I came and read this for the lulz. Thanks OP, like pointed out before Intel is not even supporting 3.0 until next year.
+1. Nobody can reasonably expect Apple to have implemented 3.0 by now.
I came and read this for the lulz. Thanks OP, like pointed out before Intel is not even supporting 3.0 until next year.
1. Apple has not adopted eSATA and dropped the expresscard slot from the smaller notebooks, so it would offer significantly faster transfer rates to/from external drives.+1. Why does everyone want this so badly? The use case is very limited.
Aren't there 3rd party chips that support USB 3.0? Dell, Asus and HP provide USB3.0 in their new laptops for less money as usual. It's not unreasonable to expect Apple to do the same and neither is it unreasonable to ask for USB 3.0 in the first place unless you change laptops every year. I suppose we could use express card add-ons but wait... we don't have that any more.
That's one of the reasons I don't like the UMBP (besides the hideous colors). My MBP has a single USB port on the left, and a single USB port on the right. Now a computer this expensive should have 3 or 4 USB ports, but at least I can use both at the same time FTW
+1. Nobody can reasonably expect Apple to have implemented 3.0 by now.
What's wrong with USB 3.0 on x55/57 chipsets?Here's a nice little story about usb 3.0
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/15/all-usb-30-implementations-not-created-equal/
I also wonder if the rumors of Apple talking to AMD will also speed up full bandwidth USB 3.0 for the mac, since intel is not fully supporting it and probably want to avoid altogether for their Light Peak connection.
What's wrong with USB 3.0 on x55/57 chipsets?
You go from the DMI PCIe lane limitations vs. SB8xx to the fact that Intel doesn't provide USB 3.0 on their chipsets. Please elaborate.http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16641/1/
"Coming in Q1 2010
Intel PM55 is the only chipset supporting Lynnfield processors, which include the current Core i5 and Nehalem-based Core i7 notebook chips. As of now, it is selling for $40 in quantities of 1,000.
Beginning in Q1 2010, Intel plans to launch an additional chipset within the x55 mainstream series (currently just P55) as well we three new x57 chipsets. The HM55 will match the PM55 in regards to price and it will sell for $40 in quantities of 1,000. Overall, this implies that there is not much difference between the two.
The HM57 chipset, as well as QM57 chipset, will both sell for $48 each in quantities of 1,000, while the top of the offer is the QS57 chipset that will sell for $53 in quantities of 1,000. Currently, the GS45 chipset is selling for the same price of $53, but this is a chipset for the Montevina-based Core 2 Duo/Core 2 Quad platform while x55 and x57 versions are tailored for the Calpella-based Core i5 and Core i7 notebook platform.
The x57 generation of chipsets feature support for Intel's new remote PC assistant technology. Most of the chipsets have Active Management Technology (AMT) 6.0 and feature 14 USB 2.0 ports, eights PCIe 2.0 ports (probably als at half speed) and six SATA 3Gb/s ports. On the other hand, the P55 series features 12 USB ports, eight PCIe 2.0 ports at half speed and six SATA 3Gb/s ports."
Thus these chipsets do not implement USB 3.0 ports
Intel won't support USB 3.0 until 2011.
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220700486
"Come on, Intel."
Motherboard manufacturers are currently using a NEC based USB 3.0 controller. Texas Instruments plans on selling their own and ASUS stepped up as well.
I'm pretty sure Gigabyte has USB 3.0 on their mobo\logic boards for a long time now. Asus also has USB 3.0 on their laptops.
You go from the DMI PCIe lane limitations vs. SB8xx to the fact that Intel doesn't provide USB 3.0 on their chipsets. Please elaborate.
Are you running Dual GPUs on your MacBook Pro?
Accept the limitations of the x55/57 derivatives or go X58, etc.The point is that Intel is not supporting USB 3.0. They put PCI-e 2.0 on the chipset, but they are only using PCI-e 1.0 speeds. The first article might be incorrect to a point about the x58 chipset running at Full bandwidth for USB 3.0, since Intel limits the bandwidth. I'm sure someone can find a way to mod that and make their PCI-e bus run at full bandwidth. The stuff about Asus and Gigabyte in the article is just an example on how they are trying to utilize USB 3.0 in an expensive way, but still cannot guarantee full USB 3.0 spec bandwidth.
I believe you're confusing this with onboard USB 3.0 support. AMD has no native onboard USB 3.0 support on the SB8xx series.This may be another reason for the Apple and AMD rumors, I think AMD has full USB 3.0 implementation on their chipsets (890GX ?). Apple is kind of restricted in what they can do if they use only Intel chips.