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not sure you understand how iCloud works.

You buy the movie, it gets downloaded to your device/machine.
If you later want to redownload it you can in iCloud (if available).

That's still wrong. These movies have nothing to do with iCloud. They are merely 'in the cloud'. You are redownloading them from iTunes same as the original purchase. You can have or not have iCloud and you still get this redownloading.

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I think it's no longer available for sale during HBO's window, but people who have purchased it before today on iTunes can redownload it from iCloud.

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Correct. There will still be deals that will take shows out of being able to buy them for periods of time. But the redownloading is another issue.

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When is Movies in the cloud coming to the UK? it's so disappointing we always seem to get stuff much later than everywhere else.

Legalities. Same reason why you get some shows on your iTunes store before we do. Same with some movies, books etc.

it sucks but the studios are still into this regional thing. I think they should go global. Folks that will watch something on their iPad etc are often not the same group that watch on TV. But many of them have no issue with doing torrents etc because the legal sources don't have it. So give them the legal way right away

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Hopefully this negotiation also brought us closer to HBOGO for Apple TV! It's the only thing stopping me from never having to use my cable's set top box!

Nope. That is whole different world and will likely never happen. Although it should. Same with Showtime etc.

if not that then they should stop with this waiting to put things on iTunes until a month after the next season starts crap at least. And drop the freaking prices. I'm sorry but just cause you are HBO doesn't mean your show is worth 3.99 and 4.99 an episode. 2.99 is a rip unless you can get the 1080p and even then that's pushing it.
 
That's still wrong. These movies have nothing to do with iCloud. They are merely 'in the cloud'. You are redownloading them from iTunes same as the original purchase. You can have or not have iCloud and you still get this redownloading.

I think iCloud terminology is still correct. Apple uses it that way:

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

With iCloud, the music you purchase in iTunes appears automatically on all your devices. You can also download your past iTunes purchases. Where you want, when you want.
 
So, tonight I wanted to buy 3 different movies and all of whom were from Fox or MGM or someone who had the "won't be downloaded onto iCloud"

Am I just to assume that when Apple reaches deals with the companies, they WILL automatically appear?
 
So, tonight I wanted to buy 3 different movies and all of whom were from Fox or MGM or someone who had the "won't be downloaded onto iCloud"

Am I just to assume that when Apple reaches deals with the companies, they WILL automatically appear?

That's what happened with Universal's movies. They appeared retroactively.

arn
 
LOL 3,99 to rent a billion year old movie. This is why bluray wont go anywhere anytime soon. Crazy, id like to know what those studios are smoking and yet they wonder why people pirate
 
What's good about living in the UK? Things are pretty crappy right now with no jobs etc.

Well the US seems to be much further along towards becoming a police state than we are and mention of an US "free at point of sale" NHS leaves you in danger of being branded a socialist but apart from that...
 
Titan AE??

I love that film (Did you know - Joss Whedon wrote a lot of that script), but damn, that's on netflix! ;)
 
Forget it, no way. I won't buy any movie in iCloud. I buy the movie and 2 years from now when Apple and a movie studio start bickering, the studio pulls the movie from iCloud and I get screwed.

This would be true of any situation involving the cloud.

Which is why most people keep a backup of all their purchased content on one main computer and use iCloud for their other computers or mobile devices only.
 
This would be true of any situation involving the cloud.

Which is why most people keep a backup of all their purchased content on one main computer and use iCloud for their other computers or mobile devices only.

Apple is trying to push an iCloud-based Mac-less Apple ecosystem through low/no local storage devices such as ATV and iPhone/iPad. For people to have the confidence to pay sky-high prices for media, re-download is a must-have not a nice-to-have feature.
 
I wish movies would catch up to music when it comes to Internet availability.

DRM-free. Redownloadable anytime you want. Period.

Also, no idiotic lack of availability. Right now the ONLY way to watch Game of Thrones legitimately is to have an expensive as hell cable subscription. You can't even pay HBO directly to download episodes. The only other option for people unable to pay $80 for cable TV they never watch is piracy.

Really?? Come on, movie/TV industry. Fix this crap. Most people don't pirate because they're jerks; they pirate because the industry makes it hard/inconvenient/impossible to watch what you want even if you're willing to pay for it.
 
The End of Optical Disc Media

Vinyl LPs/8Trk Cassette/2Trk Cassette/LaserDisc/CDs/DVDs.......R.I.P.

You can add in physical Books & Magazines.....

No more bulky heavy players and closets full of physical media/old books/etc.

During the phase out of all physical media the concept of "ownership" will still exist as people keep their media on their private drives in digital form. This will mostly be the older folks. The younger ones will consider not having physical media...the way it has "always been". They are already trained.

Eventually everything will exist only on "cloud" servers and when we "buy" media content, it just means you will be able to stream it to any device. Devices memories will be reduced to being able to hold a movie, a song, and a book (e.g. Apple TV). And that is all. External drives will phase out as the market shrinks driving prices up. In the end they will be too expensive for the masses.

So the bulk of all devices in the future will be just media "players" with very limited storage capabilities. Machines with more storage/power for creative music/video work will become more and more expensive as demand for these types of devices shrinks along with all associated peripherals.

The net result is that media companies will once again be "in control" of their content. This is the "end game" and it is the driving force behind the "cloud".

We will be completely dependent on the servers and delivery infrastructure to be having a "good day" if we want to listen to music, watch a movie, or read a book. God forbid the power ever goes out for humanity.:eek:
 
Vinyl LPs/8Trk Cassette/2Trk Cassette/LaserDisc/CDs/DVDs.......R.I.P.

