Upcoming iOS 13 VoIP Change That Restricts Background Access to Impact Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp

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    An upcoming change in iOS 13 that limits data collection practices using VoIP APIs will impact apps like Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp, forcing them to be redesigned, reports The Information.

    Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp allow users to make calls over the internet, and to listen for those calls, the apps run in the background of an iPhone or iPad so calls can connect quickly. While running in the background, the apps are also able to collect data, something that Apple is putting a stop to in iOS 13.

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    Background access for apps like Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp will be restricted solely to internet calls going forward, with no background data collection available.

    Sources that spoke to The Information said that this change will force Facebook to redesign its messaging apps, and that it could have a "particularly heavy impact" on WhatsApp. WhatsApp apparently uses the internet calling feature for multiple other functions, including its end-to-end encryption.

    Other messaging app developers that have used the internet calling feature to keep apps running in the background on iOS devices will also need to rebuild their apps. This will include apps like Snapchat, WeChat, and more.

    Facebook told The Information that Facebook was not collecting data through its calling feature.
    Facebook says that it is having conversations with Apple on how to address the coming changes in iOS 13. Apple is making the change in iOS 13, but developers will have until April 2020 to comply with the new rules.

    Apple says that the change will better protect user privacy and will result in performance improvements for iOS devices as background app usage for this purpose can drain system resources and shorten battery life.

    Article Link: Upcoming iOS 13 VoIP Change That Restricts Background Access to Impact Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp
     
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    Well I’m certainly not going to take their word for it.

    As far as I’m concerned, Facebook’s main function is to collect and sell data.
     
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    If you look closely you can see me holding the world's smallest violin, playing the world's saddest song for Facebook.
     
  6. bb9 macrumors member

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    I disabled background app refresh, is that not the same thing?
     
  7. rictus007 macrumors regular

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    I came here to read comments of people complaining about Tim Cook ..... I’ll come back later
     
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    Just block anything Facebook has on Apple and I'm good. Simple.
     
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    It’s about flipping time! Remember when Apple first “baked in” the Facebook login into the iOS?
     
  10. ZZ Bottom macrumors 6502a

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    Sure it was a mistake, but at least their in a concerted direction toward user privacy now.

    Yes this may create compromised experiences for some existing users. Yes Apple may lose users that switch to Android. I’m certain these are all calculated risks for the sake of making the “Apple Brand” all about privacy... for now at least.
     
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    Hope so, we don’t need Google harvesting our data
     
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    If there was a way for Facebook and WhatsApp to download from a browser directly to the iPhone (or an alternative App Store), this change would not affect them. I’m sure Apple’s call app and iMessage app is unaffected though, so why should Apple allow competition to do something differently (or let the users decide what they prefer).
     
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    I am quite okay with losing WhatsApp and Facebook functionality. Just knowing that Apple is constantly and consistently working to keep our data private makes it worthwhile.

    In fact, I’d be okay if MacOS updates forced me to delete FB entirely. I mean, it’d suck for like 2 minutes or so but I’m 99% certain life would go on.
     
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    World class my ass. It's Zuckerberg/Sandberg's Facebook. Everyone with a brain knows it's for data mining and nothing but data mining.
     
  17. olduser007 macrumors newbie

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    "To be clear--we are using the PushKit VoIP API to deliver a world-class, private messaging experience, not for the purpose of collecting data."

    Just to be really clear. Facebook is collecting data with the Pushkit VoIP APi, but it's not all they use it for. ;)
     
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    it means more security and better privacy, hopefully.
     
  19. christopherjac macrumors newbie

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    Thank god. Facebook has been abusing this and sucking up battery life forever.
     
  20. Jimmy Bubbles macrumors 6502

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    Well Google taught them everything they know about mining data/metadata.
     
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    And when I tell people that Facebook are listening to your real life conversations they laugh at me...
     
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    RE: "we are using the PushKit VoIP API to deliver a world-class, private messaging experience,"

    So, I'm assuming other apps that want to add their own Private Messaging would ALSO use the PushKit VoIP API.

    Thanks for the Head's Up on the topic !

    And, it sounds like apps don't need to adopt iOS 13 until next April.
     
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    Well, then, it looks like you won’t have to modify your App much, right. ;)
     
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    This is amazing and thank you for doing this Apple. This will definitely improve the battery life.
    While Mark can Suckhisbird.
     
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    When I go to settings and select the (google) voice app, I don’t see a toggle for microphone access or denial. That tells me that the app does not use the mic in a similar way to how Facebook messenger does. I think google voice basically does something different— essentially using the app to direct a call via your regular stock Apple phone app. So no mic access is necessary. If I’m wrong, feel free to correct me.
     

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