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This is tone deaf AF.

The Circle of Money? Really?

Good lord. No wonder no one is touching this show. :D
 
Believe based on what?

From Wikipedia:

Around that time, Wozniak designed a low-cost digital ”blue box” to generate the necessary tones to manipulate the telephone network, allowing free long-distance calls. Jobs decided then to sell them and split the profit with Wozniak. […] Jobs later reflected that had it not been for Wozniak's blue boxes, "there wouldn't have been an Apple". He states it showed them that they could take on large companies and beat them.​
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In February 1974, Jobs returned to his parents' home in Los Altos and began looking for a job. He was soon hired by Atari, Inc. in Los Gatos, California, which gave him a job as a technician. Back in 1973, Steve Wozniak designed his own version of the classic video game Pong and gave the board to Jobs. According to Wozniak, Atari only hired Jobs because he took the board down to the company, and they thought that he had built it himself.​
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In mid-1975, after returning to Atari, Jobs was assigned to create a circuit board for the arcade video game Breakout. According to Bushnell, Atari offered US$100 for each TTL chip that was eliminated in the machine. Jobs had little specialized knowledge of circuit board design and made a deal with Wozniak to split the fee evenly between them if Wozniak could minimize the number of chips. Much to the amazement of Atari engineers, Wozniak reduced the TTL count to 46, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line. According to Wozniak, Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the $5,000 paid out), and that Wozniak's share was thus $350.​
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By March 1976, Wozniak completed the basic design of the Apple I computer and showed it to Jobs, who suggested that they sell it; Wozniak was at first skeptical of the idea but later agreed. In April of that same year, Jobs, Wozniak, and administrative overseer Ronald Wayne founded Apple Computer Company.​
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In April 1977, Jobs and Wozniak introduced the Apple II at the West Coast Computer Faire. It is the first consumer product to have been sold by Apple Computer. Primarily designed by Wozniak, Jobs oversaw the development of its unusual case and Rod Holt developed the unique power supply.​
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Once he joined the original Macintosh team, Jobs took over the project after Wozniak had experienced a traumatic airplane accident and temporarily left the company.​

Woz was Jobs’ meal ticket all along. I know this whole cult has formed around Saint Jobs, and he clearly had remarkable abilities, but I’m not sure we’d ever have seen it if Woz wasn’t there.

Then Woz took his fortune and taught elementary school for a decade.

Give the man the respect he’s due.

For sure. Credit to Woz for his technical abilities in the early days of Apple.

People here can have 10 million opinions on who was the "better" Apple co-founder, or who was a greater legacy. After much thinking.... I conclude that they were equally important, but they were important for TWO distinct eras of Apple: birth phase and growth phase.

Woz was pivotal to Apple's birth and early formation.

Jobs was pivotal to Apple's growth (grooming it into the gazillion-dollar global powerhouse) and marketing success.
 
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Did you watch the episode online linked from the story? WOW THAT WAS PAINFUL TO WATCH. (Geez. I know nothing about business, and I was asking tougher questions than they were.) It consisted of each star bragging about their mediocre background, asking dumb questions, and sucking up to the contestant. SMH.
 
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While I respect Steve Wozniak for what he’s done, he’s hardly the guy to find unicorns is he, considering he wanted to give away the original Apple computers he designed for free!
 
I cannot comprehend the shots taken at Woz here. Im reading people here call him a relic, untalented, a poor investor, a coattail rider, simply lucky (right place/right time), or comparatively insignificant by a bunch of TV watchers. What a petty display of jealousy against one of the warmest, most decent and humane public facing Silicon Valley tech bros (or tech grandpas). Sad!

turn off the Tv (or TV+) and try to be more like Woz.
 
I just threw up in my mouth! Bad enough trying to get my head around the yuck concept but then to see it's being made by two of the worst companies on the planet just took it over the edge ;-)
 
Centuries ago, rich people threw us in pits and made us battle each other for the right to live. Now they throw us in circles and make us battle each other for the privilege of making them even richer. It is sad, though not entirely surprising, what passes for entertainment.
 
Oh he didn't contribute much to society, he just popularized a little thing called the personal computer. This had 0 affect on humanity as you can see/s

Woz was the one actually building the Apple machines. No Woz, no Apple, no iPod, no Macintosh, no iPhone, no iOS, no iPad. If you do not know about it already, I suggest you read on how important Wozniak to computers history you know back in the 70s when people didn't know how to type on a keyboard and still didn't own a VCR. Wozniak's first Apple I machine created a revolution in computer history.
The point I was highlighting is that those comparisons are insane. Woz did plenty but he did not invent calculus. That is like me saying the guy who invented anti-lock breaks will be remembered as fondly as Neil Armstrong because it started a safety revolution in vehicles.

Woz did great stuff with the Apple I/Apple II. Maybe there’s a hint of nostalgia in your reverence?
 
The point I was highlighting is that those comparisons are insane. Woz did plenty but he did not invent calculus. That is like me saying the guy who invented anti-lock breaks will be remembered as fondly as Neil Armstrong because it started a safety revolution in vehicles.

Woz did great stuff with the Apple I/Apple II. Maybe there’s a hint of nostalgia in your reverence?

No nostalgia, pure unbiased judgement.
I said he will be remembered like Newton I didn't say he is an equal to Newton or the importance of Newton. I will let someone else more knowledgable than me in the computers field to explain the importance of Woz work in the 70s to bring computers from being a business machine to a home machine and how that impacted humanity and what kind of ripple effect it created.

I don't know about fondly, but the guy who invested anti-lock probably saved millions of humans lives meanwhile Armstrong was just walking on a solid. Doesn't sound cool to be the first guy who walked on the moon? yes. But who did the more worthwhile work and change human lives to he better? I will take anti-lock brakes in my car for me and my family over seeing a guy walking for 5 minutes.
 
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