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I can copy and paste exactly the same as on a Mac, using a mouse. I can copy and paste by touching, iOS style. I can copy and paste by circling with the pencil.
They are all three extremely simple to do, require no less precision than anything else.

I have never had any trouble copying anything, or any trouble with font type. In fact I have found it annoyingly consistant with copying fonts and formatting across, to the point where I wrote a Siri shortcut to make something I have copied plain text for when I don’t want to include it.

People that call the ipad a toy have automatically weakened their own argument against it. Whether you can use it professionally or creatively or not is irrelevant- many many people do and so it’s very clearly not a toy.

I can copy and paste exactly the same as on a Mac by using the keyboard.
 
Sure. Like I said, there are reasons to want it, but wanting something doesn't justify it. But if a country has decided to snoop on something you can voice your opinion by voting.


Yopu're assumption is leadership is actually elected there.

But people shouldn't be skirting laws in other countries. That is unprofessional.

That depends onyour profession.

And it's worth point out that all you are doing is changing which government you are trusting to no snoop. Nothing stops any government from intercepting available data via the VPN and making them lie about it handing it over.

True, but a reliable VPN makes it a lot harder.

No one is spoofing wifi at the Hilton to get their hands on your manuscript.

I would not bet any important information on it.
 
Yopu're assumption is leadership is actually elected there.

Hmm. What country doesn't allow voting but does allow a VPN?

That depends onyour profession.

No profession should skirt the law. None. Not even the police.

True, but a reliable VPN makes it a lot harder.

I argue it makes no difference.

I would not bet any important information on it.

No one is spoofing a WiFi signal and tricking an iPad into giving up any more data than can be seen by a normal data analysis. And none of that data compromises legitimate business.
 
Sure. Like I said, there are reasons to want it, but wanting something doesn't justify it. But if a country has decided to snoop on something you can voice your opinion by voting. But people shouldn't be skirting laws in other countries. That is unprofessional. And it's worth point out that all you are doing is changing which government you are trusting to no snoop. Nothing stops any government from intercepting available data via the VPN and making them lie about it handing it over.



You are getting defensive. I can tell because you are listing points that aren't exactly relevant to the need for a VPN.

Look - I am not saying that a VPN isn't justified by someone. I am specifically targeting the point that a professional must hide their IP address. At the very most people are able to identify the domain you headed to. No one is spoofing wifi at the Hilton to get their hands on your manuscript.

Honestly, I’d love to debate this more as I think it’s a really interesting and overlooked limitation of both iOS and iPadOS. But I fear we are derailing the thread.
 
I can copy and paste exactly the same as on a Mac, using a mouse. I can copy and paste by touching, iOS style. I can copy and paste by circling with the pencil.
They are all three extremely simple to do, require no less precision than anything else.

I have never had any trouble copying anything, or any trouble with font type. In fact I have found it annoyingly consistant with copying fonts and formatting across, to the point where I wrote a Siri shortcut to make something I have copied plain text for when I don’t want to include it.

People that call the ipad a toy have automatically weakened their own argument against it. Whether you can use it professionally or creatively or not is irrelevant- many many people do and so it’s very clearly not a toy.

Absolutely agreed. And yet for most people it’s a media consuming/web-browsing, movie-watching toy, as I said. There’s a reason Apple keeps adding functionality to it to make it more MacOS-like. We’re not even close to there yet.
 
controller looks pretty interesting
currrently testing 2 steel series pc keyboards
so far pretty good but hefty
 
SteelSeries Nimbus+ Controller ($60) - If you want to game on your iPad Pro but don't have an Xbox or PlayStation controller, the SteelSeries Nimbus+ works with the iPad Pro, iPhone, and Apple TV. It has a built-in rechargeable battery and is compatible with thousands of titles across the App Store and Apple Arcade. It supports multiple joysticks and has tactile d-pad buttons for a fast and responsive gaming experience.

I have to totally disagree here. If you’re spending $60 on a controller, just get an Xbox one controller. Yes the batteries thing is obnoxious, but you’re getting the de-facto “default” multi platform controller. I have a Nimbus, I have Xbox controllers and PlayStation ones. It just does not make sense in today’s landscape to grab a nimbus. It made sense a few years ago.
 
