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This could be cool for college students who live on a wifi campus. I go to Drexel and we have WIFI everywhere, so its a waste of 20 dollars. I'm a commuter and love having EDGE on T-Mobile to watch youtube on the train.
 
I must admit, and I've never said one negative thing about my iPhone on these boards, Edge seems worse the more I use it. It really seems like the biggest drawback of this phone. This opinion comes five months after being thrilled with just about all the iPhone's other features.

Sometimes, as I'm waiting for a page to load, I have to ask myself what they were thinking. I'll be somewhere using the phones features (controlled by my fingers, for crying out loud!) and I'll have to wait nearly a minute for a page to load. It even looks ridiculous.

If it weren't for losing Visual Voicemail, or whatever else, the option to save $20 would be quite tempting.
 
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does all this matter? If you use it, great! If not, then take it off. I don't see why so many people care.
 
I must admit, and I've never said one negative thing about my iPhone on these boards, Edge seems worse the more I use it. It really seems like the biggest drawback of this phone. This opinion comes five months after being thrilled with just about all the iPhone's other features.

Sometimes, as I'm waiting for a page to load, I have to ask myself what they were thinking. I'll be somewhere using the phones features (controlled by my fingers, for crying out loud!) and I'll have to wait nearly a minute for a page to load. It even looks ridiculous.

If it weren't for losing Visual Voicemail, or whatever else, the option to save $20 would be quite tempting.
I think EDGE is fine for the few times I don't have wifi, but to me the weakest part of the iPhone is the iPod function. It just takes too many key presses (while having to look at the thing) to do what could be done with one press of the click wheel. Plus, it really sucks the battery dry in just 5 hours (Apple claims 24 hours for audio), but w/o iPod functions I can get 3-4 days from the iPhone. There is no way that it will last a whole day at work. I still have my iPhone, but have gone back to an iPod for music (back to 2 devices again).
 
visual voicemail + google maps + mail is worth it alone for me....EDGE is perfectly fine for those apps

i also use it for weather updates as well as casual browsing while I am out and about....

edge is not as fast as 3g obviously but for what I use it for it is perfect. I could not imagine not having Edge...it's like having a Treo or BlackBerry without data/internet....just a phone and a mp3 player....doesn't make much sense to me....
 
Wouldnt turning off Edge mean when you turn on your iphone its going to search for data and you will still be charged a different higher fee for not being in an Edge plan? i'm not planning on turning off my Edge since i use text messages and use Edge every once in a while when im not near a wifi area. Can anyone confirm there isn't any charges for data while being off of Edge?
 
choices are awsome

i luv the fact you can choose...
i was actually thinking of saving some money using another cell and loosing the 20 dollar for internet and text...
now i don't have to keep asking my friends who has an old atnt cell with a chip..

i say this choice is great for college students, or anyone with a tight budget, thats trying to save a little extra a month because they might be tight one month.

and yes, i am doing other things.. to save money, including taking the bus :)

not to mention there are always wifi anywhere and everywere in school campus.. so i don't need edge, but will miss visual voice mail feature, i guess i will go old school and call in.. to hear my voice mail.
 
Wouldnt turning off Edge mean when you turn on your iphone its going to search for data and you will still be charged a different higher fee for not being in an Edge plan? i'm not planning on turning off my Edge since i use text messages and use Edge every once in a while when im not near a wifi area. Can anyone confirm there isn't any charges for data while being off of Edge?
It was mentioned by one person that apparently even if you opt out of the unlimited data plan, AT&T would by default continue to allow the iPhone to request EDGE service, and you'd automatically be charged the per-kilobyte rate instead. (It seems to me that such a policy would have to be mentioned somewhere in the terms of service you've already agreed to - maybe it's time to finally get around to reading all the fine print...)

But somebody else claimed that you can optionally contact customer service and instruct them to block all of your phone's attempts to access EDGE from their end.

