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I would consider updating however these issues are a no go for me:
  • Only two cameras
  • The form factor - this is huge for me. I do like the width however the height is a complete non starter for me. I don't know what they are thinking here. The small iphones were a complete failure in terms of sales. There is a small amount of people that want tiny phones in 2026, however they most certainly aren't people who are prepared for pay $2500/£2500/€3000 for a phone. Such an expensive and "ultra" phone, should also be a "tall" phone. Not a very short one.
  • No Magsafe - seriously?! On a £2500 phone, supposedly "ultra" phone?!
  • No face ID - this is a bit less of an issue for me depending on the implementation

I do think this first iteration will be a huge flop. Not as bad as iphone Air which will never take off, but they will have to fix all of these if V2 is ever to be successful.
and people were complaining about the Air’s shortcomings and pricing . . . from what I have been seeing about the upcoming Ultra, I won’t be surprised to see people complaining about this device once it becomes available for purchase. The pricing for this device being one of the biggest complaint for what you’re actually getting. I get it.

Even with these shortcomings, I will pre-order my Ultra in the max storage configuration, cry a little after purchasing it 🤣, then take this device unused and still sealed in it’s packaging and put it into my iPhone collection. I really have no need for one of these but I do recognize a device people will pay $$$$$ for many years later to have a never used never opened Ultra.
 
Probably sticking with my 17pm unless there’s a drastic change in regular 18pm. Not interested in the fold.
 
and people were complaining about the Air’s shortcomings and pricing . . . from what I have been seeing about the upcoming Ultra, I won’t be surprised to see people complaining about this device once it becomes available for purchase. The pricing for this device being one of the biggest complaint for what you’re actually getting. I get it.

Even with these shortcomings, I will pre-order my Ultra in the max storage configuration, cry a little after purchasing it 🤣, then take this device unused and still sealed in it’s packaging and put it into my iPhone collection. I really have no need for one of these but I do recognize a device people will pay $$$$$ for many years later to have a never used never opened Ultra.
You are reseller ?
 
You are reseller ?
I collect iPhones as one of my hobbies.

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No foldables.

If I do upgrade, the story is the same as any other time I responded to one of these threads: I will upgrade to an earlier, but still current model iPhone.
It's crazy as I always upgraded every year then I slowed down and it was about every 2 years (iPhone X, then iPhone 12, then iPhone 14pro max). Now I been sitting on the 14 pro max and I don't see any reason to upgrade to even the 18 when it comes out. Might do like you and just upgrade to a 17 (cheaper when 18 comes out).
 
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It's crazy as I always upgraded every year then I slowed down and it was about every 2 years (iPhone X, then iPhone 12, then iPhone 14pro max). Now I been sitting on the 14 pro max and I don't see any reason to upgrade to even the 18 when it comes out. Might do like you and just upgrade to a 17 (cheaper when 18 comes out).
I returned everything back lol I'm just going to get 18 pro max and save money then get the 20th anniversary lol
 
It's crazy as I always upgraded every year then I slowed down and it was about every 2 years (iPhone X, then iPhone 12, then iPhone 14pro max). Now I been sitting on the 14 pro max and I don't see any reason to upgrade to even the 18 when it comes out. Might do like you and just upgrade to a 17 (cheaper when 18 comes out).
Yeah, we had the money to upgrade in February 2021 (using Pixel 3a XL's at the time), and for what I wanted it would have added $90 to my monthly cellphone bill for 2 years. But I was able to get what I wanted cheaper by buying the previous model.

The rep was really pushing the iPhone 12PM on me at that time, but I stuck to getting the 11PM. And a practical lesson learned for me. You can get exactly what you want for less money if you just buy slightly older.

Now of course, with minimal iterations and advancements year to year, and the fact that I primarily use my devices as phones, getting an older (but still new/current model) isn't such a big deal (to me) anymore.
 
