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Unlimited Data Subscribers: What apps are you using more now that you have LTE?
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I watched the presidential debate in the CNN app. That was probably 2GB right there. I'm up to about 5.5GB for this month (my bill cycle starts roughly at the beginning of each calendar month).
I may hit 15GB this month.
I may hit 15GB this month.
ABSOLUTELY NOT using streaming apps on LTE, are you nuts?
Why not?
I've been streaming podcasts and I use iCloud. Before I synced podcasts to local storage.
People who gripe about unlimited data users are just bitter and jealous. As if they didn't know this thread's target audience before clicking on it?
I tether to my laptop because it's faster than my home connection. I mostly use it to watch videos online, surf, and do speed tests.
You don't know how Verizon's LTE works. I am going to educate you so pay attention.
Verizon's LTE network is on the 700MHz C-Block spectrum (they bought this a few years ago).
There are stipulations to this spectrum--Verizon must keep it "open" as defined by the FCC.
They can't block 3rd party tethering apps, can't throttle, etc. In fact, the FCC fined Verizon $1.25 million for such violations. They throttle the top 5% of users on 3G (not part of the 700MHz C-Block spectrum), which is irrelevant to this thread.
Here's an excerpt:
(c)(1)... The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network. 47 CFR §27.16
The full document is found here:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2010-title47-vol2/pdf/CFR-2010-title47-vol2-sec27-16.pdf
I tether to my laptop because it's faster than my home connection. I mostly use it to watch videos online, surf, and do speed tests.
You don't know how Verizon's LTE works. I am going to educate you so pay attention.
Verizon's LTE network is on the 700MHz C-Block spectrum (they bought this a few years ago).
There are stipulations to this spectrum--Verizon must keep it "open" as defined by the FCC.
They can't block 3rd party tethering apps, can't throttle, etc. In fact, the FCC fined Verizon $1.25 million for such violations. They throttle the top 5% of users on 3G (not part of the 700MHz C-Block spectrum), which is irrelevant to this thread.
Here's an excerpt:
(c)(1)... The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network. 47 CFR §27.16
The full document is found here:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2010-title47-vol2/pdf/CFR-2010-title47-vol2-sec27-16.pdf
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Genius - I salute you, sir! Thanks for posting such valuable information - did not know this! Awesome!
PS, a new app: Photon browser with Flash - using to stream sporting events today :-D
PS, a new app: Photon browser with Flash - using to stream sporting events today :-D
uTorrent has a web interface. So does Transmission. You can also jailbreak and download torrents directly.
Enjoy your poor copy of the iPhone though. Since you obviously know little about the iPhone you should be happy with Android.
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Try it on a iPad, especially a retina display iPad. Pretty nice.
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The carriers certainly don't operate under a free market. They operate under a market they created by bribing, I mean giving campaign contributions, to politicians who passed laws favorable to them. Pretty much as the rest of corporate america has done.
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They can't throttle LTE as someone has already mentioned. Very few people go overboard on bandwidth anyway. That's just carrier hype to justify raising costs. Same thing the cable companies do.
Somehow the US is the only advanced country that has such low bandwidth at such high cost.
And things like this are why throttling is coming to a Verizon phone near you. I'm still waiting for a reasonable reason why you need to torrent onto a phone.
While this is true, it's still going to lead to throttling. When unlimited data was first created tethering was not even a thought. Unlimited data was thought to be data that would be only consumed on the phone. Not connected to a computer and used as a primary internet connection.
When us on unlimited start consistently using massive amounts of data they will throttle just like AT&T. I'm surprised they haven't already done so, not like you really have an alternative until Sprint gets a wide LTE network.
Hmm, I never knew this and am now jealous that my unlimited data plan is on AT&T. Can you elaborate further?
Why do these rules only apply to that spectrum? Is AT&T allowed to do whatever they want to my LTE access while Verizon isn't? Any legal workarounds for us AT&T unlimiters?
AT&T's LTE network operates on a different spectrum so the aforementioned stipulations do not apply to them--that's why they can throttle users.
The 700MHz C-Block spectrum was used for analog TV in the past; after the switch to digital it was freed up for other uses.
How did "open access" get added to the final equation? Well, we have Google to thank for that. When the spectrum was up for auction, Google guaranteed a minimum bid of $4.6 billion. Google requested certain policies: open applications, open devices, open services, open networks as part of its bid.
When Google was outbid past the $4.6 billion amount, it triggered the open platform restrictions that Google had requested, meaning the winner of the auction now has to agree by those terms. You could say that these restrictions were part of Google's $4.6 billion bid. To beat that bid, the next bidder would have to agree to those terms and whatever amount that's over $4.6 billion.
In the end, the FCC only kept 2 of the requirements: open applications and open devices. Verizon filed a lawsuit against the FCC to get these restrictions removed. Is anyone surprised by this?
boomhower: You said what I wrote made sense, but you said this will still lead to throttling. I don't think you understand what stipulations and FCC regulations mean--companies don't just abide by them because they want to or they're doing it to be nice. Then later they can decide to start violating them because it's hurting their profits or causing a burden on their network. It just doesn't work that way.
There's a reason the FCC fined Verizon $1.25M.
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I didn't know "5GB data cap and you get throttled" was unlimited. There's still a limit it's just higher now because of LTE.
3G - 3GB
LTE - 5GB
3G - 3GB
LTE - 5GB