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What does a bank have to gain by choosing not to be on the App Store?

For one thing they will no longer need to comply with Apple's privacy labels. Have fun reading the "legal-eeze" of user agreements and trying to decipher what data of yours is being collected, shared and sold.

Secondly, what do they gain by being there? "If you bank with us you need to visit our site for your apps", don't like that? Change banks! LOL!
 
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Apple should give its customers more credit. Nobody is forcing anyone to sideload. I sure as hell won't, except for maybe a couple of video game system emulators.
Apple: "Due to excessive market interference in respect of unauthorised software installation, we are no longer able to offer appointments at our High Street Genius Bars."

How do you like them apples?
 
This is what will happen. They'll force Apple to put in sideloading. All these "experts" who think they know what they're doing (and 80% of them don't), will sideload something they think is cool, but will end up being rife with malware and infect their devices. Then these "experts" will go to Apple and say "here, fix this...something's wrong..." and then Apple will probably, on top of all this, have to fix their screwed up device which costs them more. Because if they say "if you sideload anything, you'll void your warranty", then the EU will smack their hand and make them do it anyway.

So Apple needs to weigh paying the fines and keeping it off their devices, or paying for more tech support people to fix people's broken phones that they'll be inundated with. It's a lose-lose for Apple and from what I can tell, that makes so many people here, on an Apple centric website, happy.
 
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I'm totally against side loading, why should this be enforced? I understand the Monopoly argument but android has a bigger share then apple so how can this be used as an argument. I see a lot of people saying give the consumers a choice and this choice is already here and it's called android, no one is forcing them to use iOS. More importantly we forget that most people who visit this site are tech savy but you forget about the average Joe's (or below average Joe's). Some will download lets say a calculator app that is malicious and have no idea, but a link sent them there so they thought it was safe. Another example is lets say your browsing on your phone and it says "malware detected, download the latest antivirus app" some people will actually download the app that may very well be malicious. I mean I don't get the purpose of this and this is coming from a person who has jailbroken and rooted phones in the past. People also forget how this can hit Apples reputation. If an app was downloaded millions of times and was malicious the news/competitors could use this to target apple, but hey that is just one man's opinion.
all this issue you brought up has already been dealt with on macos which has sideload, just try install a program outside the app store, and you be hit with a boat load of warnings and verifications.
 
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Inability to download apps directly from developers is one thing that prevents the iPad from being as useful a general purpose computer as the Mac. The Mac doesn't have the problems that Apple claims is rife with downloading directly from developers. Doubt their claims that iPad needs the added protection of only allowing apps that Apple likes to be on it. And Apple dislikes apps for a lot more than just being security and privacy risks.
 
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all this issue you brought up has already been dealt with on macos which has sideload, just try install a program outside the app store, and you be hit with a boat load of warnings and verifications.
FYI: the EU has never bothered to provide a basic price comparison for software on any of these platforms. Is the official Apple or Microsoft store on desktop significantly more expensive than buying direct? How do desktop prices compare to mobile prices? What about Android side loaded software prices versus Google Play or the App Store?

If "lack of competition" really exists, those types of comparisons should be a slam dunk. But they haven't done them...
 
This is insane, unless those governments themselves take on any lawsuits and any potential loss of profits from this, which they obviously won't. You know why they wouldn't? Due to the fact that is it not their company dealing with the potential issues. If I am Apple I would make it loud and clear on my site I am against it, not liable for any issues as a result and to direct complaints toward the governments that are mandating this.
 
Exactly. Apps that we want and need will end up in stores we might not trust. It's going to be a nightmare for parents
What stores. I just want apps that Apple won't permit for reasons not related to privacy and security. I won't use some shady alternative store. I'll go directly to a trusted developer and get the apps directly from them. Just like I do on my Mac for stuff Apple won't permit on the App Store.
 
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Less profit for Apple also means less product innovation for consumers. Everyone here should be concerned that government overreach will drive down the opportunities for us to keep changing the world for the better.
I don't think that oligarchs and billionaires are so concerned about innovation. There's new chip and a couple new high end products, but most of their consumer product designs are stale, and a lot of their software just keeps getting buggier. Maybe they could work on ironing out some of those if their profits recede a bit
 
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Less profit for Apple also means less product innovation for consumers. Everyone here should be concerned that government overreach will drive down the opportunities for us to keep changing the world for the better.
Considering that Apple's cash reserves are around $200 billion, I don't think money will be the issue behind any future reduction in innovation from Apple. Apple's greed perhaps.

For one thing they will no longer need to comply with Apple's privacy labels. Have fun reading the "legal-eeze" of user agreements and trying to decipher what data of yours is being collected, shared and sold.

Secondly, what do they gain by being there? "If you bank with us you need to visit our site for your apps", don't like that? Change banks! LOL!
You mean the bank that already has all of your private information including address, email, phone number, social security number, mother's maiden name, and bank account numbers? The bank isn't getting any information from an app that they don't already have.
 
have you not read this thread? people are complaining about sideloading on ios.
sideloading isn't the only difference between ios and android, don't be daft.
You said “no one complains about side loading on Android”. That’s the case because, if it’s a big deal, you can stay on iOS. And yes, choosing Android or iOS has its upsides and downsides… that’s life, a company designs something, then you choose whatever fits you best. I don’t want the EU to do that for me.
 
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You said “no one complains about side loading on Android”. That’s the case because, if it’s a big deal, you can stay on iOS. And yes, choosing Android or iOS has its upsides and downsides… that’s life, a company designs something, then you choose whatever fits you best. I don’t want the EU to do that for me.
E.U isn't taking away your rights, its merely expanding options for others. you can still do you, but others will have the option if they want to.
 
You mean the bank that already has all of your private information including address, email, phone number, social security number, mother's maiden name, and bank account numbers? The bank isn't getting any information from an app that they don't already have.
Also banks want you using their free app and will make it available for free in the App Store and not pay Apple any money at all either way. Apple gets as much from the banking apps as they do from all the other free apps they host such as Uber and Doordash.
 
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