Paypal's very lax when in comes to buyers. A buyer can simply state that a product was not as described and literally give an excuse as petty as "it was dirtier than the picture showed it to be" and that would be good enough. I've filed a few paypal claims, that's what the rep's explained to me, it really does come down to satisfaction even though it's not explicitly stated. As far as the OP, you shouldn't feel too bad backing out of the sale, the buyer can always send a second chance offer to the 2nd or 3rd highest bidder. At the ~$900 price range, it's likely you won by $5, so it's really no big moral quandry.
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Paypal's very lax when in comes to buyers. A buyer can simply state that a product was not as described and literally give an excuse as petty as "it was dirtier than the picture showed it to be" and that would be good enough. I've filed a few paypal claims, that's what the rep's explained to me, it really does come down to satisfaction even though it's not explicitly stated. As far as the OP, you shouldn't feel too bad backing out of the sale, the buyer can always send a second chance offer to the 2nd or 3rd highest bidder. At the ~$900 price range, it's likely you won by $5, so it's really no big moral quandry.
I don't feel bad at all. This is my hard earned money that I'm spending. He can always put the laptop back up. He won't give me bad feedback because I already spoke to him and came to terms about it.
Big whoop. I'm sure he's gonna sell the laptop with or without me. I'm the one risking it more than he is, so I think I made the right choice.
Like I already said, soooo f*ckin what? And If i was to pay for the laptop because I'm "hanging the seller out to dry" and then get a faulty laptop, I'll be the one ******** over. No thanks
Nice attitude, if you had no intention of paying for the item you should have exercised some restraint and not even placed a bid. I think you wasting the sellers time is BS, I'm sure you will get your karmic reward back tenfold. If you ever sell anything on eBay you will get severely screwed around because thats about all someone with an attitude like yours deserves. Have a nice life
Nice attitude, if you had no intention of paying for the item you should have exercised some restraint and not even placed a bid. I think you wasting the sellers time is BS, I'm sure you will get your karmic reward back tenfold. If you ever sell anything on eBay you will get severely screwed around because thats about all someone with an attitude like yours deserves. Have a nice life
First of all, I did have intentions of buying the laptop, or OBVIOUSLY i wouldn't have placed the bid. i think your over looking the $900 I have to spend on a laptop at my own risk. this isn't exactly any old purchase on ebay. so please go cry me a river! Seems like you're taking this extra personal
Very true. For both seller and buyer. Which would be why a mature person would work out all the questions before bidding on a laptop on ebay rather than after. However you rationalize it, you're creating extra effort and time on the part of the seller. What if he or she needed to sell their laptop to pay a mortgage or medical bills, and now with you backing out they're losing their house and/or can't get the lifesaving surgery due to the time needed for a new auction? Yes, those are unlikely situations, but did you consider the seller's situation at all?
The point the others are making is that it's not all about you; you're continued arguments focusing on "me me me" just prove their point.
Yep!
I already "ranted" about this in another topic on here, not that long ago. But this is exactly why I've personally boycotted eBay and refuse to ever sell on it again, after 7-8 years of selling literally thousands of items there.
I've never had so many hassles as in the last year or so with buyers backing out, running and complaining to PayPal a MONTH or more after paying for things and getting full refunds that come out of my account, etc. etc. I've had people return my items with parts missing after they got their money back from me, and I've gotten stuck paying return shipping expenses and eBay listing fees that didn't get properly refunded ... the whole works.
And you can't even so much as write a reply comment to a feedback they leave for you anymore -- so the seller is basically just screwed!
I already "ranted" about this in another topic on here, not that long ago. But this is exactly why I've personally boycotted eBay and refuse to ever sell on it again, after 7-8 years of selling literally thousands of items there.
I've never had so many hassles as in the last year or so with buyers backing out, running and complaining to PayPal a MONTH or more after paying for things and getting full refunds that come out of my account, etc. etc. I've had people return my items with parts missing after they got their money back from me, and I've gotten stuck paying return shipping expenses and eBay listing fees that didn't get properly refunded ... the whole works.
