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Users folder now hidden on 10.9.3?? (SOLVED!)
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yeah, i just ran the whole repair process, rebooted. my users & shared folders are visible...and 'find my mac' is off. so...turn it on, and the problem reappears on reboot? am going to re-enable my firmware password, see what happens...
EDIT: seems more complicated than that. i have 'find my mac' off, but...i had disabled the guest user. on reboot, guest user was enabled...and my Users folder is missing again.
hope a permanent solution comes soon...
I re-enabled firmware password. No problem. Folders still there.
But I didn't touch 'find my mac'.
Also I only had this problem on my 2009 MacBook Pro.
My nMP updated without a hitch.
Firmware password isn't related to the problem at all except that you can't easily reset PRAM with it enabled. The reason resetting PRAM works to fix the permissions and visibility is because doing so turns off Find My Mac.
I've not spent a huge amount of time playing with FFM, but the present situation is...
1) Turning on FMM enables the Guest user
2) Turning off the Guest user does not uncheck FFM in iCloud
3) FFM still works with the Guest user disabled
Didn't it use to be the case that Guest user had to be enabled to run FFM? And if there's no longer an interdependence, why does turning on FFM enable Guest (and 'silently' – there's no message that it's happening)?
I do wish Apple would be a bit more forthcoming about what each release changes...
EDIT: above all observed while still in a 'hidden user folder' state.
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Interesting. I'll investigate the following a bit further to see if FMM needs to be left off, or simply left in whatever state it was in prior to making the permissions changes...
There was no change to that requirement between 10.9.2 and 10.9.3. I can turn the guest user on and off independently of the FMM setting in 10.9.2 just as I can in 10.9.3.
here's my humble report:
i left firmware password disabled.
i left 'find my mac' unchecked.
i enabled the guest user.
rebooted, did everything (pram, permissions repair, terminal commands), and...
2 reboots and Users & Shared are visible.
but, of course, i want to enable FW password, AND disable the guest user, and enable 'find my mac'.
ugh!
i left firmware password disabled.
i left 'find my mac' unchecked.
i enabled the guest user.
rebooted, did everything (pram, permissions repair, terminal commands), and...
2 reboots and Users & Shared are visible.
but, of course, i want to enable FW password, AND disable the guest user, and enable 'find my mac'.
ugh!
It doesn't matter. On reboot, if FMM is on, /Users goes invisible and permissions are reset.
I have submitted a preliminary Bug report to apple. BUG# 16942924
I would suggest everyone jump onboard and report the issue.
Your move.
Right, but if it is off at reboot, it won't force /Users to go invisible if permissions and visibility were previously fixed.
so yes, FMM. i re-enabled firmware password, AND disabled Guest user, and all seems well.
I can reproduce it with iTunes 11.2 and 10.9.2 as well. I guess 10.9.3 was a red herring here.
I went into my root drive (OS X Mavericks) in Finder, clicked on Go, then Go To Folder and typed in Users. I have show file path enabled on my MBP, so I drug the Users icon from the file path onto my sidebar and now I can access Users whenever I need to.
I rebooted to make sure it didn't go away and it didn't.
I rebooted to make sure it didn't go away and it didn't.
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I think I'm going to have to retract.
Set FMM on, leave Guest on: Users invisible
Reboot; make fixes from Recovery Partition; reboot: Users invisible
Leave FMM on, turn guest off: Users invisible (wasn't expecting them to reappear)
Reboot; make fixes from Recovery Partition; reboot: Users invisible
Turn FMM off: Users invisible (again, wasn't expecting them to reappear)
Reboot; make fixes from Recovery Partition; reboot: Users visible
I'll go to my grave swearing that I *did* have Users visible, and saw the folder disappear in the background when I FMM off, but I can't reproduce it.
So... no FMM for the moment. That sucks.
Looking on the bright side, if I hadn't installed an SSD last month I'd still be rebooting now...
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A-ha!
iTunes was already under suspicion following a couple of reports from 10.9.2 users.
The thousands of iTunes-related 'unexpected ACL' notifications in Repair Permissions are bloody annoying too, although that might be down to 10.9.3 because the latest RAW update is also flagged...
i just saw that in my RSS feed also. The author is saying it still gets reset to hidden on reboot, so the app needs to be set as a login item.
I suspect all the app does it run "chflags nohidden /Users" at login, so this is just a band aid.
hope apple gives us an actual fix quickly. hate running around with 'find my mac' off on my macbook.
i also put shortcuts to Users and Shared in my sidebar, helpful for now if...
i also put shortcuts to Users and Shared in my sidebar, helpful for now if...
It worked for me..
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How big of an issue is that then? I don't get it...It's not that you cannot access the folders. They are just hidden...