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The map of the inside of the store was in Google Maps or Apple Maps? Here's what I'm seeing:

Google Maps:

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Apple Maps:

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I was on iCloud using Find My IPhone. I incorrectly assumed that was the same mapping info that was being used in the IOS maps app. I just checked using my phone and you are right. No indoor info. I stand corrected.
 
I would think this is a POI problem, not a Maps app problem. Apple is drawing their POI data from somewhere, and in this case that database clearly is not containing accurate Walmart data. Often times that is the fault of the company itself... in that they do not do a proactive job of submitting and updating their gps/address info to various sites that use that information. For example, my tiny little business can be found on google maps.... yet some very large companies in town are not. It is the responsibility of the companies involved to get their information out there an be accurate.

So, rather than find fault with Apple Maps for not pointing at Walmart but instead pointing into a canal, we are now going to assign blame to Walmart for not proactively "updating their gps/address info". Meanwhile, Google maps app running on the very same device seems to find the exact center of the Walmart store. So, apparently, I'm to believe that Walmart has submitted proper coordinates to help shoppers using Google Maps find their store but is apparently leaving it's Apple maps-using customers to make a swim for it in a canal. Perhaps Walmart doesn't want Apple's customers?

Why some of us can never find fault with Apple and will instead spin anything any way we can spin it to shift fault off Apple makes no sense to me. If Google data is better than Apple data, I bet Apple could assign a team to write a little code to poll it's database locations for places like this vs. Google's database locations for places like this and adjust:

If <Apple maps location> is in the middle of a body of water,
and if <Google maps location> is on dry land,
and if <location is not a bridge but some kind of physical mail address entity that should be on dry land>,
then adjust <Apple maps location> to equal <Google maps location>.


The first guy who responded tried to spin this that Apple's location in the middle of the canal was more correct than Googles pointing in the middle of the store. This guy is trying to blame Walmart for not giving it's correct coordinates to Apple (but apparently giving them to Google). What's next? Typically, next should be blaming me (the user) for using the Maps app wrong. Then, someone should try to change the subject with something like "but who's single model smart device is most profitable?" or similar.

There are TONS of posts online about Apple Maps bugs. Do a search. I'm very glad that some are seeing some corrections after what- 2+ years???. I'd love to see Apple's Maps app accuracy improve myself. But in the meantime, I'm not going to deem it more right or blame the address holders when the other guys maps app seems to generally get it right.
 
You mean they weren't infinitely better for you when first released? :eek:

SHUUUNN HIM! :mad:

You know, I like Apple Maps. It does have some neat and handy features that are nice to use. The UI is a little slicker, and performance of the damn thing absolutely screams on my iPhone and iPad. But I'm not gonna say it's infinitely better than Google. When it comes to the most important parts, the maps and the data, I'd say it's only roughly on par in some respects.
 
It's a big world

It was pretty much perfect for me living in Edinburgh, Scotland.
As it's my home town/country I didn't need it that much.

3 Months ago I moved to New Zealand. Now I need it.
Apple's Maps is shockingly inaccurate in NZ.
God help any tourist who comes here and has to rely on it.
 
Google wouldn't allow turn by turn navigation on the iPhone, so Apple spent hundred of millions to acquire and implement their own maps service in under a years time. It was an arms race, and of course Google then immediately allowed turn by turn for IOS.

Apple maps is better IMHO. It's more intuitive to use, the turn-by turn navigation is much less annoying to listen to, and the maps look more pleasing. It's less a less stressful experience. It uses less battery than google. It knows which direction you're headed down a street more accurately than google maps. I'm even amazed by how well siri pronounces street names correctly. If you give it an address, I think that it is very accurate.

What it lacks:
Search, it's very hard to find business's, restaurants, parks, etc.
Transit navigation, bus/subway schedules.
Offline cashed maps view, for when you're in the NYC subway.

as a walker i dont really use navigations that much. apples dosent even work where i live but how do you find apple maps more intuitive?

google maps has that sidebar menu which im not particularly fond of instead of a menu at the bottom with many of the same options behinds apple info button although flyover (which is useless considering in how few places it works and share are also always accessible) although making street view available changes their priorities.

i like how apple has a scale even though i dont really use it and their maps allows for a more clutter free view ie everything but the compass can disappear while google maps always has the searchbar, sidemenu and location icon visible
 
SHUUUNN HIM! :mad:

You know, I like Apple Maps. It does have some neat and handy features that are nice to use. The UI is a little slicker, and performance of the damn thing absolutely screams on my iPhone and iPad. But I'm not gonna say it's infinitely better than Google. When it comes to the most important parts, the maps and the data, I'd say it's only roughly on par in some respects.

