USB-C has been on some Apple products since 2015. Literally the ONLY Apple products I currently own that needs Lightning, are older Apple TV remotes, mice, and keyboards. iPhones and AirPods use MagSafe, Macs and iPads use USB-C.Nobody wants an extra USB-C cable for 1 device (AirPods) if the rest of their Apple devices are still lightning charging. It can become such a hassle to deal with.
Sure, it would be nice to have them all together. My point was just that those desktop accessories are probably lowest on their priority list. Even so, I expect them to make the change. Perhaps as soon as this Oct/November when we might see the next Mac updates.Yes, it does matter. It is convenient to be able to use just the cable in your reach to charge anything randomly. There is no logical reason for Apple to switch to USB-C for laptops before anyone else and force us to use lightning for the iPhones. Being able to use the same cable with MacBook, iPad and an Android phone but not an iPhone is quite absurd.
Right now there is a USB-C to lightning cable and a USB-C to USB-C cable connected to two separate ports on my Studio Display just to charge Magic Keyboard, iPhone, MX Master 3, iPad, and any other accessory that charges via Lightning/USB-C. If iPhones, AirPods and Magic accessories all switch to USB-C, there will be only one cable connected to the display for everything.
Sure, it would be nice to have them all together. My point was just that those desktop accessories are probably lowest on their priority list. Even so, I expect them to make the change. Perhaps as soon as this Oct/November when we might see the next Mac updates.
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Why would I do that while I have no USB-C devices other than my MacBook and one other device? When I replace my iPhone 14 Pro in two years, that will be the first moment that I would even consider this. And at that time, I will be in temporary **** as I won't be updating all devices at once. My iPhone 14 Pro will go to one of my children, so for at least three years beyond that I will need to have both lightning and USB-C hookups. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against going to USB-C. I was initially responding to someone who made it feel like heaven to go to USB-C. I disagree, as there is this period where you need both. For me that is going to be a three year period. And I will need to spend the money on the new chargers (which is still way cheeper than replacing all the devices). My point: don't make it sound like heaven. It will only be heaven for those who are happy with just one charging station or those who are willing to replace everything at once.And it's best to change this to the unified USB-C charging option. Just one connector and you'll soon be able to charge iPad, Macbook, iPhone, AirPods and other stuff with it. Truly awesome. No multiple connectors in each room or just one spot where you have your Macbook charger.
There does not have to be. That’s my point. I’ve already have all my devices on USB-C except for iPhone and AirPods. And I’ll change them once USB-C version gets released. Then I’m finally passing all my lightning cables to someone else and keeping just USB-C in my home. No period where I need both. This period ends in few days once USB-C iPhone and AirPods gets released.I disagree, as there is this period where you need both.
A lot of us have been in that mixed mode transition for several years and this year looks like the time when we can finally move beyond that and be able to only have one charging standard. I feel for you that this will be less convenient for you for now. My devices started switching about 5 years ago. Eventually we will both be through the turbulence and it will be a smooth flight again.Why would I do that while I have no USB-C devices other than my MacBook and one other device? When I replace my iPhone 14 Pro in two years, that will be the first moment that I would even consider this. And at that time, I will be in temporary **** as I won't be updating all devices at once. My iPhone 14 Pro will go to one of my children, so for at least three years beyond that I will need to have both lightning and USB-C hookups. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against going to USB-C. I was initially responding to someone who made it feel like heaven to go to USB-C. I disagree, as there is this period where you need both. For me that is going to be a three year period. And I will need to spend the money on the new chargers (which is still way cheeper than replacing all the devices). My point: don't make it sound like heaven. It will only be heaven for those who are happy with just one charging station or those who are willing to replace everything at once.
For you this does not have to be. I'm happy for you that you have no period where you need both. For me, I'm not replacing all devices at once, so I will have a couple of years where this is the situation. The reason I am having these discussions is that some people in these fora seem to think that everybody is like them. Obviously that is not the case, as you are not going to have this issue of having both USB-C and lightning at the same time, whereas I (and many others) are going to have this situation for one or more years.There does not have to be. That’s my point. I’ve already have all my devices on USB-C except for iPhone and AirPods. And I’ll change them once USB-C version gets released. Then I’m finally passing all my lightning cables to someone else and keeping just USB-C in my home. No period where I need both. This period ends in few days once USB-C iPhone and AirPods gets released.
I get your point. But iPhone switching to USB-C is not creating this problem! It's ending this problem. This problem already started when Apple did not switch to USB-C back then when others did. All devices are now using USB-C.For you this does not have to be. I'm happy for you that you have no period where you need both. For me, I'm not replacing all devices at once, so I will have a couple of years where this is the situation. The reason I am having these discussions is that some people in these fora seem to think that everybody is like them. Obviously that is not the case, as you are not going to have this issue of having both USB-C and lightning at the same time, whereas I (and many others) are going to have this situation for one or more years.
Eeeeeexactly!I get your point. But iPhone switching to USB-C is not creating this problem! It's ending this problem. This problem already started when Apple did not switch to USB-C back then when others did. All devices are now using USB-C.
So this dual connector setup mess (created by Apple) applies to anyone, who is currently using iPhone or AirPods plus either of the following devices
With iPhone (and AirPods) supporting USB-C it is currently possible to end this mess. Whether you will buy it and resolve it or whether you'll wait - it's up to you. But new iPhone will finally brings the possibility to end it. It is not creating the problem like it may sound from your post (sorry if I just understood your initial post incorrectly)
- iPad
- MacBook
- any other non-Apple portable device (basically any headphones, power bank, PS5 controller, bluetooth speaker...)