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Anyone know where to find the iPad wallpaper shown in the thumbnail? (the one of the illustrated mountain)
 
I have to totally disagree here. If you’re spending $60 on a controller, just get an Xbox one controller. Yes the batteries thing is obnoxious, but you’re getting the de-facto “default” multi platform controller. I have a Nimbus, I have Xbox controllers and PlayStation ones. It just does not make sense in today’s landscape to grab a nimbus. It made sense a few years ago.

You can pick up rechargeable xbox one batteries for fairly cheap. I got two, with a dock for under $15.
 
Absolutely agreed. And yet for most people it’s a media consuming/web-browsing, movie-watching toy, as I said. There’s a reason Apple keeps adding functionality to it to make it more MacOS-like. We’re not even close to there yet.
I disagree. I don’t think they are trying, and not do I want it to be ‘more macos like’.
It’s something - well will become something - that sits between ios and macos. It’s aiming for macos power whilst striving for iOS simplicity.

It’s not there yet, for sure, but also it will never be there if you’re looking for macos.

If you’re looking for macos on an iPad you will always be out of luck. If you’re open to the way you consider computing, and have the sort of usage that an iPad excels at, particularly if it excels over and above what a Mac is capable of, then you will find an incredible device that could change everything for you.

It’s not quite ready yet for all computing tasks, it’s a year old OS built out of a 10 year old phone OS. But it’s finding its feet quickly nontheless.

Still insisting that the iPad as a toy is naive these days, especially with the advent of the iPad Pro’s and iPados.
 
It’s not quite ready yet for all computing tasks, it’s a year old OS built out of a 10 year old phone OS. But it’s finding its feet quickly nontheless.

Still insisting that the iPad as a toy is naive these days, especially with the advent of the iPad Pro’s and iPados.
Very true. In computer years, iPadOS is barely an infant; and is more akin to Windows 1.0 than 3.2 at this point; at least in terms of how it evolved. Each iteration gets it closer to being a capaable stand aalone device, features such as mouse integration, basic file management, etc. all are first steps in its evolution.

It's all part of a trend to smaller form factors, especially in mobile computing, from the sewing machine to the breifcase to today's ultra thing form factors.

Now that Apple is moving to ARM it makes sense the iPad will become more powerful and eventually be a viable single device rather than an adjunct. Early portables, while very useful, often were not yet fully capable for replacing a desktop; now they routinely are the only machine a person uses. As Apple develops more powerful ARM processors it makes sense for them to make more capable iPads; and to expect them to become viable alternatives to a laptop. In the end, most people will care less about the OS than how well the machine meets their needs. There always will be use cases where an iPad would not be sufficient, but aas it and iPad OS grow in power and features those case will become less and less.
 
It's intentional. Apple wants us to buy an iPhone, an iPad and a Mac. All three devices, at least.
But in some cases the iPad can do all, in less software-demanding tasks, like some arts, especially with the touchscreen and how the iPad is the only touchscreen mac book, how I like to say it. Hopefully they get cross pollinated so much they turn it into a legitimate computer, it is already so powerful they are using the iPad Pro 2020 chip in the new silicon macs, which are so much thinner and lighter.
 
I disagree. I don’t think they are trying, and not do I want it to be ‘more macos like’.
It’s something - well will become something - that sits between ios and macos. It’s aiming for macos power whilst striving for iOS simplicity.

It’s not there yet, for sure, but also it will never be there if you’re looking for macos.

If you’re looking for macos on an iPad you will always be out of luck. If you’re open to the way you consider computing, and have the sort of usage that an iPad excels at, particularly if it excels over and above what a Mac is capable of, then you will find an incredible device that could change everything for you.

It’s not quite ready yet for all computing tasks, it’s a year old OS built out of a 10 year old phone OS. But it’s finding its feet quickly nontheless.

Still insisting that the iPad as a toy is naive these days, especially with the advent of the iPad Pro’s and iPados.
I absolutely agree, almost all softwares need updates and they'll only get better in the opinions of most people.
 
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