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Unauthorized App Store Cydia Sues Apple for Anticompetitive Behavior
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I personally would have a problem with Apple's walled gardens if it was a monopoly but its not. Android exists and its free for all, you choose to use iOS you are not forced. There is also other options + there is nothing stopping anyone from creating their own smartphone OS with apps they are just too lazy.
Nothing stopping Microsoft, Sony, Samsung, Huawei, Facebook, Oracle, Amazon...etc to build their own OS, they have the money and resources.
You are free to (attempt to) mod your car. The manufacturer isn’t obligated to make it any easier for you to do so though.
All posts that consist only of an image get deleted. It was not content judgement.
Really??? You are going to talk about my statement saying Apple forces developers to go through them as being completely literal while talking about proverbial guns???
Yep. I'm an ex-dev. Whether a dev chooses to sign up or not is the devs' business model. IOS is a walled garden, a dev has to make a choice to be in that ecosystem. Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
I'm not sure your analogy is a good reply to what I said. And my reply was meant more for those claiming that Cydia just wants to leech the good idea and invention of Apple with their AppStore, I'm guessing because lots of people are ignorant to what Cydia was and how it opened new opportunities back then.
I'm not saying that a digital storefront is copyrightable or that we should have eternal gratitude for Cydia. But I don't think it's fair for them to be accused that they have no merits, when again, lots of tweaks which are now included in iOS were in Cydia first.
I am a dev... and for most people the choice is you are in that ecosystem or you don’t have a business.
You can release the app on Android. I know many businesses that have their apps only on Android, and that is how their business is run.
Have a good read....
First 3 lines when you setup your iPhone/ iPad for the first time:
”IMPORTANT: BY USING YOUR iPHONE, iPAD OR iPOD TOUCH (“DEVICE”), YOU ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE FOLLOWING TERMS:”
Paragraph 1:
”whether in read only memory, on any other media or in any other form (the Original Apple Software and Apple Software Updates are collectively referred to as the “Apple Software”) are licensed, not sold, to you by Apple Inc. (“Apple”) for use only under the terms of this License.”
It goes on but that’s the crux of it.
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Don't we see discussions here frequently that Apple does not innovate anymore, that other devices are a lot more advanced, that SamHuaMi is bringing this in-any-way better phone to market at half the price of an iPhone?
Personally I think for a majority of buyers the iOS is as much a factor in the buying decision as the hardware itself.
Also, if geeks around the world can deploy Linux on almost every device out there, why is it that there is no port to a jailbroken iPhone?
Nor should they. Apple is not the type of business that builds machines as an OEM and then bundles other's OS, like it is prevalent in the PC world, or even with Android. Apple's USP is this "we control the whole widget" thing. Now even going down to the processors in their Macs.
Since people around here like analogies so much, it would be like requiring Ford to make it possible to allow installation of a different manufacturer's engine in their cars.
Right.
I'm just saying the other person's point that people could write their own OS is kinda moot when that OS cannot be installed (without a jailbreak or Apple's blessing).
You are free to go ahead and try.
As has been stated above, Apple is under no obligation to go out of their way to make it easy for you to do so.
And ? They could make their own hardware too, y'know .. like Apple did.
Oh wait, a couple of them did try that
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Ok. Then you should be able to produce several examples of how the ability to side load apps in Android has led many major developers to pull their apps from Google Play.
As in, if all you can come up with is Fortnite, then....
Sure, but in practice, having more than two software platforms is hardly tenable. Few software companies are going to write their app for a third platform.
On iOS and the App Store this has not happened for obvious reasons, but just look at the discussion about the new "nutrition labels". It's not so far fetched that eg Facebook would at least try to ditch the App Store for other distribution means if that would mean less scrutiny for their tracking habits.
Well thats an issue for the imaginary Phone/OS manufacture to to deal with. If the platform is compelling enough and came with the same level of developer support as Android / Apple, there would be a market and they would write apps for it.
A company like facebook has the resources to make their own device happen, but prefer to moan about others locking down their OS.
Time for someone like Epic to put its money where its mouth is and release a device with the Cydia Appstore installed as an alternative to iOS and see how well it does.
Thing is that no-one wants to, they just want a free ride on the coat-tails of Apples' Successes.
I was responding to your statement that "If Apple allowed other app stores and opened up a means for third party software to install apps, you wouldn't be able to pirate on Cydia".
I'm an App Developer with a paid app on the Apple App Store since 2007. It was heavily pirated during the Cydia/Jailbreak times. Cydia didn't do anything to stop pirating from happening. I have no reason to believe that Cydia as an 'official 3rd-party store' in any way would actively prevent or fight pirating. That's why I asked if you were kidding cause I can't take that serious.
Understood. Nowhere do I see that I have agreed that the device is "managed".
Yes. Exactly. See below:
That's my point, generally speaking, though it's getting around to it in a weird way.
That approval process for XBL or PSN is MUCH harder than Apple's for the App Store, which is why Apple's "Oh, we don't allow other App Stores because they wouldn't be as high quality" is a bunk argument. They're already the 2nd lowest bar, just ahead of Google Play.
The additional approval process for xCloud is even higher.
Apple is abusing their position.
So don't buy an iPhone?! Buy Sony, LG, Samsung, Huawei, Oppo, Blackberry, Motorola, Google..etc