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Naturally the required cables look exactly like all the other cables so you never know what's going to work.
so u want a different connector at every new version? Because the connector enclosure and cable sheath its something decided by the cable manufacturer. While the only thing that have to remain the same its the connector. u can get a white usb4 cable like the one in photo above, and a usb 1.0 with diamonds on it. ah, sorry, u buy cables only at apple store so all your cables are white and looks the same :)
 
As for potential future connectivity, if the EU (amongst other countries) mandate USB-C as the connection standard it would certainly make iPhones interesting as cameras because users would finally be able to transfer 4k or 8k footage at speed off the phone as well as potentially charge at high speeds (at the potential risk of battery health?).
Lightning already charges about as fast as Apple probably wants (up to 27 watts). There are phones that charge at 50+ watts but it's not likely Apple wants to get there. USB-C iPhones I predict will charge up to 30 watts which is where the iPads with USB-C are at, only 3 more watts.

Battery health is okay with fast charging, they just make sure to check the temperatures and ensure the charging rate isn't high when the phone is hot. And they slow down charging as the battery percent gets higher.

Is there any way to distinguish USB-C cables from one another? Which cable supports PD at what wattage? Which is a 5/10/20/40 Gbps cable?

And which ones are TB3/4?
Usually there are labels but you have to understand the labels. If they say SS and they have the USB logo, they are probably 5 Gbps USB 3.x gen 1 cables. If they say SS10, they are probably 3.x gen 2 cables (3.1 or 3.2, they are the same when gen 1 or gen 2). If they say SS20, then it's 3.2 gen 2x2.

Thunderbolt cables need the Thunderbolt logo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)#/media/File:Thunderbolt_Symbol.svg

So if you see the Thunderbolt logo you will know it's a Thunderbolt cable.

The PD rating is split between 60 watts, 100 watts, and 240 watts cables. You pretty much have to look at the manufacturer's website, packaging, or some review somewhere to see its PD rating, or you just test it out yourself. A cable might also say on it how many watts it has. 240 watts cables are brand new and just came out and not too many devices use more than 100 watts for the time being so you can discount needing 240 watts yet.

The big problem is how you can't easily get all the features in one cable, including Thunderbolt, and you sacrifice something to get all the features or you pay a lot of money. Apple's passive .8 m Thunderbolt cable has all the features (and being passive supports the new 80 Gbps mode) but it's only .8 m, Apple's 1.8 m cable costs $130 and it appears it won't support 80 Gbps because it's active and not certified for the new 80 Gbps mode, same for the 3m cable which is more expensive at $160.
 
"PCIe data tunneling"
I wonder if we will ever be able to use this for an eGPU enclosure with Apple Silicon
No. Thunderbolt also supports pcie tunelling. The problem is macOS needs a driver for the pcie device that you tunnel. And apple has not released any arm64 drivers for Radeon gpus and that is why they don’t work with Apple silicon. If you connect an egpu enclosure to an Apple silicon Mac, The pcie tunneling works, but there’s no driver for the pcie gpu device.
 
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Side question: Is there an app which can identify the capabilities of a USB-C cable?

As-in, I plug in a cable, and the app tells me the data rate, power levels, and display support in an easy to read chart or something?

(I know this would likely depend on the port I'm plugging it into, but I'm hoping there's something out there that might work with the latest MacBooks, for example)
 
I don't understand why people struggle with naming conventions.

It's not that difficult. Or maybe it's just needing something to complain about for the day?

That said, I'm looking forward to the speed increase using passive cables.
Can you point us to where people were saying it's not difficult?

It's a rhetorical question, we know you're exaggerating and trolling. But seriously, it's really overwhelming to remember the slight differences. However, most of you... well actually damn near all of you Mac users don't do anything that intense to even warrant the fastest USB speeds anyway. The general consumer is going to be just fine with plain USB 3.0 speeds copying photos of their cat for grandma. Most of this 'OMG, USB 4.0 2x2 gen2, so fast!' is just forum tech nerd posturing.
 
Good enough to earn a name USB5. USB4 version 2.0 is weird.
 
JFC. half the point of making USB4 to begin with was to do away with the ridiculous hodgepodge of USB versions and they literally go right back to the same thing. Somebody didnt get the memo.
 
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As a techie, the list here is insane and even worse for regular consumers. It allows for deceptive marketing by companies getting to make their cables seem like the newer/better ones, and is also a mouthful for no good reason.
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As somebody who built a handful of computers last year, I must sheepishly admit that I had no idea that USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 were USB 3.2, and my mind is blown.
 
Could just call it USB 5 and move away from this daft situation we are in with multiple things being called the same thing.
Exactly… 6E , HDMI 2.1, and the rest - these consortiums, groups, and whatever, whomever… need to stop playing games. It is as if it is harder to count than to remember number /letter combinations and variations, and understand them.
 
“What cable is the Ultimate Answer for Power, Data, and Everything?”
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Darn it, now I have to do that whole “calculate what the question for the answer wa…”
USB

… that… that still doesn’t help at all.
 
So how will this USB 2 v2.0 standard compare to Thunderbolt 3 (or are we at 4?) in terms of real-life speed rather than theoretical?
 
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