I believe the reverse is true. People like Jobs never need people like Woz and without Jobs Woz might not be recognized at all.It’s very likely there’d be no Steve Jobs if there’d been no Steve Wozniak.
I believe the reverse is true. People like Jobs never need people like Woz and without Jobs Woz might not be recognized at all.It’s very likely there’d be no Steve Jobs if there’d been no Steve Wozniak.
Believe based on what?I believe the reverse is true. People like Jobs never need people like Woz and without Jobs Woz might not be recognized at all.
The most important one is always the one with vision. Woz just made what Jobs approved. Without Woz Jobs would find somebody else to do it, like he did with Macintosh. Without Jobs Woz would be nothing, as proven post Jobs Apple.Believe based on what?
From Wikipedia:
Around that time, Wozniak designed a low-cost digital ”blue box” to generate the necessary tones to manipulate the telephone network, allowing free long-distance calls. Jobs decided then to sell them and split the profit with Wozniak. […] Jobs later reflected that had it not been for Wozniak's blue boxes, "there wouldn't have been an Apple". He states it showed them that they could take on large companies and beat them.[…]In February 1974, Jobs returned to his parents' home in Los Altos and began looking for a job. He was soon hired by Atari, Inc. in Los Gatos, California, which gave him a job as a technician. Back in 1973, Steve Wozniak designed his own version of the classic video game Pong and gave the board to Jobs. According to Wozniak, Atari only hired Jobs because he took the board down to the company, and they thought that he had built it himself.[…]In mid-1975, after returning to Atari, Jobs was assigned to create a circuit board for the arcade video game Breakout. According to Bushnell, Atari offered US$100 for each TTL chip that was eliminated in the machine. Jobs had little specialized knowledge of circuit board design and made a deal with Wozniak to split the fee evenly between them if Wozniak could minimize the number of chips. Much to the amazement of Atari engineers, Wozniak reduced the TTL count to 46, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line. According to Wozniak, Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the $5,000 paid out), and that Wozniak's share was thus $350.[…]By March 1976, Wozniak completed the basic design of the Apple I computer and showed it to Jobs, who suggested that they sell it; Wozniak was at first skeptical of the idea but later agreed. In April of that same year, Jobs, Wozniak, and administrative overseer Ronald Wayne founded Apple Computer Company.[…]In April 1977, Jobs and Wozniak introduced the Apple II at the West Coast Computer Faire. It is the first consumer product to have been sold by Apple Computer. Primarily designed by Wozniak, Jobs oversaw the development of its unusual case and Rod Holt developed the unique power supply.[…]Once he joined the original Macintosh team, Jobs took over the project after Wozniak had experienced a traumatic airplane accident and temporarily left the company.
Woz was Jobs’ meal ticket all along. I know this whole cult has formed around Saint Jobs, and he clearly had remarkable abilities, but I’m not sure we’d ever have seen it if Woz wasn’t there.
Then Woz took his fortune and taught elementary school for a decade.
Give the man the respect he’s due.
I wish I would’ve known about this.Fun reminder that Wozniak joined up with Gil Amelio and Ellen Hancock to form Acquicor, a blank check company.
It failed. Badly. Hundreds of millions were lost.
I'm sure this will go well.
I think heaps of people care about Woz. I do. He engenders affection far beyond his contemporaries.
Which only demonstrates how important Steve Jobs wasEverything Wozniak has done since 1982 has been terrible.
Which only demonstrates how important Steve Jobs was
It was the burn down charts, he would receive emails (or bulletin message or whatever was at that time) about the project’s current burn rate and the ideal rate with the two projected diverging slopes increasing in gap with warning signs and skull emoticons all over the place.It is a shame he didn't keep working at Apple doing new things. Maybe it was just the business / politics part took away the fun of creating new things. For example, company stuff like TPS reports and entering how many hours put in for projects, and dealing with project managers that ask "When are you going to have that done?".
Dorsey on the biggest loser would be a really good move, if the show were not focused on weight loss but on personality and moral worth.Woz on a venture capital reality show is like having Jobs on a hackathon reality show. Talk about a mirror image universe! What's next, Bill Gates judging Project Runway? Jack Dorsey on The Biggest Loser? Sheryl Sandberg starring in a remake of Here Comes Honey Boo Boo?
Hold up - is this satire?This is too much disrespect for Wozniak. This guy is literally a human history famous person, the history books will remember him as the guy(or one of the guys) that created the personal computers and the first company in history to hit $1T and $2T in valuation. No Woz, no Apple.
He will be remembered just as we remember Aristotle, Newton, and Edison.
The most important one is always the one with vision. Woz just made what Jobs approved. Without Woz Jobs would find somebody else to do it, like he did with Macintosh. Without Jobs Woz would be nothing, as proven post Jobs Apple.
Yes, Woz was a competent engineer but Apple wouldn't be Apple without Jobs. There's a reason Jobs died being a leader of the most influential tech company in the world and Woz participate in a TV show that couldn't find distribution.
"Horrific" is the word that came to (my) mind.This sounds terrible. But maybe it's just me.
Hold up - is this satire?
He will be as remembered as one of the greatest mathematicians and philosophers to ever live, Aristotle?
He will be as remembered as the inventor of Calculus, Newton?
He will be as remembered as the popularizer of electricity and inventor of the lightbulb, Edison?
The guy made two very good computers and made lots of money before leaving a company. Let’s not let rhetoric get the best of us. This show looks terrible and is a strange take for a guy who, by all accounts, cannot stomach stuff like this.
Absolutely. Woz was the genius that Made it Go and did brilliant things. His importance cannot be understated, without Woz there would be no Apple I, Apple ][ (which supported the whole company while the III and Lisa lost money and the Mac took a long time to get traction), no 5.25" floppy drives (massive improvement over cassette tape). There would be no Apple without him.I love seeing Woz in the spotlight getting the recognition he so richly deserves. He single-handedly invented the personal computer as we know it. He deserves, at the bare minimum, just as much recognition as Steve Jobs.
Without Woz, Jobs lost his company and spent a decade in the wilderness. NeXT wasn't a juggernaut of the computer industry, it was on the verge of failing.
Do you think Jobs would have found the people he did for the Mac if Apple didn’t already have the reputation it did based on Woz’s earlier work? If the ongoing profits of Woz's earlier work didn't make it possible to afford the failure of Job's Lisa and all of his delays to Macintosh? The Mac team idolized Woz.
In each case I presented above, Woz created what Woz wanted to create and Jobs found a way to exploit it. Blue box, Pong, Breakout, Apple I, Apple II.
There's no doubt Jobs had charisma, but you're seriously underselling Woz's contributions.
Uh, no, we definitely don't get an equal chance at investing in these companies. If they're still private, that means only accredited investors can invest in them. IIRC, to be an accredited investor you are legally required to make $300K/year and/or to have $3M in assets.
Anyone can invest in a public company, but there's much stricter rules on investing in private companies. Too strict, I think... I understand that they don't want financially illiterate people to be able to waste their life savings (but then why are those same people allowed to gamble?) but it seems like this goal could be achieved with a much lower barrier to entry.
Fun reminder that Wozniak joined up with Gil Amelio and Ellen Hancock to form Acquicor, a blank check company.
It failed. Badly. Hundreds of millions were lost.
I'm sure this will go well.
Of course he will. People like SJ would find something extraordinary to do. It's like saying Elon Musk or Bozo couldn't do anything extraordinary if they don't get money from PayPal or Amazon. Guys like this will always find a way.Do you think Jobs would have found the people he did for the Mac if Apple didn’t already have the reputation it did based on Woz’s earlier work?