This is the biggest load of crap I've heard.
The future is now.
Embrace it.
They were right to do all of those things you just mentioned - Especially get rid of the optical drive.
You're living in the paaaaast mannnn.
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USB-C in 12-Inch MacBook Adds Limitations but Opens Up Possibilities
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The future is now.
Embrace it.
They were right to do all of those things you just mentioned - Especially get rid of the optical drive.
You're living in the paaaaast mannnn.
My 2011 13-inch unibody Macbook Pro has Thunderbolt, Firewire and 2 x USB ports, not to mention 1Gb wired ethernet, optical drive, and SD card reader.
I love magsafe and until I read your post thought it was crazy getting rid of it. You make a valid point.
However, my 2014 MBP on battery takes an age to backup (generally have 50gb / day of data) so for some of us losing the mag will be a pain (I appreciate I'm in the minority)
I read most of the post in this thread, and I must say there is a lot of nonsense. Here's a summary with analysis of what most of you folks have been saying...
1) The 2015 MacBook is THE FUTURE, and sometimes we need to carry folks kicking and screaming to that FUTURE.
REALITY CHECK: Is 480p video, a very lackluster dual-core CPU, limited RAM/HD options really "the future"?
2) Why couldn't Apple make a MagSafe version of the USB-C connector?
ANSWER: Because it wouldn't be an industry standard USB-C connector now would it?
3) Why differentiate it as "MacBook" from the AIR and PRO?
ANSWER: Because if the MacBook line flops, you still have the AIR and PRO. Apple is playing it safe by breaking notebooks into 3 families.
4) Why are we all here reading, commenting and complaining?
ANSWER: Because we all still want something more than Apple's current offerings, and we hope that a new machine will satisfy at least some of our wants. But the new MacBook dissatisfies about as much as it satisfies.
5) Is a missing SD Card slot really "The Future"?
ANSWER: Although Apple wants us to pay for iCloud photo storage, that will not replace your camera which uses an SD Card. When on a shoot (as a non-pro, shots of my kids), I may want to remove the SD and plop it into my spanking new super-portable computer for a quick check. And yet, no one wants a dongle to accomplish that. You would be better off with a MB PRO in that case, which is rather silly because parents shooting photos of kids are NOT Pros, we're more of the el-cheapo audience that Apple hoped the MacBook would appeal to.
6) What is THE REAL FUTURE of Apple NoteBooks?
ANSWER: As a few wise people in this thread have mentioned already, WIRELESS CHARGING. Apple will ultimately need to severe all cords entirely. Even so, I still think that "memory slots" (for SD cards) can and should survive in such a "wire free" future. SD cards with WiFi aren't a perfect solution for everyone. Furthermore, as long as some flavor of WINDOWS exists, we Mac users may need to have the necessary ports to access devices and content used by our cable-loving friends from Redmond. Therefore, a truly wireless future (Windows included) may take another 20 years. That's a long wait, folks. And Apple ditching ports isn't necessarily going to speed that process along like it did with the death of the floppy.
7) So what should we all do that this point?
ANSWER: We should be eagerly awaiting a Skylake MBP and hope all the ports and slots are still there, yet a tad lighter, thinner, and with better battery life, and selling at a lower cost than now, reflecting the industry-wide decline in FLASH MEMORY prices. Throw in a MBP "gold" option to tickle us pink, er... gold. It's not like we're going to get our gold fix on the Apple Watch!
1) The 2015 MacBook is THE FUTURE, and sometimes we need to carry folks kicking and screaming to that FUTURE.
REALITY CHECK: Is 480p video, a very lackluster dual-core CPU, limited RAM/HD options really "the future"?
2) Why couldn't Apple make a MagSafe version of the USB-C connector?
ANSWER: Because it wouldn't be an industry standard USB-C connector now would it?
3) Why differentiate it as "MacBook" from the AIR and PRO?
ANSWER: Because if the MacBook line flops, you still have the AIR and PRO. Apple is playing it safe by breaking notebooks into 3 families.
