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Yes!! Updated PBs! I'm finally going to make the switch. I'm off to the Apple Store right away!
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New powerbooks at MWSF are looking like a lock now. This powerbook update was pathetic, but expected, and I'm glad. The sooner we get intel the better!!
Happy for the larger resolution displays for the PB's. But I am really more excited about the price reduction on the displays and the PM upgrades to dual-core, etc...
Ouch! My eyes!
I know some people will be happy with the new high-res PBs, but I actually find it almost a relief using a 14" iBook instead of my 15" 1280x864!
But it won't matter when Leopard brings us a res-independent UI
And these screens are brighter, which does help.
This does make it seem like Intel PBs will be coming next year sooner rather than later! Apple can only use what Freescale gives them, and it seems like nothing else was possible now. So bring on Intel. (Meanwhile, the PB runs OS X, which puts it ahead of any other laptop in terms of real-world usefulness. Unless raw speed trumps reliability and security.)
The 12" PB already HAD very small pixels, so I can understand not bothering to update that. I WOULD have liked to see the other PB features (like lighted keys) reach the 12", since that's the size I'd want.
Quad G5 PMs? New PCI-E GPUs? Looks like PPC is going out with a nice bang!
And that 30" display is entering my price range....
Aperture sounds cool for photographers, but not a replacement for everything Photoshop does. Good--there's room for both. (I'd love a Core Image-enabled Intel Photoshop late next year.)
I know some people will be happy with the new high-res PBs, but I actually find it almost a relief using a 14" iBook instead of my 15" 1280x864!
But it won't matter when Leopard brings us a res-independent UI
And these screens are brighter, which does help.This does make it seem like Intel PBs will be coming next year sooner rather than later!
Apple can only use what Freescale gives them, and it seems like nothing else was possible now. So bring on Intel. (Meanwhile, the PB runs OS X, which puts it ahead of any other laptop in terms of real-world usefulness. Unless raw speed trumps reliability and security.)The 12" PB already HAD very small pixels, so I can understand not bothering to update that. I WOULD have liked to see the other PB features (like lighted keys) reach the 12", since that's the size I'd want.
Quad G5 PMs? New PCI-E GPUs? Looks like PPC is going out with a nice bang!
And that 30" display is entering my price range....
Aperture sounds cool for photographers, but not a replacement for everything Photoshop does. Good--there's room for both. (I'd love a Core Image-enabled Intel Photoshop late next year.)
Now comes the cries of disappointment
I wish I could filter comments out that start with: {yawn}. As if you know better.
I wish I could filter comments out that start with: {yawn}. As if you know better.
I personally have no need for any of these upgrades. I was hoping for something a little better in the 12" lineup since I will be buying one soon. (Usual sob story there!)
The dual-dual is pretty interesting and should result in some high-intensity apps running smoother than a cheetah over flat ground. Then again, my highest intensity app is iTunes, which runs nice now, anyway.
HD displays are probably going to be very costly, but hopefully they lower the price of the older 'lower-end" displays. Now, it has been almost an hour and the Apple Store isn't back up yet. Odd.
The dual-dual is pretty interesting and should result in some high-intensity apps running smoother than a cheetah over flat ground. Then again, my highest intensity app is iTunes, which runs nice now, anyway.
HD displays are probably going to be very costly, but hopefully they lower the price of the older 'lower-end" displays. Now, it has been almost an hour and the Apple Store isn't back up yet. Odd.
From the Press Releases
Apple(R) today unveiled its new Power Mac(R) G5 desktop line featuring the Power Mac G5 Quad, providing quad-core processing with two 2.5 GHz dual-core PowerPC G5 processors. All Power Mac G5 models now feature dual-core processors, a new PCI Express architecture and higher performance graphics options including NVIDIA's Quadro FX 4500, bringing the industry standard for workstation graphics to the Mac(R).
With two 2.5 GHz dual-core processors, each with 1MB of L2 cache, the Power Mac G5 Quad delivers breakthrough performance on applications used extensively by creative professionals and scientists.
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The new Power Mac G5 comes standard with either the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of video memory or the NVIDIA GeForce 6660 with 256MB of video memory, both provide support for dual-displays and Apple's breakthrough 30-inch Cinema HD Display, now priced at $2,499. The NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT with 256MB of video memory and the NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 with 512MB of video memory are both available as build-to-order options. The Quadro FX 4500 is ideal for demanding animation, special effects and scientific visualization applications such as Alias' Maya and DeLano Research's PyMol. The Quadro FX 4500 can drive up to two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays and includes a stereo 3D port to connect goggles for stereo-in-a-window applications.
