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Why is this surprising to anyone? Apple has spent every moment post Snow Leopard and Post iOS 6.x proving over, and over, and over, and over, and over again my friends that they either no longer care, or no longer understand, (probably a combination of both), what makes a good UI. Almost without exception every move they have made since that era has reduced consistency, usability and visibility in exchange for non-productivity-hipsterism. At their *best* they have been akin to a Rubenesque turtle, flailing on it's back in the sun. At their worst they seem to be actively and willfully destroying the very fabric of intuitiveness and usability they helped to create.

Despite some excitement around such things as the M1 chip, it's very much a sad era to be a Mac or iThing user. Just do what we've had to do in education and begin migrating away from Apple's software to something better whenever something better exists (which is almost always these days). Over the past decade we've gone from 100% Apple software users; from the servers right down to the software the students and staff used, to around 20% total Apple software in use, and even that's purely on an 'if you prefer Pages go ahead and keep using it' basis. Really, the only thing keeping us in the Apple ecosystem at all currently is the pre-existing hardware investment and legacy document compatibility (pages, keynote etc.) from when we were a 100% Apple software school. It's nearly all gone to complete and total you-know-what.

Oh, and switch to Overcast. It's far better, and already has been pretty much since the day it was released.
 
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Why is this surprising to anyone? Apple has spent every moment post Snow Leopard and Post iOS 6.x proving over, and over, and over, and over, and over again my friends that they either no longer care, or no longer understand, (probably a combination of both), what makes a good UI.
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Oh, and switch to Overcast. It's far better, and already has been pretty much since the day it was released.
This. I gave up on Podcasts around iOS 6 in favor of Overcast (it was telling when Apple stopped allowing AppStore reviews for Podcast, the complaints were numerous even back then). And the Music app is so unintuitive with its navigation, ellipses, pull downs etc. Maybe you’re not supposed to interact with It but just admire how beautiful it looks.

For a company which is supposed to be media/creativity focused, some of Apple’s first-party media apps are just lousy.
 
Why even bother with this? Apple has had more than enough chances.

Pocket Casts is so incredibly simple, reliable and intuitive.


Highly recommended by me, for what it is worth. *****
And by The Verge (where I learned about it - Thanks, The Verge :)
 
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All of the apps from Apples’s Services division are awful.

We shouldn’t be surprised that Podcasts has further deteriorated.

Can anyone say that the Service apps are best in class?

Apple Music, Apple TV, News are all seriously under baked, difficult to use & buggy.

Tim Cook may go on about how Services is doing well, revenue-wise.

However, it feels like the business managers there are in charge of product management.
 
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This is why I started using Overcast and never looked back.
I was a huge advocate for overcast but switched a fortnight ago to pocketcasts. overcast just kept ruining how to use podcasts on the watch. Otherwise I’d have stuck with it

thought one feature I bloody adore on pocket casts is files. I can upload mp3 and m4b files to my 1gb cloud drive they provide and stream to my watch
 
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A podcast UI design should be the easiest thing to do. I’ve always been baffled by the Podcasts app. For casual users such as myself, I just need you to display and play episodes in chronological order starting with one. All the other stuff of playlists, mixing, matching, queing... you spend more time bouncing around with features than just listening.

Overcast is better, but I still feel like I have do a lot of tapping to simply get me a straight list of episodes, so I can choose the one I want to listen to. Don’t need you to hide “listened to” episodes or other sorting confusion.

Any podcast app should just have a ”dummy” mode, that simply shows me an old fashioned numerical list, in one tap. Nobody doesn’t get how to use a list.
 
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The download/downloaded button is confusing to me. Before it was a cloud with a down arrow, telling you can download the episode. Now, you have to hit the ellipsis menu to see download, and once it is download, the icon is a down arrow, which to me still says "it needs to be downloaded" visually instead of what it's trying to say, "this is already downloaded." :confused:
 
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Pocket Casts is just perfect! Even the free version.
Super simple, easy, reliable and intuitive.

I was reluctant to pay for it but had to for my watch. It’s brilliant. Syncs with watch iPad. Phone. All immediate. And the files section in the cloud is genius
 
Tim Cook may go on about how Services is doing well, revenue-wise.

However, it feels like the business managers there are in charge of product management.
That’s probably because they are. Sadly, Apple Services are about adding revenue streams to the bottom line and nothing more.
 
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The download/downloaded button is confusing to me. Before it was a cloud with a down arrow, telling you can download the episode. Now, you have to hit the ellipsis menu to see download, and once it is download, the icon is a down arrow, which to me still says "it needs to be downloaded" visually instead of what it's trying to say, "this is already downloaded." :confused:
As someone who uses the download function daily, what you describe sounds highly unintuitive.
 
Does Apple keep track of when users delete native apps? That would be nice for them to see the sharp drop of usage of their app.

Since they'd hoped to tie revenues to it, they'll have a harder story to tell content providers. "Why, uh, yeah the installed base of active Podcasts app users has dropped precipitously, but hey. We're Apple."
 
I was very much looking forward to this updated Apple Podcasts and REALLY wanted to like it - but it just got worse, so back to Overcast.

They need to fix this, and also bring voice boost/trim silence features
 
I'm also noticing since the update that podcast episodes are taking longer to show up in the feed compared to before the update. For example I have a podcast that always posts around 10am and showed up at 2pm today. It was in Pocketcast at 10am today.
 
Why even bother with this? Apple has had more than enough chances.

Pocket Casts is so incredibly simple, reliable and intuitive.


Highly recommended by me, for what it is worth. *****
And by The Verge (where I learned about it - Thanks, The Verge :)
Yeah it’s awesome

watch app also far better
 
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I’m furious about this. Apple have totally ****ed the podcasts app.

I can now only listen to the 5 most recent episodes of one podcast?

I had just found a new one and was working my way backwards, about 50 podcasts in and now I can’t access any old ones!

Jesus, what a **** show.
 
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