How is this national security but homelessness and healthcare aren’t?
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...unless they are just bailing out the shareholders in this case, investing while nobody else would.
They learned their marketing lessons from the failed bailouts of the car manufacturing in the US some years ago.
Pity is that they may just be throwing good money after bad.
I am not completely opposed to have government take control of infrastructure that is vital to all people of a country, such as railway. Europe though shows that state controlled companies are usually run very badly, and with the example of railway only worked out if they have stiff competition from the private sector. I am not sure if chip production qualifies as such infrastructure, and how the US will avoid to hinder competition and thus innovation...
This isn't a new situation, your government hasn't given a hoot about the health/social welfare of its citizens for decades.
Ask the last 10 USA presidents - that's not what I have stated.
I've never claimed that healthcare and homelessness aren't. Just because I suggest one thing is important, doesn't mean I say "nothing else matters".
OK, but I think you should talk about it more because in America, when someone says this is national security, they generally don't include things like health, safety, wellness, having a home, having access to water, education. All things that are a huge matter of national security but it's excluded from the conversation and the more we talk about it and include it in the conversation, the sooner this will change
Nope, not the position of the government to tell any business how to operate. The local economies should provide enough incentives to stay. Of course some local governments seems to want to increase tax revenues by raising rates than encouraging businesses to stay.
Your “point” is not relevant to discussion.
Healthcare and national security via guaranteed access to high tech manufacturing are two distinct issues and solving or not solving one has zero bearing on the other.
Fact is you’re in an internet/communications cold war and losing access to your own high tech chip plants is losing the war.
Those things are social welfare. Confusing them with national security (because you’re too afraid to call them what they are) just shows how screwed up things are over there.
It’s OK to have “social welfare” programs. They don’t make you a communist, despite what hard core republicans might want you to believe.
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A lot of the time, social welfare is national security. Think about education. Without robust public education, the nation’s security falters because defense can’t rely on its citizens to use or create technology needed for national security. Same with college and higher education, especially in a world where our greatest rivals provide that kind of education. It threatens to leave us behind
Same applies to tons of things labeled as social welfare. If kids go hungry, they lack the fitness to protect the country and their brains don’t get the nutrients necessary during development. Same with healthcare. And disease prevention. And so many other things
If anything, you can see a lot of America’s decline in the way it’s avoided “social welfare” programs like a dirty word. As if the populace isn’t the most important factor in national security
Everything is linked but doesn’t make it the same thing.
All of those things depend on money to spend, doesn’t mean the budget, education or healthcare is “national security”.
Losing local advanced semiconductor manufacturing has a direct impact on the ability to produce and maintain advanced weapons without the risk of them being back doored or kill switched by an adversary.
Not just for the USA in this case either.
Government running corporations normally I wouldn’t agree with. But there are exceptions to every rule and if no one bails intel out right now, there’s a very high chance they’re gone.
And there is no one else.
Focus, the previous group only wanted to control the people, the current group focuses more on freeing people from the burden of the government’s overreach.
If that’s true why is the national guard in DC and ICE in LA?
Because you can't bomb other countries with homeless people.