4) Why are we all here reading, commenting and complaining?
ANSWER: Because we all still want something more than Apple's current offerings, and we hope that a new machine will satisfy at least some of our wants. But the new MacBook dissatisfies about as much as it satisfies.
5) Is a missing SD Card slot really "The Future"?
ANSWER: Although Apple wants us to pay for iCloud photo storage, that will not replace your camera which uses an SD Card. When on a shoot (as a non-pro, shots of my kids), I may want to remove the SD and plop it into my spanking new super-portable computer for a quick check. And yet, no one wants a dongle to accomplish that. You would be better off with a MB PRO in that case, which is rather silly because parents shooting photos of kids are NOT Pros, we're more of the el-cheapo audience that Apple hoped the MacBook would appeal to.
6) What is THE REAL FUTURE of Apple NoteBooks?
ANSWER: As a few wise people in this thread have mentioned already, WIRELESS CHARGING. Apple will ultimately need to severe all cords entirely. Even so, I still think that "memory slots" (for SD cards) can and should survive in such a "wire free" future. SD cards with WiFi aren't a perfect solution for everyone. Furthermore, as long as some flavor of WINDOWS exists, we Mac users may need to have the necessary ports to access devices and content used by our cable-loving friends from Redmond. Therefore, a truly wireless future (Windows included) may take another 20 years. That's a long wait, folks. And Apple ditching ports isn't necessarily going to speed that process along like it did with the death of the floppy.
7) So what should we all do that this point?
ANSWER: We should be eagerly awaiting a Skylake MBP and hope all the ports and slots are still there, yet a tad lighter, thinner, and with better battery life, and selling at a lower cost than now, reflecting the industry-wide decline in FLASH MEMORY prices. Throw in a MBP "gold" option to tickle us pink, er... gold. It's not like we're going to get our gold fix on the Apple Watch!
Please don't dictate to me what I should learn....you're not my mother!
Your example is poor and I know exactly what a contradiction is without the need for your to explain in brackets. A better example would have been 'The towering midget'!
Depending on how the title is read, it could be seen as a contradiction. There could have been a better way to describe.
see my post earlier
I think this is regulation. The EU is forcing device manufacturers to adopt a single charging interface. Thus is why all other smartphones are charged via USB. Frankly, I don't understand how Apple got away with the lightning cable on the iPhone 6. because the other end is USB? Perhaps.
Too bad about the MagSafe, if it is going away - why not give the IP up so it could be the new standard instead? Or perhaps the USB-C standard guys were not up for that idea...
I think this is regulation. The EU is forcing device manufacturers to adopt a single charging interface. Thus is why all other smartphones are charged via USB. Frankly, I don't understand how Apple got away with the lightning cable on the iPhone 6. because the other end is USB? Perhaps.
Too bad about the MagSafe, if it is going away - why not give the IP up so it could be the new standard instead? Or perhaps the USB-C standard guys were not up for that idea...
Apple should make a tiny USB-C to MagSafe adaptor. You could leave it in the side of the Macbook to bring back some of the functionality that has been lost.
Actually they badly need to reduce the size of all their USB-C adapters.
What is the point of having a sleek, super-thin aluminium laptop, when you need a massive white plastic brick hanging out of the side of it, just so you can perform basic computing tasks like using a flash drive.
What if someone hands you an SD card to download some photos? Oh just hang on a sec while I disconnect my charger, plug in this usb adaptor brick... plug my sd card reader into that, then plug the power adaptor for the sd card reader into mains, then pop in the sd card into the reader... and we are away.
Talk about portability
Actually they badly need to reduce the size of all their USB-C adapters.
What is the point of having a sleek, super-thin aluminium laptop, when you need a massive white plastic brick hanging out of the side of it, just so you can perform basic computing tasks like using a flash drive.
What if someone hands you an SD card to download some photos? Oh just hang on a sec while I disconnect my charger, plug in this usb adaptor brick... plug my sd card reader into that, then plug the power adaptor for the sd card reader into mains, then pop in the sd card into the reader... and we are away.
