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Unauthorized App Store Cydia Sues Apple for Anticompetitive Behavior
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- Running unsigned apps without having them tethered to a disposable Apple Developer Account.
- Use older versions of existing apps, assuming you’ve retained the .ipa.
- Old Music.app without the AM tabs and other visual regressions if you’re not an AM subscriber.
- Old Fantastical.app is nice, for example.
- Location spoofing.
- Fortnite.app (probably)
- Recording phone conversations.
- Universal Picture-in-Picture.
- Removal of the ‘Widgetsmith’ NSLabel from widgets.
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iPhone isn't a market it a single device in a Market.
I'm not going to read the entire thread to see how many times you've already been corrected on this point, but Cydia didn't specifically allow the installation of pirated software. You are probably confusing it with other services. Cydia was an unofficial app store, that allowed users to install software unapproved-of by Apple. For example, you could install an actually useful WiFi Analyzer tool, which was very handy, or you could install a different UI. Pirated software is illegally copied software. So an entirely, completely, utterly, different thing.
But you are correct, it is a shame that people can't install software from sources other than Apple.
The only person that can do that to your phone is you lol. It's not like Cydia is going to be magically installed on your phone.
so? doesnt mean things cannot be regulated. super random example. Just because you own an airport, doesn’t mean you can let planes depart and land whenever you want to make more business
It’s my phone. What do you not understand?
Is correct to think that Apple don’t have a monopoly? They do have control over their devices, anyone with an Xbox or PS# ... can anyone develop a game without MS or Sony approval? .... on the other hand we are able to instal any type of software on our macs, why not in our phones?
I can only imagine the level of outrage if Microsoft tried locking down Windows in a similar manner. So I don't agree with your logic there.
MacOS isn't locked to the Mac App Store. Why would iOS need to be? It's only because Apple wants the control.
Cydia can build their phone too and have their App Store
"Freeman claims that the risks of jailbreaking are "overblown" and are similar to downloading software from a PC. "Morally speaking, it's your phone and you should be able to do whatever you want with it," he said. The lawsuit claims that Apple used "coercive" terms to prevent customers from using Cydia, and as security ramped up, Cydia's business waned."
Yeah, well I wouldn't download software to a PC (if I had one) or any Mac I had either unless.
a) I trusted the software, it's developer and the delivery mechanism (see, that's the main thing a store gives you as a user).
b) It was open source stuff that I work with and can build it myself from code that I can see.
Software outside of a strict framework makes policy control etc. pretty near impossible unless you get into that grey area of making it optional or mandatory via profile for corporate requirements.
Yeah, well I wouldn't download software to a PC (if I had one) or any Mac I had either unless.
a) I trusted the software, it's developer and the delivery mechanism (see, that's the main thing a store gives you as a user).
b) It was open source stuff that I work with and can build it myself from code that I can see.
Software outside of a strict framework makes policy control etc. pretty near impossible unless you get into that grey area of making it optional or mandatory via profile for corporate requirements.
It's YOUR device. This would be like Ford telling you what you can and cannot put in, or on, your car. Sure, it's Ford's "platform" but......
Well haven’t needed or wanted to jailbreak for years, as everything eventually started to roll out on iOS natively, so I guess they are trying to stay relevant
wait till apple hears what users can do on macOS. they should really lock it down to just App Store-only apps to reduce piracy.
Can't these developer just write the stuff to run on Android and users that want this stuff buy Androids? It's not like iPhone is the only phone on the market.
Back in 2008, Jay Freeman first released Cydia as an app store designed for the iPhone, offering apps a few months before Apple had its own App Store. Since then, Cydia has served as an app repository for jailbroken iPhones and iPads, making it easy to install unauthorized software on compatible devices.
Now Cydia is joining a growing cadre of developers accusing Apple of anticompetitive behavior, reports The Washington Post. Cydia on Thursday sued Apple, accusing the company of using anticompetitive tactics to "nearly destroy Cydia" ahead of the App Store launch, which Cydia's lawyers say has a monopoly over software distribution on iOS devices.
According to Cydia, if Apple did not have an "illegal monopoly" over iOS app distribution, users would be able to choose "how and where to locate and obtain iOS apps," and developers would also have alternate distribution methods.
Apple spokesperson Fred Sainz told The Washington Post that Apple will review the lawsuit and that Apple is not a monopoly because it faces competition from Android. Apple also must maintain control over the way software is installed on the iPhone to prevent customers from accidentally downloading viruses and malware, which iPhones would be more susceptible to with a third-party App Store.
The App Store is the only authorized way to install apps on an iPhone or iPad, with more than 1.8 million apps available worldwide. Over 28 million developers around the world use the App Store to distribute apps, and Apple earns somewhere around $15 billion in revenue from the App Store each year. Apple has a dedicated App Store review team that reviews every app submitted to the store, along with guidelines that developers have to follow.
Before the App Store, though, there was Cydia. Jay Freeman told The Washington Post that he developed Cydia as a way to make it easy for customers to jailbreak their iPhones and install new software to support features created by developers who wanted to make apps and new functions for the original iPhone.
According to his estimations, more than half of early iPhone customers were jailbreaking their iPhones to use Cydia, and in 2010, 4.5 million people were searching for apps weekly. By then, Apple had come out with its own App Store and started making it harder to jailbreak new iPhones, and over the years, also added features that were previously only available through Cydia, such as the Control Center.
Freeman claims that the risks of jailbreaking are "overblown" and are similar to downloading software from a PC. "Morally speaking, it's your phone and you should be able to do whatever you want with it," he said. The lawsuit claims that Apple used "coercive" terms to prevent customers from using Cydia, and as security ramped up, Cydia's business waned.
Cydia lawyer Stephen Swedlow says that the "legal climate" has been changing, which makes it the ideal time to file against Apple. Cydia is the "perfect claimant" for an antitrust case given that it has an app store that's an alternative to Apple's own offering. If the suit is successful, Cydia plans to once again compete with Apple, but without the need for jailbreaking.
Article Link: Unauthorized App Store Cydia Sues Apple for Anticompetitive Behavior
Apple does allow competition in its App Store. You can install several mail apps or browsers or Plex, VLC, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, etc.
Interesting, there was that lawsuit that ruled jailbreaking an iPhone was legal about a decade ago. Additionally, Apple routinely tries to patch out jailbreaking with software updates, which could be evidence of anti-competitive practices. Not to mention that Cydia was the first app store... this may be a stronger case than Epic’s case. It amazes me that Apple keeps citing security concerns though when a Mac can download apps from a browser, thus potentially meaning that they see the Mac as more secure than an iPhone.
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If you want a phone that lets you install apps from anywhere, you should have bought a different phone. What do you not understand?
Right but what about the slim chance that this gets traction? All of a sudden my iPhone is open to other app stores. Which means more ways for malicious individuals to get crapware on my phone. Why do you think countries built walls around their cities and castles since the beginning of time? To keep out what you don’t want in. Was that unfair for the enemy? Sure, maybe. But I’d take that safety any day.
Regardless of where you acquire the games, the PS4 or Xbox is still a walled garden. It wont run things that aren't blessed by Sony/MS.
The only way to get junk on your phone, PC or Mac is you, the user. If Cydia was an alternative store for iOS software, no one is compelled to use it even if there was little likelihood that the software on their platform was any less secure, it would probably be the exact same software in any event. Do you really believe all of the software on the app store is born of heavenly angels and is entirely harmless?
There is an option. Just don't get an iPhone.
I can agree with you, but also iPhones have arguably more sensitive data on them. Apple wallet, health data, etc etc. I can see why it’s more strict.