Unreleased iMac With 10-Core Comet Lake-S Chip and Radeon Pro 5300 GPU Shows Up in Geekbench

[MikhailT]

Announces Apple chips... releases new Intel Macs.
Organized /s

Apple were very clear in the same keynote that new Intel Macs are still coming in the next few years and the follow-up public interviews as well.

AMD Radeon Pro 5300 as RDNA1?! Are you kidding me? RDNA2 is just about to launch, what's up with them to always make sure for the iMac to be behind in GPU. The only worthwhile reason for them to update the iMac so late would be Big Navi and they gonna pull this again? 🙄

These iMac designs were finalized several months ago, RNDA2 wasn't a thing then and we don't know for sure which RNDA2 GPUs (it may be desktop/console only and mobile style next year instead) are coming out later this year. Apple isn't going to take a risk of any potential RNDA2 delays and ship with current latest tech they can get at their scale.

iMac has always used the weaker GPUs, this is nothing new.

 

[jasenwar]

Announces Apple chips... releases new Intel Macs.
Organized /s

so you'd rather them not slowly phase out....
they even mentioned at WWDC they were still releasing intel Macs

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

One of the worst things you could do right now: buy a new Mac

You really think the initial Apple Silicon-based Macs will be faster than a 10-core/20-thread Intel i9?

 

[Seanm87]

What honestly is the point of still releasing intel Macs now?

 

[now i see it]

Wonder how many of them they're gunna sell.
I remember way back in the 90's shopping for my first Mac and it was right before the first PowerPC CPUs were to become available in the next Macs.
The vibe in the stores (no Apple Stores back then) was "now isn't a good time to buy a computer".
I heeded to their advice and as it turned out, the salesmen were right—the Power PC chips blew the doors off the old 68040 things.
I wonder if the ARM chips will do the same to Intel's offerings

 

[Rychiar]

Nice chip.
$3K+?



Looks like you never used any of them to the limit cause the updates were substantial.

I use them for graphic design like most people. Right now I'm using then for vehicle wrap design which are about the biggest photoshop files ya could work with and I process photos from a 47mp camera... I'm just not blown away no matter how much I max out the machine's specs. Currently running the best 2019 I9 at work and a 2017 I7 at home

 

[cmaier]

How so? It'll be supported for years to come. it'll run all the current apps. It'll run Win x64.

What's the downside?

One downside would be that within a few years most new software may only be released on Arm, and new OS updates may omit desirable features from Intel machines and may not have feature parity. So depending on how long you intend to keep the machine, and your specific software needs/roadmap for that software, may or may not make sense to buy now.

 

[NickName99]

You really think the initial Apple Silicon-based Macs will be faster than a 10-core/20-thread Intel i9?

I do. Definitely faster at single core, and rumors point to a 12-core Apple processor.

 

[hsotnicam8002]

About damn time. My tangerine G3 iMac starts showing its age.

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I had lots of those in different colours in the offices for my business some years ago. Everyone loved using them ... except for the mouse. (Who designed that rubbish mouse?). They really brightened up the vibe. Mind you, the interfacing with instruments was pretty poor then so I had to use PCs in my labs.

 

[jetjaguar]

If you need a computer NOW then this is your only option .. I doubt we will see a 27" AS imac in the next year

 

[fokmik]

it was already discussed...its something wrong since the cpu is for the 27" imac and the dGpu is for the smaller imac

 

[DeepIn2U]

Hey @MitchelBrossard you have a typo in the article I think.

Given the shared specifications, the Core i9-10910 should slot right in between the Core i9-10900K and Core i9-10910.

So the i9-10910 slots in right between the 10900K and itself?

 

[Atarikid]

I'm waiting for apple silicon. my last 3 intel iMacs 2013, 2017, 2019 really haven't impressed me in speed boost from one to the next

Then you are in for a huge disappointment.
We have compiled FFmpeg for ARM and did run on the latest iPadPro. Encoding a 2h 4K movie to HEVC did take +2hours. On an Intel i7 (not the fastest) it took less than 20minutes.
The fastest ARM CPU is still way slower compared to a mediocre Intel.
Basically this means Apple silicon will be good for basic things as long it does not need heave pure CPU power. Ofcourse the Metal APIs will use the GPU too, still in general use it will be a lot slower.

 

[SpringKid]

How so? It'll be supported for years to come. it'll run all the current apps. It'll run Win x64.

What's the downside?

Another downside not mentioned: resell value in a couple of years of an Intel iMac bought today will obviously be lower due to the switch to ARM.

 

[smulji]

Apple were very clear in the same keynote that new Intel Macs are still coming in the next few years

Actually, what Tim Cook said is that Apple has more Intel Macs in the pipeline and that macOS will support Intel-based Macs for years to come.

 

[Art Mark]

It's a tough situation. I use my iMac daily for work. I am ready for a new machine. But I am not sure I want to spend 4 or 6 grand on a new iMac Pro or built out 27 inch, and have Apple Silicon in a year completely move beyond it...ugh. This was going to be the year I bought a new machine. But now...Ugh...

 

[AppleMad98004]

My guess is Intel based iMac retain current design and the Apple Silicon ones will have the new design to differentiate the models. That seems a likely Apple thing to do. I seriously doubt the Intel and Apple Silicon models will look the same.

 

[dragoon2745]

AMD Radeon Pro 5300 as RDNA1?! Are you kidding me? RDNA2 is just about to launch, what's up with them to always make sure for the iMac to be behind in GPU. The only worthwhile reason for them to update the iMac so late would be Big Navi and they gonna pull this again? 🙄

Agreed - I wanted Big Navi not Little Navi 😂

 

[russell_314]

Announces Apple chips... releases new Intel Macs.
Organized /s

I'm guessing you didn't watch the WWDC event where Apple said they would release new Intel Macs

 

[JPack]

If Apple is putting out a machine like this now, I feel like it has to bode well for Intel support even after the ARM transition is complete.

Or maybe they're just putting out a beast machine that their ARM iMac will demolish, just to prove a point 🤣

Apple launched a bunch of new PowerBooks and Power Macs months after their Intel announcement in 2005.

Those buyers still remember and feel the pain today.

 

[aknabi]

Well those numbers should come close to the entry model, ultra-portable MacBook using Apple Silicon coming soon /s

 

[mindquest]

If you need a computer NOW then this is your only option .. I doubt we will see a 27" AS imac in the next year

This is my feeling as well! A 27" AS iMac is not coming anytime soon. Sure maybe laptops and a 24" iMac. Q2 maybe but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

 

[cocoua]

Nice chip.
$3K+?



Looks like you never used any of them to the limit cause the updates were substantial.

3D and video editor, I disagree, when you spent 4kUSD in a computer 5 years after the other and the renders are just something faster, but not a lot.

raw performance has advanced just a bit every year, current improvements are more in the multi core/thread area, but many many programs relay in speed, as they uses cores for independent task as audio, video, etc, but speed hadn't improve almost anything in the last years.

you have some other tecs that had an awesome improvemente, as GPUs, Thunderbolt, SSD, maybe RAM... but CPUS?

no way

 

[FrankySavvy]

I think Apple introduces a redesign with the Intel models to get consumers to buy a shiny new design, then switches to Apple Silicon late this year, early next.

 

[mdgm]

The updated machine is expected to feature a T2 chip for security and controller functions

I hope not. It would be sad for there to no longer be replaceable storage in the iMac. However, I hoped the rumours of a transition to ARM were wrong too.