Talk about portability
Please, tell us more about how having two or three USB-C ports - or even a USB3 port on the other side - would "hinder" portability.
If there's one thing I'm becoming more confident of reading these threads, it's that all the people talking how awesome the new Macbook is for people after ultraportables, have little interest in ultraportables themselves nor understanding of what the people who buy them want.
That's right. I am absolutely not ready for a notebook that only has ONE port to connect external devices and does not even come with a docking station. I spend 13+ hours per week on the train and I don't even know how many hours I am working in the server room, but I certainly spend even more hours per week at my desk.
I disagree, but I think that the adapter should have had two or more usb c !
The battery is so good on these things you don't need power often but if you do and need to use multiple ports and drives and external screens you are probably sat at a desk.
He's talking about the 2008 Macbook (not Macbook Pro). There was a single iteration of the Macbook with the unibody enclosure before Apple rebranded it to the Macbook Pro.
And indeed, there was no firewire, HDMI, or just about anything. Connecting any peripherals was such a PIA that I told myself I would never buy another computer with minimal ports again -- ever.
And I won't.
You're absolutely right and at the end of my post I also made it clear that these knock offs weren't safe and potentially catch fire.
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Queuing USB-C Magsafe converter on Kickstarter in 5...4...3...
For people who are hating on the new macbook, thats ok. I do too. Its made for people with extra portability need built in mind.
I will be upset if they do the same with the "Pro" models. As long as the Pro models exist with all necessary ports, everyone is happy.
I will be upset if they do the same with the "Pro" models. As long as the Pro models exist with all necessary ports, everyone is happy.
It does have another USB-C port instead of a magnetic magsafe one. What else do you need?
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I think they're only putting emphasis on the fact that you can mirror your stuff to your TV, not saying that you can't run a dual monitor setup.
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Impossible. Magsafe is patented.
So let me get this straight. Without any adapter/dongle/hub, you can't use any external device while the MacBook is plugged in? That's a new level of 'thinnerness' extremity by Apple there. Bravo. And I doubt it will stop there. XD
Third parties can (and probably will) build adapters will multiple USB-C sockets.
That's possibly the best thing about USB-C - anyone will be allowed to build compatible chargers. Apple doesn't control it like it does Magsafe.
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Due to lack of space, I guess, and a desire for minimalism.
The original MacBook Air only had a single USB socket, too. The second generation added a second USB port.
I'd like to see them switch the headphone jack and replace it with a second USB-C. USB-C headphones, anyone?
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When does the Magsafe patent expire?
I bet apple won't solve this mystery before MB ships: "Native DisplayPort 1.2 video output". Mysteries add interest to the product, which increase sales.
Oh shoot, then we are on mercy of Apple. They could come up with one inch typeC cable that breaks in half in the middle by MagSafe. We know that Apple can explain to customers that this is rocket science since there's 5Gb signal inside and it will cost hundred bucks. "Technically 5Gb MagSafe is so hard to make that no one has ever done it!" (...because we have the patent...)
UAB 3.1 huh ? neat...
But that's my attached USB dongle says now.
And if u still need proof : http://www.usb.org/developers/ssusb
But that's my attached USB dongle says now.
And if u still need proof : http://www.usb.org/developers/ssusb
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I agree with the machine having to have at least 2 ports, but getting rid of the 3.5.... no way. That has to stay. Bluetooth is great and all but the sound quality still sucks compared to a wired headset. Also not everyone wants to spend alot on bt headsets or use BT headsets. A good pair like bluebuds x will run you about 120+. Most cheaper options are really crappy.
You could photoshop 3 if you want but that would mean a change in the logic board design.
Unless you think they wanted ONLY one port.
Except Apple was the only company offering TB. TypeC is already in some laptops and tablets. Next year it will be on every new tablet. Sold ports will reach a billion in few years, because there's no alternative. This is the new gen usb, industry standard. Not something fancy that apple developed and will try to get industry standard in a few years. Have you seen lots of usb1.1 devices sold lately?