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While the depth of the movie is important too the lead character NEEDS to highly resemble Jobs or most people won't be able to relate to him or easily identify him. I've seen a few actors doing a story of a high profile person's life and they either didn't sound like that person or look like that person and it really brought down the value of the movie.

Start listing well written, well directed films that meet that criteria.
 
So what? I love my collection of Nike Sneakers (in which this company has been around long before Apple with a much larger presence) and I wouldn't feel the necessity to watch the story of the CEO's life on film. That's boring.

And as much as I get called an "Apple Apologist" around here, with no intention of saying something rude to you, I have to say that it's very ridiculous to feel love for Steve Jobs (enough to go to the theater to see a movie about him) just because he turned out some amazing products for those of us who have benefitted from owning Apple products. That's way past being a fanatic of a CEO.

Apple is successful because of it's customers. Don't make this out to be a favor Jobs has done for all of us by creating amazing phones for us to use. Call me when the top of the line iPhone is suddenly free and no service charges for cellular air time. Maybe then, WE ALL should feel grateful to Apple and Jobs. Until then....

So you put nike's impact on the world on par with apple? Seriously?
 
You haven't even seen the movie to support this actor so much. I certainly hope trailers aren't what you go by to tell the quality of a movie.

Also for me to spend my money on something it has to be far more than "Good Enough". Fine for you but I have higher standards when it comes to my money.

Lol how do you determine a movie is good enough in advance? It's not something that is possible.
 
Steve Wozniak stopped knowing Steve Jobs in 1985 and only after Apple was restored and post the iPod did Wozniak resurface to say hi once in a while.

Kate Winslet's character left NeXT early on. She was not part of Apple's return to today. Sorry, but as usual tech art never matches history.
Lol stopped knowing him? What are you talking about.
 
Looks amazing. Fassbender might not look like Jobs as much as Bale does, but he's nailed the mannerisms and way of speaking.
 
So you put nike's impact on the world on par with apple? Seriously?
No, that's not the point. My post was in response to another person's post (please read the posts leading to mine first) saying that because Jobs "Gave us" such great products we should be supporting the movie by going and watching it. As much as I loved Steve Jobs and Apple I don't "Fanboy" CEO's that way by acting as if they are doing me a favor by creating great products. As long as I have to continue to pay for them "I" (as a consumer) am the one doing the company favor by patronizing their stores.
 
Looks much more promising than the Kutcher movie, especially after I heard Woz loved it. Definitely seeing this one.
 
This will be a good movie to watch if you enjoy having the theatre all to yourself.
 
The director of Slum Dog Millionaire is hot ****. This movie has potential to be great.
 
"Steve Wozniak himself noting its accuracy to real life events."

Wozniak also said that the conversations with him that were depicted in the movie never took place. Hmmmm. Not sure what to think when Woz comments about Apple and Jobs. I'm starting to think that Cook knows Jobs better than Woz, at least what Jobs became in his final years.

Are you sure WOZ said that about THIS movie? I thought he approved of the Sorkin script.
He did pan the Ashton Kutcher movie.
 
I will gladly wait until this out on video. No way am I paying for movie theater tickets to see yet ANOTHER story about Steve Jobs. I honestly don't know why anyone cares so much about his life.
I care because he was such a fascinating person.
 
So Ashton Kutcher is a better actor than Michael Fassbender... Alrighty then.
No. I'm saying that Kutcher would have sold more tickets with the younger generation. The cast is wrong and the era they are focusing on is wrong. It should celebrate the golden years of his life.

Why should it be celebrating his life at all? It's a biopic about specific time periods in a man's life, that the writer felt would make for the most compelling story. A good story with convincing acting is all anyone should care about. And lol @ Ashton Kutcher would sell more tickets.
 
Whatever my preferences are in terms of how I spend my money are none of your concern.
Technically they aren't...but then again you are the one that shared them publicly, making them open for discussion.
 
Technically they aren't...but then again you are the one that shared them publicly, making them open for discussion.
Right but it was unnecessary for anyone to hurl an insult calling me superficial, got it? If people feel the need to lower themselves to that level then they need not concern themselves with the way I spend my money. Please don't reply, just move on.
 
Right but it was unnecessary for anyone to hurl an insult calling me superficial, got it? If people feel the need to lower themselves to that level then they need not concern themselves with the way I spend my money. Please don't reply, just move on.
Seems like the statement was not about you but about your standards when it comes to movies/theater/etc. Your original reply to my comment basically implied the same thing about my standards--you didn't literally say that my taste was more superficial, but you said that yours was a higher standard than mine, which effectively puts mine down. Seems more of a pot calling the kettle black type of situation.
 
I don't care how much Ashton Kutcher looks like Jobs , he's a bad to average actor at best, while Fassbender is a great (at his worst) to stunning actor ( at his best).
To be fair, I didn't dislike the version with Kutcher. But it was really an average tv movie. This on the other hand is at a whole different thing on every level.
Bottom line, i can't wait to see this.

Agreed. When he's given the latitude to actually act without any forced absurdity *cough*Magneto*cough*, he's among the finest actors of his generation. His performance in Hunger was one of the few in my life that brought me to tears.
 
I agree. Whilst the Ashton Kutcher movie was further away from the facts, this movie hasn't got the cast to make it a global success. Why couldn't they make the movie more about the latter years? Jobs became a superstar because of the iPod, iPhone and iPad. I would have liked to have seen the movie about how he developed and battled the critics with these products. Kids these days have no idea about the old iMacs. This is an older generation movie.

Probably because the foundation for Apple's success was based on the earlier years (nobody can deny the impact of the launch of the Mac, and later of the iMac).

They each represented the beginnings, and each defined their respective tech eras.