Pricing & Availability
The 2.0 GHz and 2.3 GHz Power Mac G5 Dual are available now and the 2.5 GHz Power Mac G5 Quad will be available in early November through the Apple Store(R) (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
The Power Mac G5 Dual, with a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:
-- dual-core 2.0GHz PowerPC G5 processor; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 160GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive(TM) with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. The Power Mac G5 Dual, with a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
-- dual-core 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 processor; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. The Power Mac G5 Quad, with a suggested retail price of $3,299 (US), includes:
-- two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. Build-to-order options include up to 16GB of NECC or ECC DDR2 SDRAM, up to two 500 GB Serial ATA hard drives running at 7200 rpm, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT with 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 graphics card with 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth module, Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Wireless Mouse, Xserve RAID and Apple Fibre Channel PCI Express Card.
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PowerBook Pricing & Availability
The 12-inch and new 15- and 17-inch PowerBooks are available immediately through the Apple Store(R) (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
The 1.5 GHz, 12-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $1,499 (US), includes:
-- 512MB of PC2700 333 MHz DDR SDRAM, expandable up to 1.25GB; -- a slot-load 8X SuperDrive (DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive; -- an 80GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- AirPort Extreme 54 Mbps 802.11g WiFi fast wireless networking and internal Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI, VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- two USB 2.0 ports and FireWire(R) 400; -- audio line in and headphone out; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. The 1.67 GHz, 15-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:
-- a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW); -- 512MB of PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333 MHz, expandable up to 2GB; -- 80GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- Built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI (Dual Link for 30-inch Cinema HD Display support), VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000BASE-T); -- two USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 400 and 800; -- analog and optical digital audio input and output; -- illuminated keyboard with ambient light sensor; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. The 1.67 GHz, 17-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
-- a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW); -- 512MB of PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333 MHz, expandable up to 2GB; -- 120GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- Built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI (Dual Link for 30-inch Cinema HD Display support), VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000BASE-T); -- two USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 400 and 800; -- analog and optical digital audio input and output; -- illuminated keyboard with ambient light sensor; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. Additional build-to-order options for the 12-inch PowerBook include the ability to upgrade to 100GB (5400 rpm) hard drive, up to 1.25GB DDR SDRAM, a slot-load Combo (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) optical drive, and the AppleCare Protection Plan. Additional build-to-order options for the new 15- and 17-inch PowerBooks include the ability to upgrade up to 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, a slot-load Combo (DVD- ROM/CD-RW) optical drive, and the AppleCare Protection Plan. The new 15-inch PowerBook also offers a 100GB or 120GB (5400 rpm) hard drive as a build-to- order option.
Apple(R) today unveiled its new Power Mac(R) G5 desktop line featuring the Power Mac G5 Quad, providing quad-core processing with two 2.5 GHz dual-core PowerPC G5 processors. All Power Mac G5 models now feature dual-core processors, a new PCI Express architecture and higher performance graphics options including NVIDIA's Quadro FX 4500, bringing the industry standard for workstation graphics to the Mac(R).
With two 2.5 GHz dual-core processors, each with 1MB of L2 cache, the Power Mac G5 Quad delivers breakthrough performance on applications used extensively by creative professionals and scientists.
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The new Power Mac G5 comes standard with either the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of video memory or the NVIDIA GeForce 6660 with 256MB of video memory, both provide support for dual-displays and Apple's breakthrough 30-inch Cinema HD Display, now priced at $2,499. The NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT with 256MB of video memory and the NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 with 512MB of video memory are both available as build-to-order options. The Quadro FX 4500 is ideal for demanding animation, special effects and scientific visualization applications such as Alias' Maya and DeLano Research's PyMol. The Quadro FX 4500 can drive up to two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays and includes a stereo 3D port to connect goggles for stereo-in-a-window applications.