To some, the maps and data must not be as important.:D And I was worried when you got lost the last time. I thought maybe you were using maps and got lost in the Outback. Or went to the restaurant in the ocean. :D:D:D


Disclaimer: This post is intended to be in jest. Any resemblance to actual humor is purely unintentional.
 
It can also be this scenario :

Apple themselves built the app, using APIs provided by Google, but Google never told them about turn-by-turn navigation APIs, just for the sake of having the exclusivity on Android.

This is something we'll never know.

Indeed it is, thus I'd be inclined to say Turn by Turn is a moot case point.
 
So, rather than find fault with Apple Maps for not pointing at Walmart but instead pointing into a canal, we are now going to assign blame to Walmart for not proactively "updating their gps/address info". Meanwhile, Google maps app running on the very same device seems to find the exact center of the Walmart store. So, apparently, I'm to believe that Walmart has submitted proper coordinates to help shoppers using Google Maps find their store but is apparently leaving it's Apple maps-using customers to make a swim for it in a canal. Perhaps Walmart doesn't want Apple's customers?

Why some of us can never find fault with Apple and will instead spin anything any way we can spin it to shift fault off Apple makes no sense to me. If Google data is better than Apple data, I bet Apple could assign a team to write a little code to poll it's database locations for places like this vs. Google's database locations for places like this and adjust:

If <Apple maps location> is in the middle of a body of water,
and if <Google maps location> is on dry land,
and if <location is not a bridge but some kind of physical mail address entity that should be on dry land>,
then adjust <Apple maps location> to equal <Google maps location>.


The first guy who responded tried to spin this that Apple's location in the middle of the canal was more correct than Googles pointing in the middle of the store. This guy is trying to blame Walmart for not giving it's correct coordinates to Apple (but apparently giving them to Google). What's next? Typically, next should be blaming me (the user) for using the Maps app wrong. Then, someone should try to change the subject with something like "but who's single model smart device is most profitable?" or similar.

There are TONS of posts online about Apple Maps bugs. Do a search. I'm very glad that some are seeing some corrections after what- 2+ years???. I'd love to see Apple's Maps app accuracy improve myself. But in the meantime, I'm not going to deem it more right or blame the address holders when the other guys maps app seems to generally get it right.

I am not trying to spin anything to avoid placing blame on Apple. I am looking at this very pragmatically. I own and run a courier business. Deliveries are my business, i do many of them every single day of the week. I understand how these things work very well. Very often a client gives me incorrect address information for a delivery. Rather than get on the phone and call the client, we always first attempt to resolve the discrepancy ourselves. This is usually a google search, or yelp, or otherwise. And we very often do a google search, and find multiple addresses for the same business, because they have moved... and we have to figure out which is the newest/correct one. And you know what, when this happens, i do NOT blame google for showing me search results that contain discrepancies.
And a lot of people do not realize this, but when companies initially starting submitting POI information to various companies that compile such info, it wasn't always address information that was provided. Often they supplied hard latitude and longitude coordinates. Often times this information was not correct... hence it showed up on a map in a weird location. Also... companies often submitted information for planned or future locations. Walmart, for example, always has plans to build new stores. It is entirely feasible that someone somewhere entered coordinates for a planned lot. Who knows. But i do know it is absolutely pointless... beyond pointless... to attack someone for pointing out various ways that these kind of errors occur. Does it make you feel better about yourself.
Good for you.
 
One thing I'm noticed recently is Apple Maps is actually more up-to-date in my area (outside the US) than Google, not only for navigation but also the aerial/satellite images.

I've noticed this too in Australia. My house has a pool that was installed about 4 years ago. It shows when I look up my address on Apple maps, Google shows it pre pool, so there images are quite a bit out of date.
Hopefully Apple continues to improve their maps service, and I'm sure they will. Google was nowhere near as good as it is today when it first launched either.
 
Well I have just submitted reports for 10 corrections to Apple Maps. These are all businesses that are in the wrong location or which closed prior to the launch of Apple Maps. I have reported all of these before. These are all within 100yds of my home in Central London, UK. If I actually see any of these change, then I will be encouraged to report more again, in the hope that changes are now being reflected.

I want Apple Maps to work. I know that Apple are never going to reinstate Google Maps as the primary map provider. So I have to hope that Apple Maps works. I knew it wouldn't be right on Day One. But unless I get a sense that my feedback is being addressed, why would I bother?
 
