I just use Outlook now, not worth the hassle to use mail with Exchange any more. Bonus is that it keeps my work and personal mail totally separate.
Hello? Anyone there at Apple QC?
Agreed, with one exception. I would like to see Apple's apps go into a bi-weekly(ish) or even monthly rollout like many other apps... separate from the OS. This should apply to both MacOS and iOS variants.I’d like to see Apple return back to bi-annual releases. macOS was Macs are not phones and these annual releases are more akin to service packs that break everything.
Why macOS? This is a Microsoft problem I would say.MacOS is in disarray. Plain and simple. They need to stop with the feature creep and just focus on bug fixes like they did for iOS years ago.
Same here for both macOS and iOS. We've also started directing all our Mac users to try the Microsoft apps. The number of helpdesk calls for issues with mail and calendar syncing dropped dramatically when we moved in that direction. Some Mac users still use Mail and Calendar but they are few and far between.I just use Outlook now, not worth the hassle to use mail with Exchange any more. Bonus is that it keeps my work and personal mail totally separate.
Which software? The problem is Apple's apps in macOS. MS didn't change anything.Microsoft didn’t test their software again? Pathetic
macOS Mail/Calendar (and the underlying components) are Microsoft Apps? That is going to be news to Microsoft and Apple.That's best directed to Microsoft QC as they get early access to upcoming OS releases from Apple.
So by your logic, everyone should wait until .2 release? How would anything be found and fixed if no one updated and found issues?By this time, if you didn't wait until a .2 release, it's on you.
Except for the fact (and I think you already understand this) that we didn't have to go through that trouble every single year. This yearly update cycle just feels unnecessary for macOS. It seems like right after all the bugs get fixed from the current version and developers finally get around to making their apps compatible, another major update is announced that breaks everything all over again. We don't need this.What a short memory you have, those releases were often bug riddled till the first, second or sometimes third point releases. Nothings changed apart from the colour of the lens in your spectacles.
I just use Outlook now, not worth the hassle to use mail with Exchange any more. Bonus is that it keeps my work and personal mail totally separate.
I'm curious, does that include using the Outlook app on your phone? -- I used Exchange in Apple's apps for years but seeing too many issues this time around. Wondering if I go Outlook, is it best to use it on the Mac and iOS?Exactly how I roll. No issues here.
I support about 150 Mac users with our Exchange server. About 40% of them use Outlook for Mac exclusively, the rest use Apple apps. I've had close to 100% issues with the Outlook and almost 0% with Apple apps. In the 15 years I've supported Apple in IT, I can count the Apple / Exchange connection issues I've ever had on one hand. However, support Microsoft products gives me job security.The built in mail and calendar apps work well with iCloud and probably IMAP. They have never worked reliably with Exchange or Google over any long period of time in my experience, both for myself and users I support. It's a shame because the UI is really good, but that's meaningless if you can't count on it. Software testing has a long way to go to catch up with reality, but it's also discouraging to see that reported bugs like these weren't fixed in time for release.
I've had no problem with either the iOS or the Mac Outlook (full) programs on my devices. I like to keep work and personal separate, so it works for me.I'm curious, does that include using the Outlook app on your phone? -- I used Exchange in Apple's apps for years but seeing too many issues this time around. Wondering if I go Outlook, is it best to use it on the Mac and iOS?