understanding wifi...

[Michael CM1]

in regards to your last point, if the new iphone has 3G, i can send email with out a problem,

if I am in a wifi zone, i have to switch back to 3G/EDGE inorder to send mail

thats not cool....

so this wifi, lest say at my local borders is basically only going to benefit my internet surfing....and will give me mail problems (possibly)

do i have this right?

(seems like a pain in the but, if I am on wifi surfing, then want to send an email)....then again...if the powers that be (AT&T) dont want email on their network, what can i do....

even at home, on my own network, that I pay for, i will run into this email problem?

I'm pretty sure you'll have the same problem unless you use a mail provider that doesn't have it. G-mail can be setup to send from anywhere, as can .Mac (I think). You'll just have to check with your mail provider.

 

[mrJnC]

Regarding sending mail via SMTP, sometimes I encounter that port 25 has been blocked.

If you specify
Settings | Mail | selectmailaccount | Advanced | Outgoing Settings, Server Port
as 587 instead of 25, this often works and is now my default setup.

 

[corrado7]

in regards to your last point, if the new iphone has 3G, i can send email with out a problem,

if I am in a wifi zone, i have to switch back to 3G/EDGE inorder to send mail

thats not cool....

so this wifi, lest say at my local borders is basically only going to benefit my internet surfing....and will give me mail problems (possibly)

do i have this right?

(seems like a pain in the but, if I am on wifi surfing, then want to send an email)....then again...if the powers that be (AT&T) dont want email on their network, what can i do....

even at home, on my own network, that I pay for, i will run into this email problem?

Get back to the books. You are still confused

 

[infowarfare]

Let me see if I can help out more.

The iPhone now has EDGE, which is technically 2.5G and maxes out around 4x dial-up speed (about 200kbps). 3G is faster, but it's still nowhere near as fast as you can get from DSL or cable. I think right now you can probably get about 1Mbps (1,000kbps), but AT&T has talked of upgrading it to 20Mbps in the future.

WiFi is only as fast as the connection it's linked to. I would guess most businesses offering free WiFi will get you at least 768kbps. Some probably go up to 1.5Mbps or 3Mbps. But if other people are using it, you won't get the full speed of it. However, it's probably going to be faster than EDGE.

The iPhone switches between them to save network bandwidth (EDGE and 3G are limited much more than landlines) and to speed you up. You can only buy music from the phone via WiFi, and that's probably going to be the same with the App Store. I switch pretty seamlessly between EDGE and WiFi if I have already set up a connection, and sometimes when I haven't. You usually just have to put in a password once if it's a protected/secured network.

The one problem you will run into is sending mail. Some people, like BellSouth/AT&T, don't like you sending your e-mail from off their outgoing server. I basically have to send outgoing mail from that account using EDGE because I'd rather be able to send slower than have to switch crap around when I'm at home. I hope the next firmware allows you to have different server settings based on your connection. Anyway, that's the main complication you should know about.

/end brain dump/

Wow, you just couldn't leave well enough alone could you. Just sort of confused the issue for the poor kid with the whole emailing through ISPs server thing. And to top it off, a bit of wrong information as well; Steve Jobs specifically said during the SDK Event that you WILL be able to use the App Store through EDGE.

 

[saladiro]

Get back to the books. You are still confused

so please explain....

can i send emial when my iPhone is on a wifi network. I believe you quoted

"The one problem you will run into is sending mail. Some people, like BellSouth/AT&T, don't like you sending your e-mail from off their outgoing server. I basically have to send outgoing mail from that account using EDGE because I'd rather be able to send slower than have to switch crap around when I'm at home. I hope the next firmware allows you to have different server settings based on your connection. Anyway, that's the main complication you should know about."

am I interpreting this wrong?

pls spare me some time, so i dont have to go back to the books....

 

[7on]

so please explain....

can i send emial when my iPhone is on a wifi network. I believe you quoted

"The one problem you will run into is sending mail. Some people, like BellSouth/AT&T, don't like you sending your e-mail from off their outgoing server. I basically have to send outgoing mail from that account using EDGE because I'd rather be able to send slower than have to switch crap around when I'm at home. I hope the next firmware allows you to have different server settings based on your connection. Anyway, that's the main complication you should know about."

am I interpreting this wrong?

pls spare me some time, so i dont have to go back to the books....

You can, just some email addresses are silly. If you use GMAIL, .MAC, yahoo, etc. you should be fine. However, your comcast email won't be able to be sent from, say, a Starbucks wifi spot. You'd need to know what Internet Service Provider Starbucks uses and enter their SMTP information. The rules are the same if you carried a laptop into a Starbucks, you wouldn't be able to send out your comcast email.

I tried to explain this to my mom, but I don't think she gets it still. Look at your email address. The name that comes after the @ symbol is who you get email from. So if your email address is johnsmith@comcast.com then call Comcast and ask about the SMTP information to set up an iPhone to get mail. In this instance, the information they give you will only work on YOUR wireless router (and any wireless router that gets it's internet from comcast). You can still get email from anywhere, but sending it can be a problem. This is why I set my mom up on GMAIL, which is one of the accounts that can work anywhere. Also one of the reasons I buy .Mac.

 

[saladiro]

thank you very much for explaining, and not just stating the obvious (that i was confused).....which I am no longer...