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Do people really expect to have a revolutionary OS every year? We should all calm down. I hate the modern day live software where it gets updates with change log every other day. I hardly ever notice anything.

I think we should go back to the old days where it takes few or more years to release the next big OS update. They used to have these books that teaches you how to operate a system/software , now before you finish the book they revamped the whole thing.

yearly updates is crazy and Apple continues to do it just because people continue to want to pay again to say "I got the new X " , in reality there isn't much to it. App Library? really?
 
Personally I was underwhelmed watching the WWDC.
iPadOS
I do like Quicknotes - good potential there
The changes to multitasking was a whiff - basically easier side by side
Widgets were a miss
App Library - which I don't like - why?
Overall felt more like 14.8
iOS
Focus was nice but not something I was looking for and won't use
Shareplay, Facetime changes and many others felt like late to market pandemic items
Livetext was finally nice to see
Privacy was a welcome
iCloud Plus was an underwhelm
Weather was a joke - I don't care for extra animations
Overall it felt out of focus and like they shoehorned in items that should have been last year

Note: These are my thoughts irrespective of the betas - which I am running
 
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Do people really expect to have a revolutionary OS every year? We should all calm down. I hate the modern day live software where it gets updates with change log every other day. I hardly ever notice anything.

I think we should go back to the old days where it takes few or more years to release the next big OS update. They used to have these books that teaches you how to operate a system/software , now before you finish the book they revamped the whole thing.

yearly updates is crazy and Apple continues to do it just because people continue to want to pay again to say "I got the new X " , in reality there isn't much to it. App Library? really?
No, but Apple is seriously losing focus of the iPad Pro. The 2018 iPad Pro was WAY WAY WAY overpowered for the limited iPad OS which is really just a bigger iPhone. Now that the M1 is in there and 16GB of RAM? Where are all the pro apps?! Where is the true multi-tasking?! Why do apps still get limited to 5GB?!

I don't care if the next iPad has 28 core CPU and 128GB of RAM. It has NOTHING that can use the hardware, even the 2018 iPad Pro was overpowered.
 
No, but Apple is seriously losing focus of the iPad Pro. The 2018 iPad Pro was WAY WAY WAY overpowered for the limited iPad OS which is really just a bigger iPhone. Now that the M1 is in there and 16GB of RAM? Where are all the pro apps?! Where is the true multi-tasking?! Why do apps still get limited to 5GB?!

I don't care if the next iPad has 28 core CPU and 128GB of RAM. It has NOTHING that can use the hardware, even the 2018 iPad Pro was overpowered.
Do you know the development cycle and what Apple has in store for iPad os? I just bought an iPad Pro and I’m keeping it, knowing full well what I’m getting.
 
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Still can't change margins in the Books app?! :( Ok ok, probably doesn't bother most people but... I still can't believe that was removed several iOS generations ago.

As far as iOS 15 - I'm happy for the continued development but nothing really struck me as "oooh, I can't wait" - could be I'm getting older. Planning on keeping what I got for another year. Tho, Apple usually finds a way to encourage me to upgrade when they announce the next iPhone... every year.
I use books the most and I am frustrated because I cannot get it to remember my favorite position of the book. I mean, I like single page view and I want it docked to the side of the screen. However, every time I open a new book, I have to manually adjust the position. Not a deal breaker, but I think it is a basic feature that EVERY e-bookreader has, I think.
 
Do people really expect to have a revolutionary OS every year? We should all calm down. I hate the modern day live software where it gets updates with change log every other day. I hardly ever notice anything.

I think we should go back to the old days where it takes few or more years to release the next big OS update. They used to have these books that teaches you how to operate a system/software , now before you finish the book they revamped the whole thing.

yearly updates is crazy and Apple continues to do it just because people continue to want to pay again to say "I got the new X " , in reality there isn't much to it. App Library? really?
There needs to be a release schedule for the software. A year seems fine.

Could be like MS. They do 2 Windows 10 releases a year. Now that is arguably too fast.
 
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Step 1. Search any business you want
Step 2. Select any photo (not look around)
Step 3. Tell me what happened when you clicked on a photo

For those that are to lazy to try, what happens is you need to download yelp to view (screenshots attached 2021)
You keep posting this, and every time I open maps to see, and every time I can just see what I want to see. I don’t have Yelp, and I don’t need Yelp. It might say something to do with Yelp, or yellow pages or whatever, but you don’t need to download the app to look at it.

