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Go to an authorized service provider. Problem solved. Next first-world problem...
[doublepost=1523487022][/doublepost]People need to understand Apple’s point of view. They need to control the user experience to get good customer satisfaction. If they lose control of the experience, and any random shop can repair a phone with unauthorized components installed by people without any standardized training, then when issues pop up they’ll assume it’s the phone. They won’t consider that it may have been linked to the crappy repair. So to keep satisfaction high, they want people to go to them or authorized repair places (notice it doesn’t have to be them). It’s not too much to ask.
Agreed. But instead of disabling features, Apple could simply show a pop-up (or show a persistent message in the settings) that says that the experience may have been compromised. It is then left to the customers' choice. At the moment, all it looks like is Apple is forging new territory in their existing monopolistic market. There is a line...it is my phone after all. I will get it repaired wherever I want and will bear the consequences of a 'compromised' experience.

Also, don't forget what's mentioned in the original article. Even if you swap the displays of two iPhones, the software deems the device compromised. This is not about an aftermarket spare part.

Of course...this might just be an iOS bug. We will never know unless Apple talks about it.
 
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You do know that Apple wouldn’t test their products with third-party or grey market components right? There is also a lengthy calibration process required post-repair that requires specialized tools that unauthorized repair shops cannot get and frankly have no interest in doing.

This problem affects OEM displays.

What kind of lengthy calibration is required for an ambient light sensor?

I agree the repair requires specialized tools that unauthorized repair shops cannot get. That's exactly the problem. This is not about replacing a logic board or something with a security function. The ambient light sensor doesn't work because it requires a specialized tool?

This type of activity to encourage service spending at authorized repair shops has been tried and true for oil changes on some cars. It has not been well received.
 
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The difference is that if Apple messes up your phone, Apple will fix it without any risk of voiding your warranty. If an unauthorized shop messes up your phone, you're out of luck.
Oh you are so right.
 
This problem affects OEM displays.

What kind of lengthy calibration is required for an ambient light sensor
Each replacement display is individually calibrated for the specific device in order to properly adjust color based on the environment. This practice guarantees true colors no matter what the lighting is like. If you’ve ever worked in print media you know how important a calibrated display is.
 
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Each replacement display is individually calibrated for the specific device in order to properly adjust color based on the environment. This practice guarantees true colors no matter what the lighting is like. If you’ve ever worked in print media you know how important a calibrated display is.

This calibration process certainly doesn't seem to affect the True Tone displays found on the iPad Pro. Why didn't Apple disable replacement displays back in 2015 when iPad Pro came out?
 
Patiently waiting for the lawsuits :) I’ll be loving every minute of it! There are laws and apple seems to think they are above them.

“The problem with this is that unauthorized repairs are perfectly legal. Just this week, the FTC stated that it was illegal for companies like Apple to block third-party repairers and even third-party components. Getting a cheap iPhone display installed cannot void your Apple warranty.”

https://www.cultofmac.com/540953/ios-11-also-breaks-genuine-apple-displays-on-repaired-iphones/
 
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its about time people are held accountable for their actions. using 3rd party repair means you dont get to enjoy the full immersive experience. teaches you not to be a cheap skate
 
its about time people are held accountable for their actions. using 3rd party repair means you dont get to enjoy the full immersive experience. teaches you not to be a cheap skate
What? So if your mechanic fixes your car instead of you taking it back to the dealership then you shouldn't be able to drive your car anymore? What kind of logic is that?
 
The message is clear, it’s more kaching kaching kaching for Apple basically, and it’s anti competitive and will be ruled unlawful, again, just like the disabling of the Touch ID sensor.

BUT...

You don’t want to end up in the stupid situation like with cars, where the EU declared it was anti competitive to keep manufacture diagnostics kit to main dealers or garages only, hence why any car thief can buy the kit, access your cars OBD port and easily steal it. They also ruled access to the OBD ports and the computers to third parties should be totally unrestricted.

