my apologies if you felt attacked, i meant no malice when i wrote it. i'm merely stating a sate of fact. obviously sideloading isn't for you, nor me as far as i'm concerned. but if others choose to do so let them.
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Upcoming EU Sideloading Bill Would 'Cripple the Privacy and Security Protections' iPhone Users Expect, Says Apple
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People won’t use apps from small and unknown developers if they’re not on Apple’s app store, so they will be.
I don’t have any problem downloading software from Microsoft on my Mac. Actually, they offer seamless and frequent updates through their own platform.
I think you’re not considering this rationally. Microsoft and Adobe can offer much better options than Apple’s if they want and are allowed. For starters, Apple is artificially limiting Microsoft’s XCloud right now.
This is Apple being greedy, as all corporations are, plain and simple. It doesn’t benefit you.
If the only thing stopping iOS apps from secretly accessing my camera, microphone, etc. is Apple carefully scrutinizing every update to every one of the millions of apps in the Store than that is... very bad. Apple should be building an OS that is secure because it is based on secure frameworks, not because Apple is there to protect us every step of the way. If the only thing stopping an onslaught of malware onto iOS is App Review, that's not a good thing- that would be a damning indictment of Apple's ability to build a secure OS. Luckily, most of Apple's security arguments about the App Store are FUD. While there are real cons about allowing sideloading, viruses simply aren't one of them. If they were, then iOS would already be infested.
I do. That's why I specifically got my Office apps from the MAS and not Microsoft's website. I'm so happy the apps are now available in the App Store and I wish more Mac apps were.
you can sideload or not thats your option, i would probably never sideload myself. if others want to sideload sketchy apps on whatever platform they on thats their choice.According to this study by Nokia, Android accounts for 26.64% of infections, while the iPhone only accounts for 1.72%. I'll stick with the iPhone, and never sideload anything.
Ok, go visit Carbon Copy Cloner, a popular Mac app. You can only get this app directly from the devs web site and they use some unknown processor named FastSpring. I would use this software if it was in the Mac App Store but it isn't and they use some unknown payment processor I don't trust, so I won't. The least they could do is offer Apple Pay!
Yes Microsoft and Adobe probably use a reputable payment processor but I shouldn't have to give them my personal info to buy their products. In the old days I went to Best Buy, bought physical media and the dev had no idea who I was nor do they need to know!
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That hasn’t been what happened on Android. My understanding is that only a tiny fraction of people do sideloading.
Apple is forcing important developers to use workarounds such as web versions of innovative services just in order to block competitors (fe Microsoft XCloud).
They won’t allow Microsoft XBox users to get the full potential out of their subscriptions because they can’t handle that kind of competition. Microsoft’s catalog is so superior in every way to Apple’s they will do everything they can to ruin the experience.
I don’t need a kindergarten, thank you.
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And you can't run Playstation games on an Xbox or vice versa, you complaining to them too?
So if only a tiny fraction do it then there is no need to destroy the single source beauty of the Apple ecosystem.
If the case presents itself.
Right now we’re talking about Apple. I want what’s more convenient for me.
So I get that you don’t like Macs.
I have a Mac and an iPad.
I use the iPad to read the newspaper and rss feed. It’s that useless. That’s what happens when Apple controls the software too tightly. It gets absurdly and unnecessarily limited.
There was a time when Apple would only allow their own apps on the iPhone too. Same thing.
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This is really down to Apple’s bad behavior toward developers in recent years. This would be forced on them to address some of that. If they had been a better partner to the developers then there would be less pressure for these kinds of change and any changes could have been planned and negotiated so that it worked out better for Apple. Instead they may get the worst solution forced on them by governments, and probably not even the same solutions by all. It can quickly become a major cluster due to intransigenc.
well you would do that if people insist to not be forced to sideload when an app doesn't exist in the App Store. They should simply download another app instead.
But yes i agree you can just download from trusted sources, so it's a non issue
ha, what is there to challenge? This is not USA. A law cant be removed by the courts.
Who will buy these phones? I know Apple thinks customers are fools, but will they go so far as to believe they will buy Apple devices if they do this?
You want to know something interesting? EU have very strong User privacy laws, and is implementing similar legal restrictions in tandem with this legislation inspired from apple's implementation. so this is a non issue for EU at least.
And currently the Appstore policy is self reporting regarding the privacy implementation.
Why so dishonest?
1)Do you want to be able to only download apps only from the App Store as the only secure source but limited functionality? With your privacy protected by EU law
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2) Do you want to be able to download apps from the official App Store and have the ability to choose to install apps from other, less secure sources but more functionality? With your privacy protected by EU law.
EU law on works on companies that have nexus in the EU. If a developer doesn’t have an entity in the EU, doesn’t pay someone to advertise in the EU, and uses a “US” App Store, the EU has no way to force that developer to comply with EU regulations.
Yes it does, the law covers any entity that provide a service or goods to EU citizens. Why do you think a bunch of American companies have blocked Eu users because of GDPR?
It applies, but is unenforceable in most cases. If the company has no plans to ever setup offices in the EU, advertise there, or accept payment through an EU payment processor, the EU has no way to enforce any judgement. So while GDPR allows someone to sue, and they may win in absentia because the company would never show up, there isn’t a way to get the US government to enforce such a verdict, and the company would have no assets in the EU to confiscate.
I like that idea. Because for all the repeated comments that "nobody is forcing you to sideload," my main concern is that I don't want my mom or dad accidentally sideloading any malware. I already need to warn them against phishing attacks that use TestFlight.
As long as I can ensure that their iPhone model does not allow sideloading, that's good enough for my peace of mind.
If Apple are forced to support this they could take the route of Microsoft with the Xbox. Enable a sandbox mode which loads the phone in a secure mode where you can load other apps but disables and limits access to features and data they want to protect. Then if the user wants to run emulators or apps not approved by Apple, they can.
For some bizarre reason, the fanbois seem to love it that Apple can charge the Apple Tax. They justify it the same ways as a religious or political position. Weird, but human nature I presume.
I again hope Apple listen to the wisdom offered on Macrumors comment, pull out of the EU market.