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Hey guys. I didn't mean to stir things up and cause arguments. I was just listing my justifications behind what - to me - was definitely an upgrade.

Like I said, I never used the 3D Touch and I actually regretted "upgrading" from the 6 to the 6S. It could very well be the case that future iOS releases will utilize 3D Touch in a way where I wish I had it, but that hasn't happened yet. And by that time, there will probably be an SE successor.

Anyway, I really do enjoy using the SE more than the 6S. Also forgot to mention that the battery on the SE lasts noticeably longer for me.

With regards to screen resolution and clarity, I honestly didn't notice any difference whatsoever. Sure, the SE screen is smaller, but I got used to it in no time and I don't miss the 6S one bit. Quite the opposite.
 
Hey guys. I didn't mean to stir things up and cause arguments. I was just listing my justifications behind what - to me - was definitely an upgrade.

Like I said, I never used the 3D Touch and I actually regretted "upgrading" from the 6 to the 6S. It could very well be the case that future iOS releases will utilize 3D Touch in a way where I wish I had it, but that hasn't happened yet. And by that time, there will probably be an SE successor.

Anyway, I really do enjoy using the SE more than the 6S. Also forgot to mention that the battery on the SE lasts noticeably longer for me.

With regards to screen resolution and clarity, I honestly didn't notice any difference whatsoever. Sure, the SE screen is smaller, but I got used to it in no time and I don't miss the 6S one bit. Quite the opposite.

After 6 months of usage, I regretted getting the 6S Plus too. My novelty of a big screen phone quickly going downhill and 'optical image stabilization' was another reason I opted for the bigger model. Now having the SE on my hand, I see why people were holding on to their 5/5c/5s and even 4/4S models.
 
Not sure what you're all on about, but his terms were quite clear in the OP. He laid out his criteria in the in bullet points. When you set your criteria, your criteria dictate the results.

I swear, the insecurity of the iPhone forum membership is incredible to behold. The fact that folks would get so riled up at the "audacity" of someone else upgrading to a phone that isn't theirs. Good grief.

One does not "upgrade" by getting a lesser version of a product. OP merely changed to a phone that better suites his needs.
 
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After 6 months of usage, I regretted getting the 6S Plus too. My novelty of a big screen phone quickly going downhill and 'optical image stabilization' was another reason I opted for the bigger model. Now having the SE on my hand, I see why people were holding on to their 5/5c/5s and even 4/4S models.

Sold my 6s plus this morning and now I have a 6 and a SE

The SE will be my main phone.

When I first got the 6 plus I was extremely impressed by it but as the days went it became a nagging monster. It needed constant attention in terms of fitting my trouser pocket, adjustments required in my pocket when sitting down, careful handling when making calls and texting. When I was at home it was a pleasure to use but outside I hated using it.

The SE is a pleasure to use. It’s small, fast and very efficient.
 
The SE is a significant Downgrade, the cheapest iPhone currently being sold. A smart move on Apple's part to attract the low income buyer.
It's already been pointed out in many threads, including this one, that "significant downgrade" is in the eye of the beholder. Why are you (again) poking the bear?
 
The SE is a significant Downgrade, the cheapest iPhone currently being sold. A smart move on Apple's part to attract the low income buyer.

I agree with you it is a smart move on Apple's part to attract the low income buyer.
Everybody needs a phone and since the SE is the best phone more people can enjoy it :)
 
Expressing an opinion. Interesting how that causes others to attack, accuse, or whatever.
Nah, it's not interesting; it's a well-documented and depraved aspect of human nature that you seem to insist on drawing out whenever you're given the opportunity.

This thread's premise is that for the Thread Starter and his needs, the SE is an "upgrade." He documented why he thought as much. Sure, you expressed an opinion; you've certainly shown that you have no shortage of those. However, what you failed to do is give any support as to why you believed as much. Hence, why you've been accused of trolling.

Sadly, throwing fuel to a fire seems more your modus operandi than actually contributing to discussions.
 
I agree with what others have said. It's fine to have an opinion. When one states that the SE is better for them, it's a subjective opinion. There's no need to argue that such people are "wrong." It seems obvious that some are very bothered by the semantics of the word "upgrade." There's no need to argue over this. Yes. In Apple's lineup, the SE is not meant to be on par with the 6S series. That's why they left out a handful of features, in order to differentiate the products. However, it isn't wrong for a person the use the word "upgrade" to describe their own experience and needs, as related between the two phones.

Everyone needs to stop beating a dead horse.
 
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Reading through this thread sorta leaves me thinking that some people care a lot about what others buy...


I agree. Since millions of iPhones have been sold, and only a few in comparison come onto this forum, me thinks its a.......(fill in the blank). I'm happy with mine and you all are happy with yours. Enough said ;)
 
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It would have been an upgrade if you had a 5S. Going from a 6S to a SE is a downgrade.

  • You lose screen size
  • You lose force touch (you are going to kick yourself if iOS 10 adds a bunch of new features that revolve around Force touch)

So when I bought my 2015 MBP to replace a 2008 iMac, was that a downgrade too? :p
 
And I couldn't be happier.

My reasons behind the upgrade:

  • SE is lighter
  • SE is easier to hold and maneuver with one hand (big deal to me, believe it or not)
  • SE is smaller overall, which I always preferred (bigger smartphones remind me of someone holding an iPad up to their ear or people taking photos with iPads, which, to me, looks silly)

I can understand why people may prefer the 6S. However, I personally never found the 6S's extra capabilities any useful. For example, I never liked using 3D touch. Also, I rarely used the front facing camera; the one and only time was in a webex session for work, where the video quality really didn't matter.

In a perfect world, my ideal smartphone would be an iPhone SE that's thinner and with a slightly bigger screen. That is, the phone's overall size would remain the same, but the screen would span to the edges and grow in size only a cm or two.

Totally agree. Rarely used the 3D Touch as too few apps supported it and some of those that do don't give the options that I mainly use. Size fits me perfectly and I get the benefit of the faster processor. I consider it an upgrade also because of it's better usefulness and features that I need and want. Size does not matter to me <grin>. Each to his own. That's what different models and sizes are all about.
 
The SE is a significant Downgrade, the cheapest iPhone currently being sold. A smart move on Apple's part to attract the low income buyer.
Low income buyer? Minus the people holding on to prior generation 4" iPhones most of the buyers of the new SE have had a 6s or 6s plus. These aren't unwarranted opinions based on nothing. Not to mention how many iPhone users probably are using the SE and 6s.
 
Looked at an SE at the apple store today what a little thing it is. I would never give up my plus for one of them.
 
The op made his position very clear..several people have pointed that out. He is not wrong..but those of you who think he is wrong are actually wrong... Is all subjective and he loves his SE. IMHO the better phone is actually the Sony Experia series with a2 day battery life I can make calls a day after this iphone5s had long since died... He likes his SE..leave him alone..
 
I agree with what others have said. It's fine to have an opinion. When one states that the SE is better for them, it's a subjective opinion. There's no need to argue that such people are "wrong." It seems obvious that some are very bothered by the semantics of the word "upgrade." There's no need to argue over this. Yes. In Apple's lineup, the SE is not meant to be on par with the 6S series. That's why they left out a handful of features, in order to differentiate the products. However, it isn't wrong for a person the use the word "upgrade" to describe their own experience and needs, as related between the two phones.

Everyone needs to stop beating a dead horse.
Many also think lastest is better than most expensive, so might consider the SE an upgrade.
 
I bought my SE to serve as the ideal Pocket Phone.

When I don't care about anything other than carrying a tiny limited use phone, my SE is a suitable solution. Nothing matters except it's ability to disappear into a pocket.
 
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I have the 6 and will be getting the 7+ or Pro….'FOR ME' I prefer a bigger screen and since I don't jog, rock climb, etc., I am not too worried about portability. I remember when the 6+ came out and I thought it was gigantic :eek: But now that it's everywhere, I have a hard time telling if someone is carrying the + or not. I ask all my female co-workers with the + if they are ok with the size and all say they can't go back. My mom still has the 5 and when I pick it up, I miss the solid feel and portability of when I had my 5, but I find myself doing more and more on my cell vs. laptop, so bigger is what I'll be going with. Both phones will be upgraded to the +…

Go with what feels right to 'YOU'….it's what makes the world go round :cool:
 
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