So if Apple require special equipment to set up phone security, it’s probably best it’s kept to main dealers and Apple themselves, because the short sighted EU could rule otherwise and crime syndicates will buy and use them.
 
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Cars don’t store your fingerprints or Face ID data.
Certain parts must be matched for security.

Iphone also doesn't store those. It only stores math model of those, like triangles ratio (face recognition) and various proportions (fingerprint). There's no way to reverse-engineer neither of your unique personal attributes.

Nothing to say ambient light sensor has nothing to do with security. I've never seen such an absurd "explanations" from apple trolls before. Maybe apple has started to refresh the team with some cheaper ones..?
 
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Well, I broke my iPhone SE screen a couple of days ago and ordered a new screen from iFixit. The first one I had an issue with the light sensor. I complained them and they sent me a second replacement. And guess what? The second one also didn't work. I thought maybe the connector has some issue... and... nope, I took out the original flex cable and glued it to my new screen and the light sensor started to work again.

I went to Settings - General - Display Accommodations (uploaded a screenshot) and iOS have actually disabled the light sensor when I connect both of my 3rd party flex cable which I have it around here... The slider disappeared.

I know the article states iPhone 8, but it's funny that I have exactly the same issue with my iPhone SE...

Exactly the same with my iPhone SE! Two replacement screens from iFixit and the slider in the settings was still missing. Apple Store replaced the screen and all is well.

After the Genius replaced the screen in the store, he had to erase all content and settings to get the slider to reappear. Restarting the phone alone didn’t cause it to recognize the genuine screen.
 
I dislike that sensor anyway, the first thing I do in a new iPhone is disable that annoying sensor that makes the screen super bright at night and super dim during the day. I prefer the manual slider.
 
Facts vs Fiction

Facts
This issue effects OEM and Aftermarket screens. You can take two new iphone 8 swap the screens without damaging anything and the ALS (Ambient Light Sensor) will no longer control auto brightness. ALS has ZERO to do with security on the iPhone, its only function is to dim or brighten the screen based on Ambient light in the area.

Fiction
This has to do with Third Party companies using parts not to the standard of Apple.

This is FALSE.
The ALS can be and usually is transferred on all repairs to iPhones since the iPhone 5. Never has this been an issue before, EVER. The iPhone 8 does not have facial recognition so saying this is a security issues is just 100% false.
Even the home button error 53 argument is weak because all you have to do is look across the isle to Samsung to see that swapping a home button with finger print scanning isnt a security issue, since all Samsung devices allow this with no problems after swap. Function of the finger print works as it should. The security of finger print scanning is all stored and done in the SoC (CPU) and is "impossible" in any practical sense to hack/bypass.

When did repair of your things become a non option for owners? Why do I have to go to any store/manufacturer to have something fix if I chose not to? If I change your oil in your car and your car gets an update saying it wasnt done by the dealer should they be able to disable your engine?

I understand some out there may have had bad experiences with Third Party and that happens with every type of repair industry; but I bet I have a lot more happy customers than I do mad ones when Apple says sorry your data is gone. All those baby photos or loved ones who passed gone. Then they bring it in and I get those things back because of a faulty part in a phone easily replaced, that Apple will not replace.

Dont throw away your options for something YOU OWN because Apple tells you its in your best interest. This is true for ANY company that suggests this.
 
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I think you'll find unauthorized repairs can break all kinds of things. :)

I would never used an unauthorized 3rd party repair service. Seems like asking for trouble.

TIL unauthorized tinkering with my premium device can cause unintended and undesirable consequences.