This photo you posted to ‘prove it’, doesn’t look like a screenshot. It looks like a photo of a screen. Are you sure you have an ios device to try what your proclaiming? I don’t think you do.
 
You keep posting this, and every time I open maps to see, and every time I can just see what I want to see. I don’t have Yelp, and I don’t need Yelp. It might say something to do with Yelp, or yellow pages or whatever, but you don’t need to download the app to look at it.

This photo you posted to ‘prove it’, doesn’t look like a screenshot. It looks like a photo of a screen. Are you sure you have an ios device to try what your proclaiming? I don’t think you do.

For what it's worth I can see what they're talking about following their instructions. After looking for a business and tapping on one of the photos if Yelp isn't installed I get an App Store popover to install Yelp and if Yelp is installed it takes me over to Yelp.
 
UX wise, iPadOS and macOS are on a collision course.

Basically, people asking for the ability to run macOS apps on ipad will continue to be disappointed - apple has already committed to the opposite approach (running ipad apps on macOS).

Instead, the trend is:
1. If there is a change that would make a native iPad app look more at home on the mac, tweak the mac UI (see macOS 11)
2. If there is a feature gap where a ported iPad app doesn't feel native on the mac, add a similar feature to iPadOS (mouse and keyboard support, keyboard shortcuts/navigation and full event support, multitasking so apps need to understand multiple windows)
3. When possible, give the two the same integration points for apps (widgets, sharing, actions, siri, shortcuts, etc) - the odd one out this year was the mail extension support being macOS only.
I think that's fair. I for one don't want the iPad to become a Mac, but if the direction for the iPad is to implement more conventional paradigms (e.g. multitasking, file access, trackpad support) I just want them to do them well. If I focus on those features I'd say that:

- multitasking is much better in iPadOS 15 but still more complicated than it needs to be (I suspect there are technical limitations holding it back from true multitasking but at the moment there's more of a cognitive load to remember all the specific multitasking conditions)
- file access is laughable, it feels like the Files app was just a checkbox feature to me that feels unfinished.
- trackpad support is excellent! I wish they'd implement more features like this, where they take the convention and put their own spin on it. Sadly I suspect the motivation driving this feature was the ability to sell a £300 keyboard.

At the end of the day I think it's a combination of technical limitations and Apple forcibly holding it back a bit to ensure people who buy both a Mac and an iPad don't end up buying an iPad instead of a Mac. Oh well.
 
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  • 1-in-5 Apple users (18.3%) are triskaidekaphobic (fear of number ’13’) and would be put off by the ‘iPhone 13’ moniker
  • A whopping 74% would prefer a different name than iPhone 13 for next-gen iPhones, with ‘iPhone (2021)’ voted the most suitable name at 38%. Other responses: iPhone 13 (26%), iPhone 21 (16%), iPhone 12S (13%), iPhone 14 (7%)

Who are those Apple users? Seriously, of all the things wrong or lacking with the next phone/OS, the name iPhone 13 is literally a non-issue.

Hard to take such survey seriously after reading that. That’s not to say iOS and iPadOS 15 are particularly interesting.
 
For what it's worth I can see what they're talking about following their instructions. After looking for a business and tapping on one of the photos if Yelp isn't installed I get an App Store popover to install Yelp and if Yelp is installed it takes me over to Yelp.
Perhaps it’s a regional thing? Because i can tap any of there photos, and then when they’re full screen can swipe about 6 or 7, then the end card is a ‘see more at————‘ link, (Yelp, yellow pages, trip advisor or whomever), from there I’m taken to the website in Safari.
At no point during the past 20 tests I just did, or even in my memory (I use maps daily) have I not been able to see a large selection of photos and at no point am I directed to download the app apart from the regular safari banner advert for such websites.
 
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Perhaps it’s a regional thing? Because i can tap any of there photos, and then when they’re full screen can swipe about 6 or 7, then the end card is a ‘see more at————‘ link, (Yelp, yellow pages, trip advisor or whomever), from there I’m taken to the website in Safari.
At no point during the past 20 tests I just did, or even in my memory (I use maps daily) have I not been able to see a large selection of photos and at no point am I directed to download the app apart from the regular safari banner advert for such websites.

I’ve just tested it. I searched for Walmart as in the example, and when I clicked a photo it asked me to download Yelp from the AppStore. When I searched for other companies outside the USA I was able to view the photos without downloading anything. So, it seems to depend on what you search for?
 
