jiggie2g said:
Really? That is good to know cause all I use to do on my ibook G4 was work, surf, watch movies and chat. So that shouldn't be an issue then. Can We expect 20% more battery life as well tho?
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Really? That is good to know cause all I use to do on my ibook G4 was work, surf, watch movies and chat. So that shouldn't be an issue then. Can We expect 20% more battery life as well tho?
AcousticDoc said:
When you consider how utterly and completely the Core Duo cleans the
G4's clock (no pun intended), it is impressive that the MBP and MB's battery
life are as good as they are. If the Merom improves on this, even better.
I am so very glad that I waited when I wanted an iBook last November.
Now all I have to decide is buy MB now or wait for Merom?
Snide said:When you consider how utterly and completely the Core Duo cleans the
G4's clock (no pun intended), it is impressive that the MBP and MB's battery
life are as good as they are. If the Merom improves on this, even better.
I am so very glad that I waited when I wanted an iBook last November.
Now all I have to decide is buy MB now or wait for Merom?
apple's websitesays the MB has a six hour battery life. Have peeople been able to confirm this in the real world? My ibook G4 almost always got at least 5 hours and 30 minutes. Sigh....I miss my ibook...This macbook better be worth it!
AcousticDoc said:
I wonder how long can you keep this 5.5 hours of battery life? A year plus some? I remember my G4 TiBook battery gets progressively worse after a year of use. Toward the end of the second year we are talking about 1.5 hours (real world number).
Cinch
Cinch said:
my 15" Al PB gets 4 hrs 15 mins after a full charge, as long as i dont have the screen brightness up past 50%, but i think thats a good trade off.
Its a year old still performing like the day i got it, only problem i have is the (almost) microscopic dent on the right palm rest where i dropped my ipod on it
Core Trio said:
Yeah! That was exactaly what I wanted to say!
Thank you!
So, this is not at all a minor speed bump like was said, and is much much better than what we were used to before Intel.
Don't you think it?
It's nice to see consistent updates out of Apple's chip producers. Will we have more than 1 laptop update a year?! Oh well, looks like it's back to waiting for me...
Fabio_gsilva said:
Yes. We might even see Pre-N wireless, black iMacs/eMacs, smaller form factor PMs, etc
zippo said:
Well given that the current core duo chips are faster than anything out there...except the quad. In your case i would do one of two things
1. Buy the low end macbook (1.83) and keep your PB now as a stop gap and when your dream system is built, you can just sell both off and get it. Both machine should get you a decent resale value towards your new system. The reason i say keep the PB is incase you find rosetta's performance to be subpar you can always change between both systems to increase productivity
2. You can sell the PB and buy a high end macbook (2.0GHz) and dump loads of RAM in it, which should increase rosetta's performance and when your dream machine is built, you just sell the macbook (which will garner a better resale value than the low end one) and get your dream machine.
Goodluck with whatever you decide
AcousticDoc said:
It's just more performance. Merom has exactly the same power and heat requirements as Yonah.
Snide said:
It doesn't improve on it. Merom has the exact same power requirements as Yonah. What you get is supposedly 20% more performance for the same power consumption.
And the MBP and MB only get reasonable battery life because they made the battery bigger, and heavier. iBook/Powerbook G4 had a 50Wh battery. MacBook is 55Wh. MacBookPro 15" is 60Wh. 17" is 68Wh.
Performance went up with the MacBook(Pro) from the iBook/Powerbook but so also did power consumption.
Front Sie Bus Speeds
Remember, the G5's have the highest speed front side busses. Except the iMacs, they had a 1/2 speed buss. The dual dual 2.5 GHz are 1.25 GHz & the dual 2.7 GHz are 1.35 GHz. This seems to be faster than the much slower 667 MHz of the Intel processors.
The Intel front side buss has an easy time to beat the much older G4's speed. It will take a much longer & harder time to match the G5's front side buss speed.