And you can't even so much as write a reply comment to a feedback they leave for you anymore -- so the seller is basically just screwed!
Nice attitude, if you had no intention of paying for the item you should have exercised some restraint and not even placed a bid. I think you wasting the sellers time is BS, I'm sure you will get your karmic reward back tenfold. If you ever sell anything on eBay you will get severely screwed around because thats about all someone with an attitude like yours deserves. Have a nice life
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With that said. You should of done you homework before you placed the bid. Asked the seller any questions you felt needfull ect. Once you placed the bid you are obligated to buy the product. If something is found to be wrong with the product after purchase then you can go through all the proper channels. As it stands the product is the same product as it was when you decided to buy it. Take responsibility for your actions and stop being childish about it. This is a major issue with people these days.
With that said. You should of done you homework before you placed the bid. Asked the seller any questions you felt needfull ect. Once you placed the bid you are obligated to buy the product. If something is found to be wrong with the product after purchase then you can go through all the proper channels. As it stands the product is the same product as it was when you decided to buy it. Take responsibility for your actions and stop being childish about it. This is a major issue with people these days.
i actually got a MBP 15 inch off of ebay for $1625 and its has the i7. This is actually my first Mac and i'm pretty excited about it. I picked up this morning from the post office. Many people don't recommend it, but I got a good deal. One thing i recommend is to ask the seller to provide the serial number. From there you can check the warranty status.
what is the deal with all the eBay fan boys chirping in?
for $900 bucks it was a bad risk ... OP made the right call
Nobody's an eBay fanboy; in fact, crap like this is why eBay now sucks.
None of the OP's arguments hold water. He knew all of the potential risks before he decided to bid on the item. He can try to justify it all he wants but the bottom line is that it was a douche move. It's really not that hard to understand why.
I'm hardly a fanboy of ebay I prefer craigslist my self when selling to locate buyers as I like to deal in hard cash face to face. Even then I get jerked arround from time to time.
The OP didnt make the "right call" as the OP has buyers remorse and is a non-paying bidder. This shows the poor character of the bidder. However I doubt that he will suffer and real consequence to his actions by eBay.
Not so far fetched, actually. Someone selling a relatively new laptop in need of money could very well be in a dire straight. Consider all the difficulties in receiving your monies after the auction is done.
First of all, I did have intentions of buying the laptop, or OBVIOUSLY i wouldn't have placed the bid. i think your over looking the $900 I have to spend on a laptop at my own risk. this isn't exactly any old purchase on ebay. so please go cry me a river! Seems like you're taking this extra personal
I'm not taking it personally at all, I'm just not a fan of people who act like morally reprehensible douches. As others have stated any arguments you have presented are lame and flawed.
Treat others with a little respect and then you may be due some yourself. You came on here and asked what people thought of your actions, and now you don't like the responses.. Boo Hoo, cry yourself a river dude
I gave up on e-bay after a similar experience. I shipped and did my part, the buyer freaked because I didn't respond to one e-mail out and tried to cancel credit card payment, left negative feedback and the rest even though I had over 300 positive. At the time, the product (PS3) was enroute. Buyers who have no idea what they're doing waste a ton of my time and energy. It's inconsiderate and wrong. You wouldn't do this sort of crap with a friend, why do it with someone who is being honest?.
ebay fan boys going crazzzzyyyyy!!! LOL
I'm so over it.
This thread wasn't called "Is it unethical to refuse to pay for an item you bid on ebay?"
ebay and craigs list are a breeding ground for suspect behaviour ... ebay lets crooks pedal their knock-off counterfeit products all the time.
Fake Apple Care anyone ... going fast at $60 bucks each.
I know someone who bought a fake Hockey Card for their Kid's 10th birthday ... ebays response ... oh well, it was sold as is. Even though it was advertised as a Genuine Gretzky Rookie Card.
I do not feel sorry for any sellers on ebay ... the seller will just find another sucker for that hardly used Macbook.