Pricing & Availability
The 2.0 GHz and 2.3 GHz Power Mac G5 Dual are available now and the 2.5 GHz Power Mac G5 Quad will be available in early November through the Apple Store(R) (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
The Power Mac G5 Dual, with a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:
-- dual-core 2.0GHz PowerPC G5 processor; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 160GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive(TM) with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. The Power Mac G5 Dual, with a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
-- dual-core 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 processor; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. The Power Mac G5 Quad, with a suggested retail price of $3,299 (US), includes:
-- two dual-core 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 processors; -- 512MB of 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM expandable up to 16GB; -- 250GB Serial ATA hard drive running at 7200 rpm; -- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM -- three open PCI Express expansion slots: two 4-lane slots and one 8-lane slot; -- dual Gigabit Ethernet ports; -- 16x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVDÃ ±RW/CD-RW); and -- ships with Mighty Mouse and Apple Keyboard. Build-to-order options include up to 16GB of NECC or ECC DDR2 SDRAM, up to two 500 GB Serial ATA hard drives running at 7200 rpm, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT with 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 graphics card with 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM, AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth module, Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Wireless Mouse, Xserve RAID and Apple Fibre Channel PCI Express Card.
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PowerBook Pricing & Availability
The 12-inch and new 15- and 17-inch PowerBooks are available immediately through the Apple Store(R) (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.
The 1.5 GHz, 12-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $1,499 (US), includes:
-- 512MB of PC2700 333 MHz DDR SDRAM, expandable up to 1.25GB; -- a slot-load 8X SuperDrive (DVD+/-RW/CD-RW) optical drive; -- an 80GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- AirPort Extreme 54 Mbps 802.11g WiFi fast wireless networking and internal Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI, VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- two USB 2.0 ports and FireWire(R) 400; -- audio line in and headphone out; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. The 1.67 GHz, 15-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $1,999 (US), includes:
-- a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW); -- 512MB of PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333 MHz, expandable up to 2GB; -- 80GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- Built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI (Dual Link for 30-inch Cinema HD Display support), VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000BASE-T); -- two USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 400 and 800; -- analog and optical digital audio input and output; -- illuminated keyboard with ambient light sensor; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. The 1.67 GHz, 17-inch PowerBook G4, for a suggested retail price of $2,499 (US), includes:
-- a slot-load 8x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD+R DL/DVD+/-RW/CD-RW); -- 512MB of PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM running at 333 MHz, expandable up to 2GB; -- 120GB Ultra ATA/100 (5400 rpm) hard drive with Sudden Motion Sensor; -- Built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking & Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; -- DVI (Dual Link for 30-inch Cinema HD Display support), VGA, S-video and composite video support; -- Gigabit Ethernet (10/100/1000BASE-T); -- two USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 400 and 800; -- analog and optical digital audio input and output; -- illuminated keyboard with ambient light sensor; and -- a scrolling TrackPad. Additional build-to-order options for the 12-inch PowerBook include the ability to upgrade to 100GB (5400 rpm) hard drive, up to 1.25GB DDR SDRAM, a slot-load Combo (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) optical drive, and the AppleCare Protection Plan. Additional build-to-order options for the new 15- and 17-inch PowerBooks include the ability to upgrade up to 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, a slot-load Combo (DVD- ROM/CD-RW) optical drive, and the AppleCare Protection Plan. The new 15-inch PowerBook also offers a 100GB or 120GB (5400 rpm) hard drive as a build-to- order option.
I'd bet 2.3 It reads like they are jsut adding another 2.3DC for 900.cr2sh said:
I'm more intrigued by Aperture even though I don't do photo work. It seems like the kind of thing that in a few years would lend itself to consumer apps (working on RAW in iPhoto). That's kind of what I'd like, just because I don't have the skills to make this worth it. My favorite concern? How some Miscrosoft fans won't restrain themselves from the "Stacks? Well, I guess Steve couldn't get creative and is already copying Vista" comments...eh. I guess it's really not that big a deal.
What I do hope is that the online publishing of photos/ordering of prints filters down to iLife 06. That would save me the hassle of having to order pictures for everybody in my family after events, and would be nice for them to pick what they want...
Wow, those are some dissapointing PB updates. No bump in processing power whatsoever. This has to be a stop-gap update. They will be ramping down production of the PB's while they put in place their new production lines for the Intel PB's. They can't hope to compete for another six months with these machines.
Creative pro's must be drooling at the Quad-Core machine, that thing is a beast!! And I personally will be looking into Aperture which looks absolutely amazing.
Creative pro's must be drooling at the Quad-Core machine, that thing is a beast!! And I personally will be looking into Aperture which looks absolutely amazing.
Hmm.
Apple just decided to replace my powerbook (applecare), and ive yet to ship my computer back to them. They said theyll ship a new one out, once they recieve my old one, am i going to get this model? They said this computer will be right off the production line. And as of 2 days ago when i made the repair i dont think theyd still be making the old models, and already making these.
I want a new one, SUPERDRIVE
and some crazy resolution, apple gave me a dude to ask and help me thorugh my replacement, shouldi ask him, or will it make me sound to happy to get a brand new computer?