I am not trying to spin anything to avoid placing blame on Apple. I am looking at this very pragmatically. I own and run a courier business. Deliveries are my business, i do many of them every single day of the week. I understand how these things work very well. Very often a client gives me incorrect address information for a delivery. Rather than get on the phone and call the client, we always first attempt to resolve the discrepancy ourselves. This is usually a google search, or yelp, or otherwise. And we very often do a google search, and find multiple addresses for the same business, because they have moved... and we have to figure out which is the newest/correct one. And you know what, when this happens, i do NOT blame google for showing me search results that contain discrepancies.
And a lot of people do not realize this, but when companies initially starting submitting POI information to various companies that compile such info, it wasn't always address information that was provided. Often they supplied hard latitude and longitude coordinates. Often times this information was not correct... hence it showed up on a map in a weird location. Also... companies often submitted information for planned or future locations. Walmart, for example, always has plans to build new stores. It is entirely feasible that someone somewhere entered coordinates for a planned lot. Who knows. But i do know it is absolutely pointless... beyond pointless... to attack someone for pointing out various ways that these kind of errors occur. Does it make you feel better about yourself.
Good for you.

Look, I posted a simple example- one that anyone can check right now on their own iDevice: Walmart Lake Worth Florida. Check it on the Apple Maps app and check it on the Google Maps app. The former will point dead center in a nearby canal. The latter points dead center in the store.

With that, I shared that 2 other Walmart searches while vacationing took us to empty fields- one in South Carolina and one in Florida.

This thread- and lots of others like it- have ALL KINDS of examples of Apple Maps still not pointing to the right places. Do a search and see for yourself.

Personally, I like Apple Maps. I'd like it to be the best Maps app on my iDevices. I'm glad to see people commenting that improvements are actually being made. But after it let me down several times, I installed Google maps. I still use Apple Maps often because it's the default but when I need to be sure- or when it can't find what I'm seeking- I fire up Google maps and it gets it right more often.

I chip in my point here and what do I get? One person decides to deem the mid-canal pin of Apple maps "more correct" than the Google pin pointing dead center of the store. You decide to join the conversation and shift blame to Walmart for apparently giving Google the correct location information but not Apple. After all, why would Walmart want Apple product users to shop in their stores?

Then, you appear to take offense. If offended, sorry, that wasn't my intent. I just see the "Apple can do no wrong" spin too often here and blaming Walmart for selectively giving Google good info and Apple bad looked like more of that to me.

So you're in the courier business. Great. I would think quality maps are VERY IMPORTANT to your business. When you have a package that needs to get to the right place without delay, what mapping solution are YOU depending on?
 
I was on iCloud using Find My IPhone. I incorrectly assumed that was the same mapping info that was being used in the IOS maps app. I just checked using my phone and you are right. No indoor info. I stand corrected.

Ah, that makes sense. Find my iPhone on the web uses Google Maps.
 
How can they significantly improve something supposed to be near perfect ?
In what spacetime would someone call 2 years "quick corrections"...?
 
I like Apple Map more so then Google Map on my iDevices. The integration makes it fast and Siri makes it easy to use. I don't see any problems with accuracy either, especially here in Australia, Apple Map is much more accurate than Google Map. (Shocking right?)

I would say it's good to use both maps on your iPhone, but keep Google Map as secondary just in case you need confirmation. Apple map integrates with iPhone hardware so it's faster and supports Siri as well.
 
still can't trust apple maps

it's just happened too often. this time i wanted to visit someone at the repatriation general hospital in adelaide, south australia, and apple maps led me to a completely different place.

i'll stick to google maps for now. i gave apple maps a go. i really did.

tim cook, please do something about this.
 
Who are these "people" you speak of? Anyone who has an Android device is inherently tied to Google. Last I checked, that's a lot of people. I hear a lot of people give reasons for not getting an Android device; but "not trusting Google" is not one of the reasons I frequently hear. I work in the dental field and you might be surprised how many dental offices I work with that use either vanilla Gmail or Google Apps for their office e-mail. When the average person thinks of doing an internet search, where do they usually go?

People get an Android because it's cheap not because they like Android.

And look at the latest products that have been released by Google; they've all been the subject of ridicule and distrust. Google+, the new Youtube comments, driving cars, Google Glasses, and so on and so on. They might be a darling in the tech community but step outside the bubble and you'll realise people don't like Google as much as you think.
 
Now I see, and agree with, what you're saying in relation to Google Maps. Anyone expecting parity at launch was bound to be disappointed, but Apple promised better than parity. That's where you and I disagree; Apple's presentation. …

Well, this is awkward coming to something resembling agreement on the internet. I suppose they could have toned it down in their presentation. We seem to disagree only about how superlative Apple should have been and really I am just saying that I can't see them toning it down ever. Everything is magical and changes everything again. Everything.
 
You mean they weren't infinitely better for you when first released? :eek:

It's never been better or worse than Google maps for me. They've both been accurate. Never had an issue with either. I like Apple's UI better, and the turn by turn navigation seems to be a little more accurate.
 
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