Not being an AT&T customer (I don't even live in a country where the iPhone is available yet) I cannot vouch for the truth of this claim, but it seems like a reasonable question to call in to AT&T and ask about. With my carrier at least, calls to customer service are always toll free and don't count toward my airtime, so I'd imagine all it'd cost you is some of your time to find out for sure.
 
After going into the AT&T wireless website i was able to change my plan from the $20 data plan over to a $14.99 data plan which has 1500 text messages instead of the 200 but it only allows 5MB of data, i'll at least be saving 5.00 a month on my iphone plan i mostly use my iphone with wifi and rarely use Edge and i do use text messages often so this one works out for me instead of cancelling the entire data plan there is another plan i noticed for data for only $4.99 which only 1MB is allowed. I noticed on my bill ive only used 1.6 MB of data already and im about a week from my bill closing date.
 
two questions:

1. What is the cost of the $60 plan a month after taxes and fees in California? My AT&T DSL/phone plan is $48 a month but that balloons to $70 with all the extras.

2. Can you turn on/off the Edge service? When I travel it would be good to have. however I work from home and an office that has wifi so 90% of my time is by wifi. The rest of the time I don't need it much (currently have a Treo that I rarely need to use on line).
 
After going into the AT&T wireless website i was able to change my plan from the $20 data plan over to a $14.99 data plan which has 1500 text messages instead of the 200 but it only allows 5MB of data, i'll at least be saving 5.00 a month on my iphone plan i mostly use my iphone with wifi and rarely use Edge and i do use text messages often so this one works out for me instead of cancelling the entire data plan there is another plan i noticed for data for only $4.99 which only 1MB is allowed. I noticed on my bill ive only used 1.6 MB of data already and im about a week from my bill closing date.

Thanks for posting that, sounds like a great solution for me as well.
 
I must admit, and I've never said one negative thing about my iPhone on these boards, Edge seems worse the more I use it. It really seems like the biggest drawback of this phone. This opinion comes five months after being thrilled with just about all the iPhone's other features.

Sometimes, as I'm waiting for a page to load, I have to ask myself what they were thinking. I'll be somewhere using the phones features (controlled by my fingers, for crying out loud!) and I'll have to wait nearly a minute for a page to load. It even looks ridiculous.

If it weren't for losing Visual Voicemail, or whatever else, the option to save $20 would be quite tempting.

Can you tell a page to load and then use other fuctions and come back once the page is loaded, or does the iPhone default out of Safari?
 
Multi-tasking on iPhone

Can you tell a page to load and then use other fuctions and come back once the page is loaded, or does the iPhone default out of Safari?

Yes. In the rare cases (commuting) I need to use EDGE, I let the e-mail and web-pages load while listening to messages, returning calls, texting, etc. The pages load in the background, which is great productivity wise. And if on the street, I'll temporarily tap into a wireless network which pops-up. Wi-MAX will soon solve all of these issues......
 
Yeah honestly what is with this wannabe JUDGMENTS FROM ABOVE??

YOU DONT DESERVE AN IPHONE IF YOU AREN'T RICH.

WTH???

Anyone can buy an iphone if they have $399

Anyone can use it ANY WAY THEY WANT whether it's $40 a month, $60 or how about $0 and use it as a paperweight? Guess what, they can do that and you can't tell them otherwise!

I would like an iphone but honestly i think anyone paying more than $20 a month to use a phone is a complete moron and just feeding the machine. But really i wouldn't call them a moron, 'cause that's just silly.

I use a prepaid and average about $17 a month.

If i had a prepaid iphone to use as a phone, and use all the wi-fi i want, i'd be happy. I often wonder if i should buy one and use my t-mobile prepaid on it and hope they keep up the hacks to make it work.

but the bottom line of this thread IS the bottom line. $20 off $60 is ONE THIRD off. If someone could get everything they buy at a 33% discount, but couldn't buy certain things they don't want, would you call them a moron?
 
Is this still available? I got an iPhone on Christmas, and my next billing cycle has begun, but I am still not able to add/remove features online. Must I still wait a FULL month to do it? Also, my father went into the AT&T store and they said you could not remove the data plan...
 
Is this still available? I got an iPhone on Christmas, and my next billing cycle has begun, but I am still not able to add/remove features online. Must I still wait a FULL month to do it? Also, my father went into the AT&T store and they said you could not remove the data plan...

Yeah...someone above said they changed their plan. I'd call ATT and get the scoop.
 
I couldn't live without Edge. Too important to me.

Work doesn't allow me to connect to their wireless from it nor is their any around me AND while driving (should I admit this?) I need it for directions with no wireless
 
it would be silly to get the iphone if you cant afford the $20 a month for data. the phone isnt the same with just wifi.

But some people dont use it much at all I leave my iphone in the car, I also unlocked it and went back to tmobile...AAT is suckie in my area and customer service is a joke.......
 
Say a person:

a. uses their phone at work and at home (both locations have WiFi).
b. makes occasional phone calls.
c. does not use text messaging, but does email and IM.
d. does not use the internet while out and about.
e. sees spending money on a service they do not use as wasteful, and does not find waste to be constructive.

The iPhone minus the data plan fits this perfectly.

It takes a certain level of shortsightedness and arrogance to go around doling out advice based on the assumption that everyone is living the same life you are.

Some of us do not NEED electronic gadgets, practically or emotionally, but bought the iphone because we use all those functions SO LITTLE, that it's attractive as an all-in-one solution.
 
Woahwoahwoah...

People need clean air, clean water, and healthy food.
Then, a sense of freedom, companionship, and a means of reproduction.
Then, then satisfying growth/stability/security of future desires...
At best, the EDGE network is a luxury that fits in near the trailing end of these.

The notion that someone could not live without some (alright, non-medical) technological gadget, or any material possession for that matter, is very sad.
 

EDGE to me seems quite slow from those I've stopped using the iPhone in non-WiFi areas. It's one of the deterrents in me ever choosing to upgrade from my Nokia 3650 and (thankfully) out of contract phone with AT&T which was a T-Mobile phone to start. The rep entered data wrong when I simply signed up for service and was given a SIM card as the phone was unlocked by T-Mo since I was living at the time in Arkansas where T-Mo didn't have towers and I could never convince AT&T it wasn't their phone. It's pretty bad when you do a hard reset in front of someone to show that when it restarts there is a "Get More From Life" logo and not a AT&T Wireless or Cingular logo back in the day.
 
I hear alot of complaints and negative comments from my 2 friends who both have their iphones on at&t. They pay alot more than than me. I pay about $66 after tax with t-mobile and my plan has: 600 daytime minutes, 400 txt msgs, t-zones (everything works fine and at a decent speed except no youtube but you can use wifi for that), free nights and weekends @ 9pm. Their at&t plan is: 450 daytime minutes, 200 txt messages, unlimited edge, free nights and weekends @ 9pm. However, they say their edge service is really slow and they get alot of dropped calls. Their signal fades when I talk to them and I hate to be talking and then be left hanging because of the other persons crappy service..lol
 
jesus... just found out that AT&T had removed the option to unsubscribe data plan...

what should I do...
 

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You had better be SURE before you remove it.

If it's like the Smartphone, you had better be ready for a Shock when your bill comes. On the Smartphone, removing a pre-paid Data plan DID NOT disable it from using the data network. You really had to do a lot to disable it. You had to remove all of the WAP settings and server IP addresses. Otherwise, you still accessed it and ran up your bill at an astronomical rate. It paid AT&T a lot if you removed the Data Plan that was pre-paid!
 
Yes, I propose that we remove $60/month. For the purchase of the iPhone, in exchange for dramatic exposure to the public, customers shall receive 2 years of free service with each iPhone purchase.

addendum
customers receiving free service agree not to call Customer Service, ever, since such calls would weigh heavily on the deficit such a move would cause AT&T.

:eek:

Comedy. That was great.... I really needed a laugh this morning. Thanks. :D
 
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