Ordered a refurb 512GB/Cellular 10.5" this afternoon. I don't need another pile of cables. I have seven Apple products. None of them have USB-C ports. I want a Home button so I can turn the pad on when I want it to come on and not when it thinks I want it to come on. None of the earbuds since the original round ones fit my ears, so I want an earphone jack. It should be a nice bump from my Air 1.
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USB-C Instead of Lightning Again Rumored for Upcoming iPad Pro Models
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The USB-C connector will support USB 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps) or Gen 2 (10 Gbps), but not Thunderbolt 3.
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No it’s true. It’s smaller, I only ever use it for power on my iDevices anyway, and USBc connectors loosen over time on my macs.
Ah I hope so. It’s a joke the latest phones didn’t have it. Include a damn adaptor for one round. Yah know? Be BRAVE. Idiots.
No more dongles! Give us both lightning and usb-c ports and a headphone jack. For a thousand bucks, they can afford it.
I’m not buying a new iPad if I need one dongle for my headphones, another to charge it with my phone cable, plus the one I already have to use so I can plug my headphones into my phone.
Portable devices shouldn’t require an arsenal of adapters for basic function.
I’m not buying a new iPad if I need one dongle for my headphones, another to charge it with my phone cable, plus the one I already have to use so I can plug my headphones into my phone.
Portable devices shouldn’t require an arsenal of adapters for basic function.
Either you're very forgetful or getting completely ripped off. I get the sets off amazon and have no issues. I'd get the new pro as I could save space and just charge it with my MacBook pro's charger.
pressing home button, or touch to come on...whats the difference? So from all of your seven Apple products none its an mac ?
I think you just came here to justify your purchase...its a very good product the 10.5" but for the same price, next month you could buy a far better one..but of course since you bought yours from refurb...it will be a price difference
The phones will probably have USB-C next year. I mean, they have to start some time. If they had started with the phones then one would have the same complaint, albeit for a shorter duration if one purchases a new iPad Pro. There's going to be unavoidable overlap at some point...
Please let me plug my 2TB SSD with USB-C into this thing! I’ve been thinking about shelling out to Adobe to store my full sized photo library in their cloud but I’d rather not. So much faster to work locally on both Mac and iPad. I wouldn’t need it all the time, just to grab the full res version as right now I’m only storing lower res in the cloud. It would be nice when traveling to dump to the iPad and then transfer to the SSD.
Secondly I want to use this as a second display for my MacBook Pro and gives even more reason to buy the larger 12.9” size.
Third it would be nice to just be able to plug my Sony a7R III mirrorless camera right into this thing directly. Other USB accessories as well, such as instruments for musicians.
Fourth, and this is the most outlandish of them all, I want to be able to plug this into an external display and have it transform iOS into a sort of macOS Lite interface that is more mouse friendly. The iPad itself could be used as a keyboard and trackpad, or you could optionally use real ones using BT. That would be insane. Project Marzipan could be leveraged as part of this, which might be why Apple only gave us a sneak peak and it wasn’t ready for us yet. Makes sense for it to work both ways! More portable code between OS types and swappable interfaces. Not a full merge of iOS and macOS either. They’re looking more similar every year anyway. It’s more of a change, when docked, at the UI level only to speed up workflow. Pretty unlikely this will happen, but man I’d love it.
With the iPhone at 512GB now, who thinks we’ll see the first iOS device to crack 1TB with the new iPad Pro?
Secondly I want to use this as a second display for my MacBook Pro and gives even more reason to buy the larger 12.9” size.
Third it would be nice to just be able to plug my Sony a7R III mirrorless camera right into this thing directly. Other USB accessories as well, such as instruments for musicians.
Fourth, and this is the most outlandish of them all, I want to be able to plug this into an external display and have it transform iOS into a sort of macOS Lite interface that is more mouse friendly. The iPad itself could be used as a keyboard and trackpad, or you could optionally use real ones using BT. That would be insane. Project Marzipan could be leveraged as part of this, which might be why Apple only gave us a sneak peak and it wasn’t ready for us yet. Makes sense for it to work both ways! More portable code between OS types and swappable interfaces. Not a full merge of iOS and macOS either. They’re looking more similar every year anyway. It’s more of a change, when docked, at the UI level only to speed up workflow. Pretty unlikely this will happen, but man I’d love it.
With the iPhone at 512GB now, who thinks we’ll see the first iOS device to crack 1TB with the new iPad Pro?
The nice thing about lightning is that when you see it, you know an external device will work with iOS.
Right now you can buy a lightning to usb 3 adapter. You can then use the adapter to plug in a normal usb device...... except that device may work (camera/card readers/keyboards/microphone/some ethernet adapters) or it may not (external hard drives/flash drives/webcams.)
Look at the reviews on apple’s own web store for the lightning to usb 3 adapter, there is lots of confusion over what devices will work and what will not with the adapter.
For the tech savvy, they can do done research and figure out if a device will work with the built in iOS drivers, but lots of people get confused.
Other than outputting video directly, is there anything usb-c can do better than the current lightning port? (Could they just update the lightning to av adapter for 4K hdmi support?). Could they simply release lighting to thunderbolt 3/usb-c dongle?