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You asked 😁

Soooo...curious. Why collect iPhones of all things? Especially brand new ones that you will admittedly purchase, leave sealed in their boxes, and then I assume place somewhere in your iPhone display case? Do you not feel a certain amount of weirdness that your hobby robs at least one person the use of said iPhone? I mean, they aren't manufactured to be showpieces and, don't get me wrong, I get the argument that there are YouTube sites that buy them new and put them in blenders, do drop tests, and attempt to mutilate them with varying levels of hardened knives and whatnot right out of the box. Personally I find those sites pretty gross and worthless and almost see you as some sort of anti-them.

Basically, my impulse was to **** on your odd collection hobby, but I've put some thought into it. So the question is why not a YouTube channel of your own? One where you document your journey from purchasing the newest and most expensive iPhone to placing it on the shelf? Basically an anti-unboxing. Sounds click-batey enough to me. Also sounds more interesting than just watching one get destroyed.
 
Soooo...curious. Why collect iPhones of all things? Especially brand new ones that you will admittedly purchase, leave sealed in their boxes, and then I assume place somewhere in your iPhone display case? Do you not feel a certain amount of weirdness that your hobby robs at least one person the use of said iPhone? I mean, they aren't manufactured to be showpieces and, don't get me wrong, I get the argument that there are YouTube sites that buy them new and put them in blenders, do drop tests, and attempt to mutilate them with varying levels of hardened knives and whatnot right out of the box. Personally I find those sites pretty gross and worthless and almost see you as some sort of anti-them.

Basically, my impulse was to **** on your odd collection hobby, but I've put some thought into it. So the question is why not a YouTube channel of your own? One where you document your journey from purchasing the newest and most expensive iPhone to placing it on the shelf? Basically an anti-unboxing. Sounds click-batey enough to me. Also sounds more interesting than just watching one get destroyed.
I don’t expect anyone to understand my hobby and to be perfectly honest I don’t care if some people think this is absolutely crazy or stupid. For one thing it is not your money going into this collection. It is my money and this is something I have been doing from my first iPhone so I have been collecting them rather than trading in like most people do.

You don’t have to agree and that is okay. You can even make negative comments about my collecting these devices but then you’re doing this based on your views not mine. What you see in my 12 mini and 13 mini was started in December when I made the decision to expand on my collection so all the 12 mini’s and 13 mini’s are all pre-owned devices I never purchased brand new. You said your initial impulse was to **** on me for my “odd collection”. Well . . . with regards to that comment, that’s completely on you then and I don’t need anyone’s permission or concurrence to build my collection.

I realize not everyone is into collecting iPhones . . . especially at this scale but that does not mean it is a stupid thing to do. People build collections of their own over time. Look at people who collect stamps, coins or even cars and have themselves a very nice collection. In my case I have built what you see in five months. That includes everything you see inside those shelves. I did this because the devices I have won’t end up in some landfill and will all be maintained in excellent condition as I also maintain their battery health while in storage. At least what I have won't be deliberately destroyed like how some of these YouTubers have done, now I think that is stupid but that is my opinion. Deliberate destruction of a perfect iPhone is what prevents others from having that device. This is not what I am doing here . . .

People have commented regarding my hobbies to make a YouTube channel but that in itself presents more work that honestly I don’t want to put into when I am focusing on these devices, my turbo Porsche, M3 and my John Cooper Works Mini. As for your comment regarding whether or not I feel some kind of weirdness over having my collection by robbing people of having these iPhones . . . obviously already judging me and not knowing anything about me or the condition of these devices I have built my collection on. The majority of what I have were not purchased brand new and were purchased from Amazon.

I don’t need to justify to anyone why I built my collection or how I built it. I just shared this because someone asked if I was a reseller, which I am not. I am a collector building a nice iPhone collection just the way I want it and seeing this collection every time I go into my office brings me extreme satisfaction. At the end of the day that is ALL that matters. If you want to hate on me for having this collection and for other readers of this post, if you want to hate on me, then feel free to put out that negativity. At the end of the day I am free to do what I want with my money and time.

I’m sure you have hobbies but perhaps you don’t have the finances or time to be able to pursue your hobbies to the level I have with my hobbies. As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. This is my point. Don’t hate but appreciate what others have built . . .