I’ve just tested it. I searched for Walmart as in the example, and when I clicked a photo it asked me to download Yelp from the AppStore. When I searched for other companies outside the USA I was able to view the photos without downloading anything. So, it seems to depend on what you search for?
Weird, you’re right there. I searched a Walmart on maps, we dont have them here (closest to me is 9000km away 😂), and yes it directed me to download Yelp. That’s never happened before. I live in France and am British. I have extensively used Maps in both of those countries and Europe in general. Perhaps this is a regional thing as I suggested before?
 
It’s an amazing update! A lot of huge under the hood upgrades and amazing functionalities, that everyone will use.

people are just not interested in anything they can’t show of to their friends. Like new icons, or a slight different interface.
 
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Things like “ipad widgets on desktop” shouldn’t even count. It was almost like apple purposely didn’t given ipad certain features last year just so they’d have something to provide this year.
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

No, but seriously. Apple should have never went down the "Pro" naming route with the iPads as that is exactly what the iPad will never be: No apps or OS for pros, just "pro" specs.

Apple should have just kept upgrading the regular iPads and iPads Air and not have consumers get expectations that they refuse to deliver for no other reason than having us buy both a Mac and an iPad.
 
No, but seriously. Apple should have never went down the "Pro" naming route with the iPads as that is exactly what the iPad will never be: No apps or OS for pros, just "pro" specs.
Affinity Photo, Affinity Design, Photoshop, Lightroom, illustrator, Luma Fusion, RAW Power, Pixlemator Pro, Animation Studio, Procreate Pixlemator photo, Shapr 3D, Concepts, Cubasis 3, Figurative. There you go. A selection of very pro apps used by a wide variety of professions on the iPad. There are many many more.

What’s a pro operating system? Never heard of one.
 
Weird, you’re right there. I searched a Walmart on maps, we dont have them here (closest to me is 9000km away 😂), and yes it directed me to download Yelp. That’s never happened before. I live in France and am British. I have extensively used Maps in both of those countries and Europe in general. Perhaps this is a regional thing as I suggested before?
It depends, imo, on whether look around is enabled in your area. The poster that started this thing was telling me I was wrong when I showed that Yelp wasn’t needed where look around is enabled.(when I was clearly correct with my screenshot)
 
It depends, imo, on whether look around is enabled in your area. The poster that started this thing was telling me I was wrong when I showed that Yelp wasn’t needed where look around is enabled.(when I was clearly correct with my screenshot)
Look around isn’t available in my area, I dont think.
 
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Step 1. Search any business you want
Step 2. Select any photo (not look around)
Step 3. Tell me what happened when you clicked on a photo

For those that are to lazy to try, what happens is you need to download yelp to view (screenshots attached 2021)

(This is in the UK, iPadOS 14.6, iPad Pro 10.5" 2017)

1. I select a business.
2. I see a photograph thumbnail
3. I click on the thumbnail and it expands to full screen.

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If I want to, I can go to Yell (not Yelp), but there's no need because I can see the photograph full-screen. If I do click on the 'Open in Yell', all it does is open a web page. I don't have Yell on the iPad and I've never heard of Yelp till you mentioned it.

So it works without Yell and/or Yelp. I haven't changed any of the default settings: perhaps you've inadvertently turned something off or it's a US only problem?

HTH.
 
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(This is in the UK, iPadOS 14.6, iPad Pro 10.5" 2017)

1. I select a business.
2. I see a photograph thumbnail
3. I click on the thumbnail and it expands to full screen.

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If I want to, I can go to Yell (not Yelp), but there's no need because I can see the photograph full-screen. If I do click on the 'Open in Yell', all it does is open a web page. I don't have Yell on the iPad and I've never heard of Yelp till you mentioned it.

So it works without Yell and/or Yelp. I haven't changed any of the default settings: perhaps you've inadvertently turned something off?

HTH.
Same for me, it’s always been like this, but try searching a Walmart location in the states, the OP is correct in this case. I’m sure it’s a location thing. The US probably doesn’t regulate something like this whereas maybe the EU/UK does? I have no idea
 
Same for me, it’s always been like this, but try searching a Walmart location in the states, the OP is correct in this case. I’m sure it’s a location thing. The US probably doesn’t regulate something like this whereas maybe the EU/UK does? I have no idea

OK, thanks! US customers do have to put up with a lot of nonsense, don't they? (Along with the lower prices for Apple goods...)
 
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