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Updates from New York Media Event

Aperture Upgrade

Apple has an upgrade listed for Aperture on http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs.html


Full Version M9893Z/A
Upgrade Version M9894Z/A


EDIT: Oh wait, both those links lead to Motion. Looks like Apple just took the template for the Motion app webpage and changed the info for Aperture, but forgot those store links.
 
New 15" RAM Specs?

Seems to be a typo on the Apple spec page. They say "The 15-inch and 17-inch models use PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333MHz"

All the RAM sites have it: PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 533MHz.

Am I missing something here? Doesn't seem to be any PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM out there running at 333Mhz except in Apple's specs.Is this an Apple typo?
 
No 1920x1200 on the 17"?

Huh?

What?

No price adjustment on the ibooks or 12" PB?

No adjustment on the refurbs?

512MB of RAM in a $3300 system?

Good lord.

kenstee said:
Seems to be a typo on the Apple spec page. They say "The 15-inch and 17-inch models use PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333MHz"

All the RAM sites have it: PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 533MHz.

Am I missing something here? Doesn't seem to be any PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM out there running at 333Mhz except in Apple's specs.Is this an Apple typo?
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Well, the PC2-xxxx part specifies the speed.

So if a site says that 4200 is 533MHz, then it's probably a typo.
 
Hey maybe someone has already asked this question?

The new PowerMac has a single dual core chip on a single HT bus running at half the processor speed.

The old PowerMac has a dedicated bus at half the processor speed for each single core chip.

So the question is: Which is better? Obviously the Quad is a beast, but what about the other two models compared to their older counterparts?
 
baleensavage said:
Also, did anyone else notice the small print about native PSD support... no layers or alpha channels. In other words, no PSD support. Why bother, since a PSD without layers might as well be a TIFF.
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iPhoto is a horror for managing. Just a terrible mess. Anything would be better.

And I have a feeling that the PSD issue is to avoid messing around with Adobe's domain. I really don't think that this App is designed to bypass PS for most images.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to try it out at the Expo.

JT
 
mnkeybsness said:
What a lack of information on "Aperture"... this program is going to have to be really dern good to compete with Photoshop. I really don't understand why Apple just jumped into the photo/imaging market like this; there's just no hole for them to fill at the moment.
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Looking at the specs of what is on the Apple site...

What Aperture is a combination of iPhoto on Steroids, OEM camera software, and Extensis Portfolio.

Assuming you are a pro who can afford it, you'll use Aperture to import your raw photos from the camera, make color adjsutments and minor edits, organize, and archive your images from Aperture, and then, if you need to, you will launch into PS to do the full gamut of things you can do there.

So, Adobe may not be happy, but certainly isn't worried. Extensis and camera manafacturers who sell software should be very concerned.

It looks like it could be a very good (expensive) tool.

No more Portfolio and Nikon Capture?.. that would be very cool.
 
shoffmueller said:
Don't listen to them - they're just a bunch of complainers who wouldn't be happy with anything. After every product announcement, this macrumors forum is filled with a all these losers who feel they should have been consulted by Apple prior to the product launch. Never mind that a kazillion of these powerbooks will be sold the first month.
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My thoughts! Amém!
 
Mehhh

So, wtf happened to the 7448?? PBs are still overpriced and underpowered, so I'll be keeping my money, Apple. No thanks.
 
DrGruv1 said:
prices are out of line...

$3299

someone fill me in on why?
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It's a good price for a quad-core machine from a major manufacturer, especially since it will wank all over any Intel dual-core processor, and compete fairly well with AMD dual-cores.

I read a review of Intel's just released Paxville dual-core Xeon today. It runs at a top speed of 2.8GHz (and no motherboards are available yet, they had to use a pre-release one). Each core has 2MB of L2 cache, but otherwise it can't even keep up most of the time with a 1.8GHz dual-core chip from AMD. AMD only recently released a 2.4GHz dual-core processor. The G5 is 2.5GHz dual-core - so Apple are competitive in terms of processing power on their workstations, and that is good.
 
igetbanned said:
No 1920x1200 on the 17"?

Huh?