One last thing . . . I understand people doing destructive testing on these devices but I find those videos these YouTubers are making just shows just now much they are wasting their money and THEY are the ones you should be upset with as THEY are the ones denying someone a chance of buying a brand new iPhone that they deliberately destroyed to get activity on their videos. The iPhones I have acquired are several years old and discontinued and are found in the “used market”. Those are the ones I have primarily focused on. The Air and 17 Pro I currently have are cycled with my 15 Pro as my daily iPhones.

Yes I will continue buying new iPhones going forward but I can now focus on specific ones rather than buying one every year and for those future purchases I can leave them sealed in their packaging because at this point I can. It is a very nice thing to be in a position like this and I know not everyone is able to get to this point.
 
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I don’t expect anyone to understand my hobby and to be perfectly honest I don’t care if some people think this is absolutely crazy or stupid. For one thing it is not your money going into this collection. It is my money and this is something I have been doing from my first iPhone so I have been collecting them rather than trading in like most people do.

You don’t have to agree and that is okay. You can even make negative comments about my collecting these devices but then you’re doing this based on your views not mine. What you see in my 12 mini and 13 mini was started in December when I made the decision to expand on my collection so all the 12 mini’s and 13 mini’s are all pre-owned devices I never purchased brand new. You said your initial impulse was to **** on me for my “odd collection”. Well . . . with regards to that comment, that’s completely on you then and I don’t need anyone’s permission or concurrence to build my collection.

I realize not everyone is into collecting iPhones, but that does not mean it is a stupid thing to do. People make collections of their own. Look at people who collect stamps or coins and have themselves a nice collection. In my case I have built what you see in five months. That includes everything you see inside those shelves. I did this because the devices I have won’t end up in some landfill and will all be maintained in excellent condition as I also maintain their battery health while in storage.

People have commented regarding my hobbies to make a YouTube channel but that in itself presents more work that honestly I don’t want to put into when I am focusing on these devices, my turbo Porsche, M3 and my John Cooper Works Mini. As for your comment regarding whether or not I feel some kind of weirdness over having my collection by robbing people of having these iPhones . . . obviously already judging me not knowing anything about me or the condition of these devices I have built my collection on. The majority of what I have were not purchased brand new and were purchased from Amazon.

I don’t need to justify to anyone why I built my collection or how I built it. I just shared this because someone asked if I was a reseller, which I am not. I am a collector building a nice iPhone collection just the way I want it and seeing this collection every time I go into my office brings me extreme satisfaction. That is ALL that matters to me. If you want to hate on me for having this collection and for other readers of this post, if you want to hate on me, then feel free to put out that negativity. At the end of the day I am free to do what I want with my money and time.

I’m sure you have hobbies but perhaps you don’t have the finances or time to be able to pursue your hobbies to the level I have with my hobbies. As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. This is my point. Don’t hate but appreciate what others have built..

One last thing . . . I understand people doing destructive testing on these devices but I find making these videos those people are wasting their money and THEY are the ones you should be upset with as THEY are the ones denying someone a chance of buying a brand new iPhone. The iPhones I have acquired are several years old and discontinued and are found on the “used market”. Those are the ones I have primarily focused on. The Air and 17 Pro I currently have are cycled with my 15 Pro as my daily iPhones. Yes I will continue buying new iPhones going forward but I can now focus on specific ones rather than buying one every year and for those future purchases I can leave them sealed in their packaging because at this point I can. It is a very nice thing to be in a position like this.
lets see that porche and m3 im a huge fan lol
 
lets see that porche and m3 im a huge fan lol
I don't mean any disrespect when I answered Jeweller's post above . . . just sharing my thoughts on the subject. It was not my intention to come across with arrogance or disrespect but at the same time let people reading my response know my thought on things, especially a person's hobby. I have also experienced hateful, jealous related comments regarding my M3 project thread on different car forums so seeing this here does not surprise me the slightest. I just won't accept their comments as I don't need their permission or concurrence on how I collect and set up my iPhone collection. I'm not posting to start any arguments and am not going to continue derailing someone's thread just because a person wants to **** on me for what I have built in my collection. Just deal with it and move on if you have nothing positive to say about what I do with my iPhones. If someone has to ask me why or how I went about setting up my collection then feel free to reach out via private message and we can take things off line and not derail a thread. 👍

