Holy s*&t that has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. I am waiting until next week to see what it has to offer before buying but I am looking into getting an iPhone and specifically do not want the data plan. I currently use my Treo 700wx without data and am happy to not have the data. I would like to use the iPhone for voice and for the same features that I would use my iTouch for. Now am I stupid because I want to combine the two so I dont have to freaking carry both? And what makes you more DESERVING of an iPhone. I do not mean to generalize anyone but this mentality of entitlement is why I avoided Apple for such a long time. It had nothing to do with the products because they are amazing. It had 100% to do with the people that used them and had the Holier Than Though attitude that because they used an Apple product, they are better than everyone else.
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Holy s*&t that has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. I am waiting until next week to see what it has to offer before buying but I am looking into getting an iPhone and specifically do not want the data plan. I currently use my Treo 700wx without data and am happy to not have the data. I would like to use the iPhone for voice and for the same features that I would use my iTouch for. Now am I stupid because I want to combine the two so I dont have to freaking carry both? And what makes you more DESERVING of an iPhone. I do not mean to generalize anyone but this mentality of entitlement is why I avoided Apple for such a long time. It had nothing to do with the products because they are amazing. It had 100% to do with the people that used them and had the Holier Than Though attitude that because they used an Apple product, they are better than everyone else.
plus if you remove the $20 plan, there's no guarantee that you can re-add it after they introduce the $30 3G plan. Same thing happens if they discontinue your voice plan, if you ever change plans, you can't change back. I'm keeping mine just so I have the option of disabling 3G on the new one and popping in my old SIM.
Hopefully, they have a "non-3G" data package back at $20/month, but who knows...I guess we just have to wait and see.
Hopefully, they have a "non-3G" data package back at $20/month, but who knows...I guess we just have to wait and see.
if no data plan, whither gps?
So if you go with the 3G, but skip the data plan, will GPS still function properly?
Is there (or will there be) an app to pre-download relevant maps? That's how many GPS devices work anyway.
So if you go with the 3G, but skip the data plan, will GPS still function properly?
Is there (or will there be) an app to pre-download relevant maps? That's how many GPS devices work anyway.
I think it stands for 200 text messages a month - which won't last long for me once I get an iPhone..
Possible iPhone 3g Data Plan Pricing
I just got off the phone from AT&T recently in regards to what the 3g iPhone data plans would cost. This is what the service rep told me
$20/mo 200 SMS messages
$30/mo 1500 SMS messages
$40/mo Unlimted SMS messages
I received this information in addition to a family talk $59.99 plan.
I just got off the phone from AT&T recently in regards to what the 3g iPhone data plans would cost. This is what the service rep told me
$20/mo 200 SMS messages
$30/mo 1500 SMS messages
$40/mo Unlimted SMS messages
I received this information in addition to a family talk $59.99 plan.
Nothing's been released yet(except mention of the $30 plan), the rep you talked to just told you what they knew about the current iPhone plans. They probably don't even understand the difference between the 3G and the iPhone 1 and just quoted you on the current plans.
Yeah I started to realize this after I posted it, I specifically indicated 3g probably 2 times, however I have a feeling there won't be any change in the data plan from my current 3g $30 plan. Although it would be nice if they upped the amount of sms messages you get with it.
i personally have zero use for the data plan, and am not willing to pay $700 bucks for something i would never need....
anyway, it seems like it would be most useful to forget the pro-con discussion and see if we can get more definite info on this issue.
i for one won't be getting one if i can't cancel the data plan like you could on the previous model.
anyway, it seems like it would be most useful to forget the pro-con discussion and see if we can get more definite info on this issue.
i for one won't be getting one if i can't cancel the data plan like you could on the previous model.
I think EDGE is a fine backup for those who can't or don't want to rely solely on WiFi. All of the login sequences get old on certain networks and sometimes take longer than if I just turn it off and get to the site I'm looking for. There are plenty of EGDE-friendly sites out there to get the information I need such as news, weather, scores, etc.
Oh and for the guy that was complaining about the number of clicks it takes to get to his iPod, I would say make it shortcut from your home button. That'll save you the 5 seconds you're looking for.
Sure you could cancel EDGE if you need to. I don't see any big deal in saving $20. I saved money going from a BlackJack to the iPhone because, ironically, I didn't have to pay for 3G - kind of a twist on this thread but anyway... I guess I wonder if people would be fine paying more for 3G? It costs $30/month, which I assume includes the hated EDGE as a backup.
Oh and for the guy that was complaining about the number of clicks it takes to get to his iPod, I would say make it shortcut from your home button. That'll save you the 5 seconds you're looking for.
Sure you could cancel EDGE if you need to. I don't see any big deal in saving $20. I saved money going from a BlackJack to the iPhone because, ironically, I didn't have to pay for 3G - kind of a twist on this thread but anyway... I guess I wonder if people would be fine paying more for 3G? It costs $30/month, which I assume includes the hated EDGE as a backup.
yeah, what really sucks is the people who still live in non-3G cities and neighborhoods. They really should include an EDGE-only plan at the original $20 for those people and anyone else who doesn't want to pay for the extra speed.
Another thing I haven't heard much on this time around is the old "You can't get discounts on anything iPhone" mantra that AT&T stuck to with iPhone EDGE. I had to remove the discounts from my line(not the rest of my family plan) before it allowed me to get the iPhone data plan. This was presumably due to the profit-sharing agreement that Apple had to get a certain % of the monthly service fees, if they're being less strict about it this time around, perhaps I'll be able to get my 25% discount back, which would in itself pay for the extra $10 of the new data plan.
Another thing I haven't heard much on this time around is the old "You can't get discounts on anything iPhone" mantra that AT&T stuck to with iPhone EDGE. I had to remove the discounts from my line(not the rest of my family plan) before it allowed me to get the iPhone data plan. This was presumably due to the profit-sharing agreement that Apple had to get a certain % of the monthly service fees, if they're being less strict about it this time around, perhaps I'll be able to get my 25% discount back, which would in itself pay for the extra $10 of the new data plan.
yeah, this is relevant to me. i live in iowa and we have zero 3g coverage, making the extra cost for the data plan that much more of a waste. but really, either way (3g or edge) i don't need/want it, and am not going to pay for it. if i can cancel it, cool, i'm gettin' me some iphone. if not, forgetboutit.
My problem is now that the data plan for the 1st gen iPhone cannot be canceled (no option is provided now)
did you try calling customer service? or just go through the website? somebody said you can still cancel by calling the customer service.
Wow this is far from the truth...
I was using an unlocked BB 8320 with NO data (it was WiFi mind you) and I enjoyed free hotspots almost everywhere I went. I had At&t add "WIX BLOCK" which blocks ALL pay per use data. So before going around saying that "...you had to do a lot to disable it." Make sure you are fully informed. This WIX Block stopped all edge and allowed me to browse free with my WiFi.
And I agree with the other people here that if I can remove the $30 plan I will, I have WiFi almost everywhere I go which will be enough for me and I dont even have 3g in my area...so whats the point? Am I THAT important that I need 24/7 access to my email? No.
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