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... you don't want to use the term LOVE....hmm, I always thought love was an emotion...

I guess it may seem that way, but love is much more than that. People get emotionally attached to lots of things but it doesn't mean they love them, semantics aside. I despise when people describe their purchases as "I bought 'x', and I love it." Either they are tremendously shallow, if they can reduce love to something they can cast on an inert object, or else they're misusing the term. As much as I think humanity and culture has really decomposed these last few decades, I'd still like to consider the possibility that people just misuse the term "love".

The attachment that I mention is much more childlike, almost innocent. People cling to tech, specifically iDevices and other stuff that came out of Apple, like a two year-old kid hangs on to a security blanket or their favorite toy. It goes everywhere with them and its part of their life, whatever the context. A kid doesn't really need their blanket or dinosaur plush toy when they go with Mom and Dad to the Village Inn, the cineplex, or the grocery store, but the damn dinosaur is with them every step of the way. We don't need the Mac or the iPhone every-freaking-where, but its always there because we have an emotional attachment to it. It helps that there is a unity of form, an overriding design ideal that gives us continuity even when we upgrade. We simply can't get that with any other manufacturer in the tech world. Maybe Bang and Olufsen, but audio is a one trick pony compared to computers and phones, and indeed, hifi audio is getting subsumed by modeling amps and wireless speakers, once again demonstrating how much we want our computers and phones with us always.


So excuse me while I whip out my wallet to buy another Apple product to show my gratitude for Steve's hard work and innovative genius, rather than to give the money to a movie studio that doesn't give a rat's behind about Jobs' faithful customer base, because chances are this will be another movie that is telling a story of "facts" that have already been told over and over.

I've read pretty much everything out there on Steve, from Steven Levy's brilliant and engaging work through all the magazine articles and up to the latest bios. All of it was great. So are all the videos we have available, plus the first-hand stuff from his co-workers. Yet there is nothing as visceral as seeing a great actor reading a great script and directed by a very solid hand, all bringing a fresh perspective on a subject that matters greatly to the audience. I'm not saying this is that film. We may be decades away from that film. I personally responded on an emotional level to this new trailer, and if this film helps me recapture what it was like to be there in 1997, I'm going to enjoy it.
 
I actually really enjoyed Ashton Kutchers Steve Jobs movie.

You know, so did I, and I went into it expecting to hate it. It was corny at points. It was exaggerated. It was way off in terms of historical accuracy and the characters were at times pushed to cartoony limits, but... I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I wasn't glued to the screen the whole time. And damn if there aren't several moments in that movie where it feels like Ashton Kutcher is channeling Jobs (or at least the image of Steve Jobs.) It was certainly a flawed film but it succeeded in terms of entertainment and that's the bottom line.
 
I'll watch it when it's on DVD. Not in theaters. It doesn't feel genuine to me, at all. It feels WAAAAAY too Hollywood. the jOBS movie with Kutcher, though. That was surprisingly good. I felt like it really captured the early days of Apple pretty well. If only they could have made a jOBS 2 or something highlighting Apple post-iPod.
 
When I watched the Kutcher movie, I saw Steve Jobs
When I saw this trailer, I saw Fassbender.... not gonna work for me I'm afraid.

Yeah, I was thinking about seeing the movie on the big screen, but now I'll probably wait until I can download it. Only when they aged Fassbender to look like the iPod/iPhone era Steve Jobs, he begins to look more like the real Steve Jobs.
 
Tim Cook isn't a huge fan of this movie according to comments he made to Colbert.. He felt the characterization was unfair.

Oh, and Fassbender as Jobs is a fail

He said that he hasn't seen any of them of out respect that they are trying to profit at him and he sees Steve as friend and misses him dearly
 
Some people lack they ability to look beyond the physical appearance of the actor to see the character being portrayed.
So by your logic Morgan Freeman, a great actor in my opinion, would be fine portraying Steve Jobs?

The "looks don't matter" posts fail to realize Jobs was well known and is still contemporary. It's not even all about looks. In the trailer I don't see an attempt to portray the mannerisms of Jobs. Criticize him all you want but at least Ashton Kutcher worked to get that right (albeit too much). I'm not claiming Kutcher should have gotten the part in this movie, but surely they should understand most viewers remember Jobs and what he looks like.


Mike
 
So by your logic Morgan Freeman, a great actor in my opinion, would be fine portraying Steve Jobs?

The "looks don't matter" posts fail to realize Jobs was well known and is still contemporary. It's not even all about looks. In the trailer I don't see an attempt to portray the mannerisms of Jobs. Criticize him all you want but at least Ashton Kutcher worked to get that right (albeit too much). I'm not claiming Kutcher should have gotten the part in this movie, but surely they should understand most viewers remember Jobs and what he looks like.


Mike
Men have played women in theater many times before (and vice versa to a lesser degree). Doesn't happen so much in movies, but as a concept for performances (and movies are still in the realm of performances) this kind of thing isn't new nor really looked upon as some sort of a negative.
 
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