Having said this, the iPod/iPhone/iPad years were arguably just as important. Nobody can deny the iconic nature of these products. These were the foundation for the current generation tech era, catapulting Apple to become the biggest company in the world by market cap.

Problem with  is that there are too many iconic moments, too many iconic products to cover in a 2 hr movie.
 
They couldn't get Christian Bale.

That was the guy I wanted to see as Steve Jobs. He is one of the most driven, perfection-seeking actors around. I was thrilled when I heard he was taking the part, and I gave up on the movie when he dropped out. Allegedly it was related to "creative differences" or something like that. He probably was ready to go full Bale on the role, move in to Steve's house, start showing up to board meetings and ordering Apple employees around. We probably would have ended up with iPhones with holographic displays before the movie was in the can.

So this Fassbender guy gets cast, and I said "who?" I had heard the name but never associated him with any role. He's one of those invisible workmen, I guess. I saw the first trailer and really despaired over seeing a good Jobs movie. This trailer though, was sort of moving for me, a little emotional. Particularly when they got to the conventioners walking up with the "Welcome back!" signs. I remember that stuff vividly. How many CEOs get a comeback chance like that? How many that do, ace it?

People can't understand why so many people felt an attachment to Steve Jobs. Jobs was a truly complex character, someone who saw the world in ways a lot of us will just never be able to understand. He saw through peoples' facades and bullcrap and was able to put together the right teams to make products that had an instant emotional draw for a lot of people.

Trolls come here calling him out as a sociopath, or whatever, and you guys are pretty good at not feeding them, I respect that. A common chorus from the trolls is that Steve didn't invent anything, Apple copied, never innovated, blah blah. Anyone who thinks Steve wasn't an inventor should look past the hundreds of patents with his name on there, patents which have never been contested or disallowed for accreditation fraud (which it would be if he didn't contribute to the designs), and listen to the simple story about "Round Rects", featuring Steve and Bill Atkinson. Nothing else I've read has shown how he saw the world so perfectly, in such a simple fashion. The guy just knew how things should go together.

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.txt
 
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So what? I love my collection of Nike Sneakers (in which this company has been around long before Apple with a much larger presence) and I wouldn't feel the necessity to watch the story of the CEO's life on film. That's boring.

To be fair, Nike didn't change the world nearly as much. And the Nike CEO, or company founder, whatever, didn't make it a habit to come on stage and work a crowd like Steve.

And as much as I get called an "Apple Apologist" around here, with no intention of saying something rude to you, I have to say that it's very ridiculous to feel love for Steve Jobs (enough to go to the theater to see a movie about him) just because he turned out some amazing products for those of us who have benefitted from owning Apple products. That's way past being a fanatic of a CEO.

I'm not sure how seeing a movie about someone is feeling "love for" that person. I doubt anyone here would say they loved the guy. Its more of an emotional attachment. Watching his presentations and interviews, I always got the weirdest feeling that he understood exactly what I personally wanted out of a tech product. Those keynotes and special events sometimes felt like they were made just for me. A lot of people got that impression, I'm sure. It came from his design philosophy of paring each thing down to its essentials, and making those essentials work amazingly well, and wrapping the whole thing in a very restrained but beautiful design.

Also, consider that a lot of the Mac people - not the Apple fans, necessarily, but those of us who bought Macs and stuck by the company in the dead period between Steve's two tenures - felt somewhat vindicated when he came back and led the company out of the ICU. It was almost like a reward to us.

Apple is successful because of it's customers. Don't make this out to be a favor Jobs has done for all of us by creating amazing phones for us to use. Call me when the top of the line iPhone is suddenly free and no service charges for cellular air time. Maybe then, WE ALL should feel grateful to Apple and Jobs. Until then....

Until then, Apple will have a financial incentive to create awesome devices. If they start giving stuff away in that socialist dream you want, then their stuff will end up as interesting as a typical Bell Princess Phone circa 1976.
 
If the only thing that is stopping you from giving this film the fair judgment it deserves is due to the lead actor's physical resemblance to Jobs, then you are judging the film on the most superficial, one-dimensional aspect of real criticism.
 
Also, consider that a lot of the Mac people - not the Apple fans, necessarily, but those of us who bought Macs and stuck by the company in the dead period between Steve's two tenures - felt somewhat vindicated when he came back and led the company out of the ICU. It was almost like a reward to us.
I'm actually that exact person. But my way of showing my "emotional" attachment (since you don't want to use the term LOVE....hmm, I always thought love was an emotion. My bad) is to never jump back to the darkside called Microsoft Windows, and ever since I became a Mac user I have been exclusive since Mac OS 8. Over the many years I learned a lot about Jobs and Apple and his history with Apple. Then after his death all these low-rated movies made about him were nothing but a way to grab money from the Apple faithful because even though those movies certainly weren't Oscar-worthy the directors KNEW the Apple faithful would pay damn-near anything to see them.

So excuse me while I whip out my wallet to buy another Apple product to show my gratitude for Steve's hard work and innovative genius, rather than to give the money to a movie studio that doesn't give a rat's behind about Jobs' faithful customer base, because chances are this will be another movie that is telling a story of "facts" that have already been told over and over.

HEY SIRI!
"Yes, Henry how may I help You".
SIRI, alert me when the "Steve Jobs" movie hits the torrent sites!
"No problem Henry I will alert you"
 
If the only thing that is stopping you from giving this film the fair judgment it deserves is due to the lead actor's physical resemblance to Jobs, then you are judging the film on the most superficial, one-dimensional aspect of real criticism.


Agreed. And if my post wasn't clear, I'm going to give this movie a chance. In the shots from the last act, Fassbender seemed like he nailed the Steve-vibe. And as much as I don't like Kate Winslet, I really thought I was looking at Joanna Hoffman there, and that was weird.
 
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