Some of us were chatting in a thread and it was suggested that this discussion should be spun off to a designated thread. This is meant to be a broad discussion for the greater MR photography population.
As AI becomes more normalized, we'd like to have a place to talk about how we wish our MR group to handle AI photos in threads. To be honest, I don't personally count them as photographs, but I am using that term for the sake of discussion. If someone has a better, more accurate term, I am happy to update my post.
There are purists among us who believe a photo is taken by a camera, with a specific subject (even if abstract), composition is decided, settings are decided (and it's okay if the camera decides for you, a la a point and shoot camera), and regardless of whether an image is "good" or not (by whatever arbitrary standards one uses to judge photos), a photo must originate from some sort of camera box - something we physically hold in our hands that records light and returns a photograph, whether digital or film.
Some people may be okay with a photograph that is enhanced by some sort of AI, perhaps extending the canvas, adding in a sky, the use of generative fill. (Please note, sometimes people do this manually with older Photoshop tools, ie, clone, content aware - do those also need to be disclosed? Is it AI only if you are using the full generative option in photo editors?)
Further on the scale, there will be people who believe that use of an AI prompt to largely or fully generate a photo is okay given a certain set of circumstances. As an example, you might take a photo of a toddler on a bench holding a book, then generate a background to make it appear as if the toddler was Belle from Beauty in the Beast reading a book in the forest. There was a true photographic element to start with, but the intent of the photo was created with AI.
All the way in, some people may create an entire photograph solely through the use of prompts and a generator.
I would like to facilitate a healthy discussion as to what the overall group feels is approriate for the use of AI thoughout our photo threads, including, but not limited to, the POTD thread and weekly challenge threads. I've created a poll which I am certain will not even begin to outline the scenarios we might encounter here. I'd prefer a discussion overall, but thought maybe having a springboard of options would be helpful for the discussion. You may vote for multiple options as this is an open-ended discussion.
If we can come to a consensus as a group, we can propose a set of guidelines for mods to outline (or work with them in the framework of MR's stance) so that all current and future participants in this group will have a list of standards.
As AI becomes more normalized, we'd like to have a place to talk about how we wish our MR group to handle AI photos in threads. To be honest, I don't personally count them as photographs, but I am using that term for the sake of discussion. If someone has a better, more accurate term, I am happy to update my post.
There are purists among us who believe a photo is taken by a camera, with a specific subject (even if abstract), composition is decided, settings are decided (and it's okay if the camera decides for you, a la a point and shoot camera), and regardless of whether an image is "good" or not (by whatever arbitrary standards one uses to judge photos), a photo must originate from some sort of camera box - something we physically hold in our hands that records light and returns a photograph, whether digital or film.
Some people may be okay with a photograph that is enhanced by some sort of AI, perhaps extending the canvas, adding in a sky, the use of generative fill. (Please note, sometimes people do this manually with older Photoshop tools, ie, clone, content aware - do those also need to be disclosed? Is it AI only if you are using the full generative option in photo editors?)
Further on the scale, there will be people who believe that use of an AI prompt to largely or fully generate a photo is okay given a certain set of circumstances. As an example, you might take a photo of a toddler on a bench holding a book, then generate a background to make it appear as if the toddler was Belle from Beauty in the Beast reading a book in the forest. There was a true photographic element to start with, but the intent of the photo was created with AI.
All the way in, some people may create an entire photograph solely through the use of prompts and a generator.
I would like to facilitate a healthy discussion as to what the overall group feels is approriate for the use of AI thoughout our photo threads, including, but not limited to, the POTD thread and weekly challenge threads. I've created a poll which I am certain will not even begin to outline the scenarios we might encounter here. I'd prefer a discussion overall, but thought maybe having a springboard of options would be helpful for the discussion. You may vote for multiple options as this is an open-ended discussion.
If we can come to a consensus as a group, we can propose a set of guidelines for mods to outline (or work with them in the framework of MR's stance) so that all current and future participants in this group will have a list of standards.