Powerbook updates..droolll...
Apple just decided to replace my powerbook (applecare), and ive yet to ship my computer back to them. They said theyll ship a new one out, once they recieve my old one, am i going to get this model? They said this computer will be right off the production line. And as of 2 days ago when i made the repair i dont think theyd still be making the old models, and already making these.
I want a new one, SUPERDRIVE
and some crazy resolution, apple gave me a dude to ask and help me thorugh my replacement, shouldi ask him, or will it make me sound to happy to get a brand new computer?
Powerbook updates..droolll...
this is crap!
$3,299.99 for a Two Dual-core processor system and they still only give you 512MB of RAM???? That's crap!
$3,299.99 for a Two Dual-core processor system and they still only give you 512MB of RAM???? That's crap!
I am sorely disappointed!
The PB upgrade is horrible. I mean, a brighter screen, higher resolution, and better battery life are all good. BUT, what about speed? What about performance? I may as well just get a stupid iBook - they're close enough in speed.
What a joke.
The PB upgrade is horrible. I mean, a brighter screen, higher resolution, and better battery life are all good. BUT, what about speed? What about performance? I may as well just get a stupid iBook - they're close enough in speed.
What a joke.
Powerbook options?
Applestore shows the new superdrives in the powerbooks are in fact dual layer drives. The machines also now use DDR2 and have a 7200 rpm drive upgrade option.
Still disappointed with no speed bump or fsb improvement, but overall not as bad as it initially looked.
Applestore shows the new superdrives in the powerbooks are in fact dual layer drives. The machines also now use DDR2 and have a 7200 rpm drive upgrade option.
Still disappointed with no speed bump or fsb improvement, but overall not as bad as it initially looked.
Does anyone know if the 12" PBs have the Increased Screen Brightness and Battery Life?
Or is it just the 15" & 17" models?
Or is it just the 15" & 17" models?
As a PowerMac user, I am excited that Quadro is available for the PowerMac. This update, especially the Dual Dual-core, is the vindication for both IBM and Apple who promised a significant update before the Intel switch.
As for the PowerBooks, I fully expected that the 7448 isn't available, no matter some in this board said. Blame it on FreeScale or deal with it, whiners.
As for the PowerBooks, I fully expected that the 7448 isn't available, no matter some in this board said. Blame it on FreeScale or deal with it, whiners.
Entry-level PowerMac???
For the love of all that's holy, Apple, can't we get a sub-$1500 PowerMac again??? And I'm going to have to confess to all my idiot PC buddies that I dropped 2 grand and only got 512 megs of RAM and a 160 GB hard drive?
Even some of us Apple "die-hards" are finding PowerMac prices hard to swallow these days. Ugh. Guess I'll be waiting for the Intels, if I can stand to listen to my dual 867 G4 vacuum cleaner that long...
For the love of all that's holy, Apple, can't we get a sub-$1500 PowerMac again??? And I'm going to have to confess to all my idiot PC buddies that I dropped 2 grand and only got 512 megs of RAM and a 160 GB hard drive?
Even some of us Apple "die-hards" are finding PowerMac prices hard to swallow these days. Ugh. Guess I'll be waiting for the Intels, if I can stand to listen to my dual 867 G4 vacuum cleaner that long...
I personally have no need for any of these upgrades. I was hoping for something a little better in the 12" lineup since I will be buying one soon. (Usual sob story there!)
The dual-dual is pretty interesting and should result in some high-intensity apps running smoother than a cheetah over flat ground. Then again, my highest intensity app is iTunes, which runs nice now, anyway.
HD displays are probably going to be very costly, but hopefully they lower the price of the older 'lower-end" displays. And notice that "even the 12-inch PowerBook with 64MB of dedicated graphics memory connects to the 20-inch or 23-inch Cinema Display."
Therefore: no HD display on the 12"
Lastly, it appears the "dual-dual" is officially being referred to as the "quad"
The dual-dual is pretty interesting and should result in some high-intensity apps running smoother than a cheetah over flat ground. Then again, my highest intensity app is iTunes, which runs nice now, anyway.
HD displays are probably going to be very costly, but hopefully they lower the price of the older 'lower-end" displays. And notice that "even the 12-inch PowerBook with 64MB of dedicated graphics memory connects to the 20-inch or 23-inch Cinema Display."
Therefore: no HD display on the 12"
Lastly, it appears the "dual-dual" is officially being referred to as the "quad"