Upgrading to new iPhone with Apple Watch

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by dedufour41, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. dedufour41 macrumors regular

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    Saw on Apple support pages that they suggest unpairing Apple Watch from previous phone first and then pairing with the new phone.

    Did everyone do this and did it require initial setup as if it's the first time ever wearing it?

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  2. perkedel macrumors 6502a

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    I did this, and yes it did. restored it from backup and back like it was before the phone switched
     
  3. Four oF NINE macrumors 68000

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    In my case it gave me a choice of three Apple watch backups to choose from
     
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    Unless the watch is unpaired first you will not have the watch information in the latest backup.
     
  5. dedufour41 thread starter macrumors regular

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    So then before I get the new iPhone:

    Backup old iPhone to iTunes
    Unpair watch
    Upgrade to new iPhone
    Install backed up data to new iPhone via iTunes
    Pair watch

    This sound right?

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  6. eneisch macrumors 6502a

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    When you backup your current iPhone make sure to create an encrypted backup otherwise you will lose your health data!
     
  7. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Unpair watch first, then make encrypted backup in iTunes
     
  8. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    This is incorrect. The watch is continually and automatically backed up to the iPhone and even if you skip unpairing it before backing up the iPhone, the iPhone backup will still have the latest backup of the watch (usually the same day). What it may not have are information since the automatic backup last occurred. That's why unpairing right before you back up the iPhone is recommended, as that forces the iPhone to perform a last second backup of the watch.

    It's best to unpair the watch before you back up the old iPhone.
     
  9. perkedel macrumors 6502a

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    Unpair watch
    Backup old iPhone to iTunes, check Encrypted is enabled.
    Upgrade to new iPhone
    Install backed up data to new iPhone via iTunes
    Pair watch, choose restore.
     
  10. Julien macrumors G3

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    I backed up before un-pairing and lost 2 active calories. :D If you open Activity app on the iPhone it usually updates from the :apple:Watch. However un-paring first is the safest/latest. While some have reported data taking a while to get to the iPhone I have always found it VERY current. Still better to be safe.
     
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    I in error put the word "latest" in the wrong place. It should have read "Unless the watch is unpaired first you will not have the latest watch information in the your backup. I agree that the watch pretty well is keeping the iPhone updated near real time. Unpairing also get the watch ready to be paired again.
     
  12. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    That's exactly what I wrote. It's best to unpair it right before you back it up as that forces the iPhone to perform a last second backup of the watch. Otherwise, you'll have to content with however long has passed since the automatic backup last occurred. Some members are under the false impression that the iPhone won't have a recent backup of the watch if you neglect to unpair it first.
     
  13. Julien macrumors G3

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    I was agreeing and giving an example of it.;)
     
  14. dedufour41 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the heads up!! :)

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    Thanks a lot everyone, this is very helpful information. You'd think they would have given us watch wearers a better heads up on this.

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  16. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    Ok, so I did it wrong, but it was fixable. Backed up old phone before unpairing, but since this was at the end of the day and I was hardly running laps, it wasn't a huge deal. What was a huge deal was that my health data disappeared (even though I did an encrypted back up on iTunes).

    So, before I threw in the towel, I decided to back up the old phone again, this time to iCloud. I wiped the new phone and restored with the iCloud backup and my health data was back.

    I only had one choice for Watch back up, so I used it. End result was that I lost about 100 calories from my move ring, which kept me from completing the ring by about 80 calories. :(

    But, I had over an hour of exercise and 14 standing hours, so I wasn't harmed there.

    But dang it. There goes my perfect month.

    So, if I were doing it all over again, I'd do like stated above:

    Unpair watch (after completing all rings)
    Back up old phone to iCloud
    Activate new phone and restore with iCloud back up
    Pair watch to new phone (and you'll be asked to restore Watch first)
     
  17. greytmom macrumors 68040

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    By the way, Health data is always encrypted if you do your backups to iCloud. Did not know that, and I'm glad to know it because I prefer not to use iTunes.


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    I saw that, but it looked like you could only restore Health, but not Activity data, by using the 3rd party app.
     
  20. T-Will macrumors 6502a

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    Oh, I missed that detail, I think you're right. :-/
     

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