I get your point. But iPhone switching to USB-C is not creating this problem! It's ending this problem. This problem already started when Apple did not switch to USB-C back then when others did. All devices are now using USB-C.
I don't agree with you.I personally think that this whole “having to maintain both lightning and usb c” problem has largely been over exaggerated by the media and tech forums.
As it stands, charging my Apple Watch still needs a proprietary puck. Charging the microphone I use in class requires a micro-usb cable. My school laptop comes with a barrel-shaped charger (though it also has a usb c port, but I have to supply the brick myself). I have been charging my iPhone via MagSafe since the day I bought it.
One more or one less usb c port is not the salvation you are all making it out to be.
Devices I use daily are all USB-C
One port, one cable, one charger to rule them all. One USB-C cable on my table going from my docking station, USB-C chargers in every room.
- Macbook
- iPad
- phone
- noise cancelling headphones
- Kindle
No, as I said in my previous post - USB-C chargers (multiple of them) in every room and they are with appropriate cables of course.And you are telling me that you use only one usb c cable to charge all those 5 devices? I personally have dedicated charging bricks / cables / stands for all my stuff.
I don't agree with you.
It's your own setup holding you back from USB-C unification. I've switched from all microUSB devices while ago.
I'm charging my phone with cable, I don't go to school anymore, so I don't have any specific school laptop
and I don't have nor want Apple Watch (or any watch).
Devices I use daily are all USB-C
One port, one cable, one charger to rule them all. One USB-C cable on my table going from my docking station, USB-C chargers in every room.
- Macbook
- iPad
- phone
- noise cancelling headphones
- Kindle
So yeah, for me it is truly USB-C only environment. And it's great. And it's very useful when travelling. No need to pack multiple cables and possibly forget one.
I personally think that this whole “having to maintain both lightning and usb c” problem has largely been over exaggerated by the media and tech forums.
As it stands, charging my Apple Watch still needs a proprietary puck. Charging the microphone I use in class requires a micro-usb cable. My school laptop comes with a barrel-shaped charger (though it also has a usb c port, but I have to supply the brick myself). I have been charging my iPhone via MagSafe since the day I bought it.
One more or one less usb c port is not the salvation you are all making it out to be.
I agree that at some point, USB-C is supposed to end the problem. No discussion there.I get your point. But iPhone switching to USB-C is not creating this problem! It's ending this problem. This problem already started when Apple did not switch to USB-C back then when others did. All devices are now using USB-C.
So this dual connector setup mess (created by Apple) applies to anyone, who is currently using iPhone or AirPods plus either of the following devices
With iPhone (and AirPods) supporting USB-C it is currently possible to end this mess. Whether you will buy it and resolve it or whether you'll wait - it's up to you. But new iPhone will finally brings the possibility to end it. It is not creating the problem like it may sound from your post (sorry if I just understood your initial post incorrectly)
- iPad
- MacBook
- any other non-Apple portable device (basically any headphones, power bank, PS5 controller, bluetooth speaker...)
I agree that at some point, USB-C is supposed to end the problem. No discussion there.
I just hope that we won't be in the same mess in 10 years when we find out that USB-C doesn't cut it anymore.
I'm happy that you are already in the stage of commonality. I don't see me ever reaching that stage. I just got rid of the last mini usb device. By the time we go to the successor of USB-C, I'll still be in transition. Most of my friends and acquantances are in this like me. We don't have to agree, and various others in this forum are in it like you. Just don't think everybody is in it the same.Yes but we will have had 10 years of commonality and standing connections -Whats not to like about that? Then we move on to the next “ big thing” and keep it for another 10 years.
I mean, how old are your non USB-C devices (that you use daily)? And how many more years do you plan to keep using them?I agree that at some point, USB-C is supposed to end the problem. No discussion there.
I just hope that we won't be in the same mess in 10 years when we find out that USB-C doesn't cut it anymore.
iPhones and AirPods CAN use MagSafe. The primary charger here is not MagSafe or USB-C. MagSafe is an optional, additional accessory to purchase if wanted. But, nice cover for Apple.USB-C has been on some Apple products since 2015. Literally the ONLY Apple products I currently own that needs Lightning, are older Apple TV remotes, mice, and keyboards. iPhones and AirPods use MagSafe, Macs and iPads use USB-C.
And of course it’s not just Apple. Kindle, Beats, hearing aid charger, flashlights, etc etc etc all used micro USB. Not all of those have been replaced, but I’m slowly making my way over to a single plug. I’m already to the point that when I’m taking a trip overnight, I just need USB-C and a MagSafe charging mat. It was a nightmare for a while, making sure I had the right “mix” of cables both for the hotel and for the event I was attending.
So you’re complaining about… too many options? I’m not sure I see your point.iPhones and AirPods CAN use MagSafe. The primary charger here is not MagSafe or USB-C. MagSafe is an optional, additional accessory to purchase if wanted. But, nice cover for Apple.
I guess that that is the difference between people celebrating this change and those who say it will not make life better. You would perhaps replace devices sooner than others.I mean, how old are your non USB-C devices (that you use daily)? And how many more years do you plan to keep using them?