Who knew? :eek:

Go to an authorized service provider. Problem solved. Next first-world problem...
[doublepost=1523487022][/doublepost]People need to understand Apple’s point of view. They need to control the user experience to get good customer satisfaction. If they lose control of the experience, and any random shop can repair a phone with unauthorized components installed by people without any standardized training, then when issues pop up they’ll assume it’s the phone. They won’t consider that it may have been linked to the crappy repair. So to keep satisfaction high, they want people to go to them or authorized repair places (notice it doesn’t have to be them). It’s not too much to ask.

its about time people are held accountable for their actions. using 3rd party repair means you dont get to enjoy the full immersive experience. teaches you not to be a cheap skate

It's MY phone.

It's NOT Apple's phone.

I paid for it, so it's MY phone.

Since it's my phone, Apple has no right to be disabling features just because I happened to repair the phone myself.
 
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Authorised repairs can break all kinds of things too. What's your point?

Well, to be fair, if an authorized repair breaks your device at an apple store they fix/give you a new one at no extra cost
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I would never used an unauthorized 3rd party repair service. Seems like asking for trouble.
Plus, they often use 3rd party displays that you can tell from a distance are not original
 
While we are on this topic Aren’t 3rd party batteries like the ones from ifixit unable to show battery health via settings>battery>battery health?
And as I am aware it’s not just limited to certain models.
 
You call AppleCare and mail-in your phone. If you have AppleCare +, they will cross-ship you a replacement product next day, although to be fair that 2nd part might not be true in all countries where iPhone is sold.

And what about the countries where applecare doesn't exist for the iPhone? You have to bring it to the store for warranty and usually wait about 2 weeks to get a fixed device...
 
This problem affects OEM displays.

What kind of lengthy calibration is required for an ambient light sensor?

I agree the repair requires specialized tools that unauthorized repair shops cannot get. That's exactly the problem. This is not about replacing a logic board or something with a security function. The ambient light sensor doesn't work because it requires a specialized tool?

This type of activity to encourage service spending at authorized repair shops has been tried and true for oil changes on some cars. It has not been well received.

Even if it is about security, Apple shod not disable any features. If I choose to replace my iPhone screen, Apple should not disable TouchID. I expect the risk of third party TouchID unit, Apple should not make decision for me.

This is exactly the reason I am away from iPhone. I have Android phone, never have problem with. And I know I can repair my Android phone without getting screws by manufacture.
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its about time people are held accountable for their actions. using 3rd party repair means you dont get to enjoy the full immersive experience. teaches you not to be a cheap skate

Can you provide me a reason that why 3rd party repair equals to don’t get enjoy full immersive experience? What change screen has to do with your full immersive experience? For long time, people haven been change screens without issue, why is that an exception to Apple?
 
This is a good reason why EVEYONE SHLULD GET APPLECARE+!!! $30 to fix if you break the glass on screen and $100 if it's anything else!!! And keep in mind if Apple has to replace the whole phone they give you a brand new one not a refurbished one .
 
My iPad Pro and various iPhones, including the X have never been repaired but often Auto Brightness is spotty at best. Often I’d need to manually toggle it to work. Apple must know this too, which is why they’ve hidden the setting in Accessibility.
 
I really can’t fault people for using third party repair options with some of Apple’s prices

Really?

What prices would those be? Do you speak of the $29 it costs to replace the display when one purchases AppleCare Plus?

If that is one of the prices of which you speak, then please inform me why I should feel sorry for someone that doesn't purchase protection for that nearly $1,000 computer they tote around. Should I feel sorry for someone that purchases a $30,000 automobile, wrecks it but has neglected to protect the automobile with insurance?

I really can't wait to hear about the prices that you find so objectionable.
 
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Sounds good to me!

If your BMW/Audi/VW has an ECU or cluster fault, officially only those manufactures can repair this. Granted, 3rd party companies managed to hack/crack older cars and provide tools to achieve this

In most VW/Audis if you swap the cluster, it will have whats called component protection. The car won't start or certain bits just simply won't work until it is coded/calibrated to the car using an online connection to HQ in Germany. Authorised repairers have this functionally too.

Doesn't look no different to the iPhone repairs case to me. And one that Im willing to accept.
 
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