What?

No price adjustment on the ibooks or 12" PB?

No adjustment on the refurbs?

512MB of RAM in a $3300 system?

Good lord.
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Is your glass half empty? Because you just pointed out the only pontially negative aspects of this update. The positives, I think, greatly outweigh the negatives.
 
wildmac said:
No more Portfolio and Nikon Capture?.. that would be very cool.
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My thoughts exactly . Not to mention getting a real lightbox insead of the dog-slow disaster that is NikonView ...though Photo Mechanic has been pretty good overall.

JT
 
AidenShaw said:
Theoretical peak (8*2*2.5) vs. delivered FLOPs is a big difference.... If you look at actual benchmarks, SSE and x86 aren't too bad....

(And how'd you get 21 - 8*2*2.5=40 GFLOPS for me...)

Also, realize that AltiVec isn't IEEE-compliant....

"When it comes to other aspects of IEEE-754 compliance, SSE is a bit of a step up. While AltiVec delivers the Java subset of IEEE-754, the Intel vector unit is a fully IEEE-754 compliant machine, delivering full rounding modes, exceptions and flags.
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Apple's benchmarks on their own site done running linpack came up with 21GFLOPS. That's delivered FLOPS, albeit in a particular benchmark.
 
wildmac said:
So, Adobe may not be happy, but certainly isn't worried. Extensis and camera manafacturers who sell software should be very concerned.
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But from what Adobe has been updating, it looks like Adobe was headed this way already. CS2 revamped the RAW support and File/Broswer/Version Cue is headed in the direction of being an alternative to Portfolio.

Frankly however, it's about time Adobe had some real competition. The CS2 update (with the exception of Illustrator) is pretty weak.
 
Frobozz said:
Hey maybe someone has already asked this question?

The new PowerMac has a single dual core chip on a single HT bus running at half the processor speed.

The old PowerMac has a dedicated bus at half the processor speed for each single core chip.

So the question is: Which is better? Obviously the Quad is a beast, but what about the other two models compared to their older counterparts?
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See my post a few pages back. Basically other improvements in the processor negate any loss because of having to share the (already massive bandwidth) bus.
 
igetbanned said:
Well, the PC2-xxxx part specifies the speed.

So if a site says that 4200 is 533MHz, then it's probably a typo.
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Actually all the RAM sites spec it at 533. Only Apple has it spec'ed at 333. That's why I was wondering if it was a typo by Apple. Or is it a case where this RAM will be slowed down intentionally in the Apple PBs.
 
Frobozz said:
Is your glass half empty? Because you just pointed out the only pontially negative aspects of this update. The positives, I think, greatly outweigh the negatives.
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Okay dr. phil.

Thanks for the 'pick me up'! :rolleyes:

kenstee said:
Actually all the RAM sites spec it at 533. Only Apple has it spec'ed at 333. That's why I was wondering if it was a typo by Apple. Or is it a case where this RAM will be slowed down intentionally in the Apple PBs.
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it's 533, that's running at 333, because the motherboard is telling it to.
 
neutrino23 said:
I think we won't see Intel based PBs for a year. Yonah looks to be in trouble and, more importantly, the pro apps aren't there. I'd guess we'll see two more PPC PBs before the switch to Intel.
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Considering that Apple seems to have shifted nearly all its Powerbook resources to Intel development, I cannot imagine that we will see anymore PPC Powerbooks before the switch to Intel, even if Yonah runs into trouble.
 
BenRoethig said:
Aperture scares be though. It might cross into Photoshop's territory a little too much. Do I need to remind people what would happen to the pro Mac sector if Adobe cesed Mac development?
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First off, is Adobe that all-powerfull that we should be afraid of incurring their wrath?..

Second, Aperture is aimed at replacing OEM camera software, other raw-image software, extensis Portfolio and the like.

It looks to be very good, and no, its not a PS replacement.
 
dferrara said:
Wow, then it's completely useless, or worse, it's slower because of CAS latency. :mad:
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I wouldn't say useless.

Probably just a way for Apple to control what they have to order.

No need to order 333 and 533, when 533 will work at both.
 
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