You want to see the full scope of what I have done to my M3 over the 17 years of ownership feel free to go here to see the full scope of how I approach my hobbies. This is what I do with no explanations or apologies of fulfilling my vision for every hobby I approach. I do this because life is too short and all these things are material things we leave behind when we all die. I intend to enjoy mine so this is what I do. 🙂




If you have any more comments or thoughts, rather than detracting from this thread feel free to send me a private message. I am always happy to engage and answer questions with anyone who reaches out. 👍
 
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I don't mean any disrespect when I answered Jeweller's post above . . . just sharing my thoughts on the subject. It was not my intention to come across with arrogance or disrespect but at the same time let people reading my response know my thought on things, especially a person's hobby. I have also experienced hateful, jealous related comments regarding my M3 project thread.

You want to see the full scope of what I have done to my M3 over the 17 years of ownership feel free to go here to see the full scope of how I approach my hobbies. This is what I do with no explanations or apologies of fulfilling my vision for every hobby I approach. I do this because life is too short and all these things are material things we leave behind when we all die. I intend to enjoy mine so this is what I do. 🙂




If you have any more comments or thoughts, rather than detracting from this thread feel free to send me a private message. I am always happy to engage and answer questions with anyone who reaches out. 👍
holy good god that's a beauty, classic E46 M3 and porche...if u ever were selling reach out please 🙂 im a superfan for the E46 M3
 
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holy good god that's a beauty, classic E46 M3 and porche...if u ever were selling reach out please 🙂 im a superfan for the E46 M3
Funny you said this about my M3 . . . I have local high school kids who drive cars and every time they drive by my house and my M3 is pulled out for a car wash, I see them driving by breaking their necks staring at my M3. Around here I am known as the old guy with the "badass M3" 😁

I really get into my hobbies and enjoy sharing my journey with anyone who cares to reach out. The purpose of forums is to gain information and knowledge, not hide it. And more importantly not spread jealousy and hatred because I have what someone hating on me doesn't have. Again, my thoughts after dealing with a bunch of this same petty BS from other car forums.

To the original poster, sorry about the derail. Time to get back on point . . .
 
I'll be sticking with my iPhone 12 pro max, still able to make calls and text and surf the web so no real need to upgrade. Battery life/Health is still at 87%, so should last a few more years, as long as I can still use it, I'll keep it.
 
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@Macdctr Honestly I'm neither hateful nor jealous (apart from the fact that I always trade my iPhones in and in hindsight would love to have kept them so that I could reminisce with the old ones). At first glance it seemed to me like an odd flex, buying and never using an iPhone. But for sure we all have our hobbies. And I wasn't being sarcastic when I suggested that you start a YouTube channel to document your hobby. I think people would enjoy following your process at the new phone launches as well as getting the backstory with regard to your collection. It's neat that, rather than just purchasing them for unboxing vids or to destroy for clicks, you cherish them as the amazing tech they are.
 
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@Macdctr Honestly I'm neither hateful nor jealous (apart from the fact that I always trade my iPhones in and in hindsight would love to have kept them so that I could reminisce with the old ones). At first glance it seemed to me like an odd flex, buying and never using an iPhone. But for sure we all have our hobbies. And I wasn't being sarcastic when I suggested that you start a YouTube channel to document your hobby. I think people would enjoy following your process at the new phone launches as well as getting the backstory with regard to your collection. It's neat that, rather than just purchasing them for unboxing vids or to destroy for clicks, you cherish them as the amazing tech they are.
No worries! I sent you a private message in response. 👍

I can relate regarding “hindsight” because I went through the same thing when I traded in my Space Grey 5S many years ago so that is why I have retained my iPhones since. Also I have been having a great time building what I now have. I look at building a collection as part of the enjoyment of making a collection entirely yours. 😊
 
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