You can add in physical Books & Magazines.....

No more bulky heavy players and closets full of physical media/old books/etc.

During the phase out of all physical media the concept of "ownership" will still exist as people keep their media on their private drives in digital form. This will mostly be the older folks. The younger ones will consider not having physical media...the way it has "always been". They are already trained.

Eventually everything will exist only on "cloud" servers and when we "buy" media content, it just means you will be able to stream it to any device. Devices memories will be reduced to being able to hold a movie, a song, and a book (e.g. Apple TV). And that is all. External drives will phase out as the market shrinks driving prices up. In the end they will be too expensive for the masses.

So the bulk of all devices in the future will be just media "players" with very limited storage capabilities. Machines with more storage/power for creative music/video work will become more and more expensive as demand for these types of devices shrinks along with all associated peripherals.

The net result is that media companies will once again be "in control" of their content. This is the "end game" and it is the driving force behind the "cloud".

We will be completely dependent on the servers and delivery infrastructure to be having a "good day" if we want to listen to music, watch a movie, or read a book. God forbid the power ever goes out for humanity.:eek:

Bingo.

You've lost all control of your media, have to deal with substandard quality,
absurdly expensive contracts to access it and data caps that restrict how much you can use.

Magic. :apple:
 
Vinyl LPs/8Trk Cassette/2Trk Cassette/LaserDisc/CDs/DVDs.......R.I.P.

You can add in physical Books & Magazines.....

No more bulky heavy players and closets full of physical media/old books/etc.

During the phase out of all physical media the concept of "ownership" will still exist as people keep their media on their private drives in digital form. This will mostly be the older folks. The younger ones will consider not having physical media...the way it has "always been". They are already trained.

Eventually everything will exist only on "cloud" servers and when we "buy" media content, it just means you will be able to stream it to any device. Devices memories will be reduced to being able to hold a movie, a song, and a book (e.g. Apple TV). And that is all. External drives will phase out as the market shrinks driving prices up. In the end they will be too expensive for the masses.

So the bulk of all devices in the future will be just media "players" with very limited storage capabilities. Machines with more storage/power for creative music/video work will become more and more expensive as demand for these types of devices shrinks along with all associated peripherals.

The net result is that media companies will once again be "in control" of their content. This is the "end game" and it is the driving force behind the "cloud".

We will be completely dependent on the servers and delivery infrastructure to be having a "good day" if we want to listen to music, watch a movie, or read a book. God forbid the power ever goes out for humanity.:eek:

Sheep don't understand:eek:


Or :

3-monkeys.jpg
 
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Bingo.

You've lost all control of your media, have to deal with substandard quality,
absurdly expensive contracts to access it and data caps that restrict how much you can use.

Magic. :apple:
If you don't know how to control your media it should cost you extra. There has always been a tax on being lazy and stupid. Perhaps you think it suddenly shouldn't apply here.
 
If a movie is over 5 years old it should be .99

I'm probably like a lot of people. There are a small number of series I am willing to buy when they come out. Many others I will wait until they are on sale, or just gone down in price as they are older titles.

This doesn't happen on download. And because I am unlikely to end up with a library of titles, I use a format where I will. That is currently Blu-Ray, and I still have quite a few DVDs, which was my library of choice before that.
 
Well, then by all means buy it on bluray! No one is forcing you to purchase your movies from Apple.

Which is what I do... obviously. I never insinuated that anyone was being forced. I was merely pronouncing my discontent with how stupid licensing is in this day and age. This is a forum. I am allowed to do that. Thanks.
 
Vinyl LPs/8Trk Cassette/2Trk Cassette/LaserDisc/CDs/DVDs.......R.I.P.

You can add in physical Books & Magazines.....

No more bulky heavy players and closets full of physical media/old books/etc.

During the phase out of all physical media the concept of "ownership" will still exist as people keep their media on their private drives in digital form. This will mostly be the older folks. The younger ones will consider not having physical media...the way it has "always been". They are already trained.

Eventually everything will exist only on "cloud" servers and when we "buy" media content, it just means you will be able to stream it to any device. Devices memories will be reduced to being able to hold a movie, a song, and a book (e.g. Apple TV). And that is all. External drives will phase out as the market shrinks driving prices up. In the end they will be too expensive for the masses.

So the bulk of all devices in the future will be just media "players" with very limited storage capabilities. Machines with more storage/power for creative music/video work will become more and more expensive as demand for these types of devices shrinks along with all associated peripherals.

The net result is that media companies will once again be "in control" of their content. This is the "end game" and it is the driving force behind the "cloud".

We will be completely dependent on the servers and delivery infrastructure to be having a "good day" if we want to listen to music, watch a movie, or read a book. God forbid the power ever goes out for humanity.:eek:

the reason i buy movies and the tv shows in the first place is that i have those "bulky" cases and limited editions that i can place in my shelves, the same accounts for books. if i want a stupid overpaid drm protected file in low quality on a harddrive somewhere, i WOULD (not that i actually do) just pirate ...

physical media isnt going anywhere anytime soon unless those studios learn which they dont. dont get me started on this new "amazing" Ultraviolet BS. and no i'm not a old guy stuck in the past, i'm only 23.

ironically i dont know a single young person who even once used iTunes to buy a movie unless it came free as a digital copy (thats just my own experience of course)
 
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