Right now you can buy a lightning to usb 3 adapter. You can then use the adapter to plug in a normal usb device...... except that device may work (camera/card readers/keyboards/microphone/some ethernet adapters) or it may not (external hard drives/flash drives/webcams.)
Look at the reviews on apple’s own web store for the lightning to usb 3 adapter, there is lots of confusion over what devices will work and what will not with the adapter.
For the tech savvy, they can do done research and figure out if a device will work with the built in iOS drivers, but lots of people get confused.
Other than outputting video directly, is there anything usb-c can do better than the current lightning port? (Could they just update the lightning to av adapter for 4K hdmi support?). Could they simply release lighting to thunderbolt 3/usb-c dongle?
USB-C did not deliver at all on the promise of general universal standard interface. I would caution a first buy on any USB-C implementation regarding the mess USB-C has created - and any manufacture of equipment is to blame.
Apple itself is a very rude acting handler of the USB-C protocols/implementations, which many incompatibilities and instabilities reported since their introduction with the 2015 Macbook models regarding discreet hardware, docks and dongles.
There is hardly any reliable compatibility between chipsets, cables, implementations in software handling. You have to test each individual implementation and use case to see if it acts reliable. And most of the time it´s very expensive to get it right. I wonder if that is a possible explanation for it´s bad performance to date.
Apple itself is a very rude acting handler of the USB-C protocols/implementations, which many incompatibilities and instabilities reported since their introduction with the 2015 Macbook models regarding discreet hardware, docks and dongles.
There is hardly any reliable compatibility between chipsets, cables, implementations in software handling. You have to test each individual implementation and use case to see if it acts reliable. And most of the time it´s very expensive to get it right. I wonder if that is a possible explanation for it´s bad performance to date.
Is it possible to keep Lightning port with USB-C protocol though? I mean Lightning port used to be a USB 2.0 on the other end, then it was improved to USB 3.0 started with iPhone 7. Can they do the same with USB-C? In the box Apple could’ve included a Lightning to USB-C cable and charger, and also the adapter for female USB-C port.
This will also benefit newer iPhones, so that the new iPad buyers can also use the cable for iPhone fast charging with no additional cost. That would be the most sensible move by Apple.
It is hard to imagine that Apple would finally let go the Lightning port for something universal like USB-C. Especially on an iOS device, which is their bread and butter. And also for the sake of design consistency, why giving iPad and iPhone a different port? How about those Lightning earpods that should work across all iOS hardwares?
This will also benefit newer iPhones, so that the new iPad buyers can also use the cable for iPhone fast charging with no additional cost. That would be the most sensible move by Apple.
It is hard to imagine that Apple would finally let go the Lightning port for something universal like USB-C. Especially on an iOS device, which is their bread and butter. And also for the sake of design consistency, why giving iPad and iPhone a different port? How about those Lightning earpods that should work across all iOS hardwares?
The same here- are you gonna go with the similar sized one or going for the bigger size again?
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I agree, it would create a big mess, but I believe they could do it. Aligning the iPad more alongside the MacBooks than the iPhone.
By the way, October 30th is the date.
I’m surprised Macrumors hasn’t reported that event announcement yet.
I’m surprised Macrumors hasn’t reported that event announcement yet.
As an alternative to a Mac Mini media center?
It could also be usefull for business presentations.
Charging and Headphones; I wouldn't get too excited yet.
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They'll sell you one
"which would further bridge the gap between mobile device and computer"
That's a stupid argument for the people of the Android/PC galaxy.
Technically argued, however, the interface is actually interesting for certain applications (video 8K@60Hz).
I consider that first the MacMini Pro presented October 30th might be equipped with it.
https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/usb-c-vs-lightning-3666439/
A disadvantage for Apple and us would be that all PC freaks with crooked hardware scream for world market hardware drivers and thus may weaken OS security. I can live with the current compatibility "gap", it ensures our technical system security.
That's a stupid argument for the people of the Android/PC galaxy.
Technically argued, however, the interface is actually interesting for certain applications (video 8K@60Hz).
I consider that first the MacMini Pro presented October 30th might be equipped with it.
https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/usb-c-vs-lightning-3666439/
A disadvantage for Apple and us would be that all PC freaks with crooked hardware scream for world market hardware drivers and thus may weaken OS security. I can live with the current compatibility "gap", it ensures our technical system security.
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Imagine -using an ipad with apple pencil instead of a wacom for post in something like lightroom/ ps.
I'm interested to see what the new iPad Pro is, but I'm very happy with my current 10.9. Touch ID = <3 and my Pro is fast enough as it is.
Don't need USB-C, if Face ID and USB-C with smaller bezels are selling point of these devices, eh. Especially how inconvenient Face ID is.
Oh and the possibility of removal of the jack? I can let that slide on my XS Max, but my iPad too? HECCCKK NAW.
Don't need USB-C, if Face ID and USB-C with smaller bezels are selling point of these devices, eh. Especially how inconvenient Face ID is.
Oh and the possibility of removal of the jack? I can let that slide on my XS Max, but my iPad too? HECCCKK NAW.