Bill the TaxMan
Chaszmyr said:Speak for yourself, I want a 3ghz frontside bus in 12 months
Remember, the G5's have the highest speed front side busses. Except the iMacs, they had a 1/2 speed buss. The dual dual 2.5 GHz are 1.25 GHz & the dual 2.7 GHz are 1.35 GHz. This seems to be faster than the much slower 667 MHz of the Intel processors.
The Intel front side buss has an easy time to beat the much older G4's speed. It will take a much longer & harder time to match the G5's front side buss speed.
Bill the TaxMan
jiggie2g said:
Only marginally and only usually in integer performance. Plus you're hobbled by non-Universal binaries, integrated graphics and laptop drives.
Let's not get carried away with the Intel fanboism. The MacBook's a nice laptop but it's not a desktop.
God... I was gonna go get a black macbook tommorrow. Should I wait? I don't need it but oh...I want it so...
MacBook Does Not Out-Perform Dual 2GHz G5 PowerMacs - Barefeats Shootout Proves It
Not Really. He was just kidding. I give you the Barefeats Shootout.jiggie2g said:
aegisdesign said:
Look At The Numbers Before You Buy MacBook - Barefeats MacBook Vs. Other Mac Mobiles
You need cold water? I give you the Barefeats MacBook comparative benchmarks against other Mac Mobiles.ModestPenguin said:God... I was gonna go get a black macbook tommorrow. Should I wait? I don't need it but oh...I want it so...
CommodityFetish said:
regarding a., what if the MacBook came down in price?
regarding b., what if we get a MacBook Pro 13" with Merom and GMA965
as for c., well maybe, but do we really know those are the chips Apple was lusting over?
I guess Merom could go into MacBooks right away, particularly if they stay at the same price. But I'd rather see the new processors as CTO options and/or a MBP 13", and have the MacBooks base price drop.
Multimedia said:You need cold water? I give you the Barefeats MacBook comparative benchmarks against other Mac Mobiles.
No I love Mb, but how soon is this Merom gonna be stuck in the MB, I would be slightly angered if the mb I bought was upgraded in a few weeks. By slightly agnry I mean Hulk style green penguin of vengeful doom angry. If you know what I mean.
MacBook - Waiting For Merom 'Til We Don't Know When
B) would be nice.
C) Probably since they are all 64-bit which is the goal right?
Which leads us back to "We don't know".
We don't know. There are some here who think MacBook (MB) won't get Merom before next year and others who think it will happen in September. There's just no way of knowing how soon the switch to Merom will happen for MacBook. MacBook Pro will happen by September for sure.ModestPenguin said:
A) Apple has no history of lowering prices much. I doubt they will lower the price of a hit model when they don't need to.lord patton said:
B) would be nice.
C) Probably since they are all 64-bit which is the goal right?
Which leads us back to "We don't know".
Merom
Forgive me, I thought Merom and the new server chips are 64 bit instead of the current 32 in the Macs. No one has mentioned this change in the discussion so far. Am I wrong?
Forgive me, I thought Merom and the new server chips are 64 bit instead of the current 32 in the Macs. No one has mentioned this change in the discussion so far. Am I wrong?
lord patton said:
I think it will be more of a priority to keep top-of-the-line chips in their portables. They are charging $150 for black plastic after all!
Though I could see the low end model coming down $100 or so to give them a sub-$1000 option again. This one might stay Yonah... Their overall strategy just seems to be better machines at the same prices - and the chips will be the same price as current models.
lord patton said:
If we were going to see one I think we would have seen it already. The black plastic and the "MacBook Family" especially makes me think we won't. I may be wrong. It just seems that Apple is betting that those doing intense graphics work will want the MBP's bigger screen.
lord patton said:
D#$% if I can't remember where I read this...
lord patton said:
More options would be nice. We'll just have to wait and see. I just hope it's sooner and not later!
(The current MacBook looks like a great machine - I'm just not in any great need for an upgrade until the fall...)
My point is simply that if Apple needs to differentiate between MB and MBP, it will be better and cheaper for Apple to use a slightly lower clocked Merom than a slightly higher clocked Yonah. Having said that, if the MHz myth persists, it will be difficult for Apple to put in a slower clocked chip and say it is faster, even though it is the truth (for once!).jiggie2g said: