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Users With Multiple Monitors: Lion's Full-Screen Apps Are Not For You

The-Pro said:
LOL!!! what a fail apple :D

I dont know why apple is so excited about full screen apps. I mean come on who wants iCal on full screen, especially when you use 2x30" and 2x23" screens!!!?? whats the point, like no kidding. I want my Safari window and pages doc open next to each other. I never ever make a window go across the entire screen apart from photoshop, illustrator, imovie, iphoto and formZ (which all need a fair amount of space :D)
Full screen is a feature i will use maybe like 2 times at the most to try it out!!
My opinion is apple should not make iOS and OS X become to similar, I dont want iOS running on 30" screens!!!, if i want to use iOS ill use my iPad!!!
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Ya'know, not everyone has a twelve 30" screens and MacPros. Some of us "power users" (whatever a power user is) might just have little white MacBook and fund full screen mode is very useful when it's only a 13" screen.....
 
SO let me get this straight; if I have a MBP, connected to my 22" screen, and have made the 22" my main (with the dock), the MBP screen will get shaded and I'll just use the 22"?

If that's the case, I can't say it really bothers me. It's a little weird, but not a big deal. It would have been nice if I could full screen Logic, but still have a second monitor for tools, but I can deal with it. There are other features I'm much more interested in than that, personally.
 
I wonder what this means for FCP X and the other new ProApps? Speaking out the app across two monitors is a very common practice.


Lethal
 
... Is this serious? People are complaining that "full screen" (meaning one screen) does not work on more than one screen? Asinine.
 
If I remember correctly, I think full screen apps were pitched as a feature to maximize the use of screen real estate on small MBP's.
 
I wonder if full-screen apps will have the option of utilizing more than one display? (For example, if Aperture will show allow you to see the photo full-screen on one display, and move every other interface element to a second display...)
 
Maybe they'll fix it on the 10.7.1 release. But I can imagine that it's not their biggest priority at this moment. I mostly like the fullscreen apps (15"MBP), except maybe for some exceptions. I really prefer mission control to expose+spaces and all the new gestures. But I can't imagine why power users wouldn't want to upgrade to Lion. If you don't like full screen apps that much you just don't have to click that little button but for on the overall I like most of the little changes they made in Lion.
 
strabes said:
Full screen apps are going to be great for those of us with 11" MBAs.
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I have an 11" MBA and I honestly don't think fullscreen would make much of a difference. I have the dock on the left, not sure if that makes a difference. I could be wrong. I guess I'll have to wait and see when Lion comes out. Cant wait!:D
 
I've been complaining about this since the first videos of Lion started appearing.. It really is pretty annoying now I'm running the DP. I know I can just avoid full screen mode, but it's so *close* to being a useful addition. It really needs to be fixed, it's messed up.

I like the choice of photo.. And the giant Commodore Amiga pic..

Funniest multi-monitor bug/feature I've seen in DP4 so far is the lock screen only covers one of my monitors.. The other lets you use it without putting the password in the primary one. Not exactly high security. :eek:
 
Hopefully they can add some kind of full-screen multiple monitor support. I've got three monitors and I always have Mail open maximised in the left most screen. I'm sure if the full-screen version of Mail is nice in Lion then I'd like to have that take up that full screen rather than having just a maximised window.
 
Phil A. said:
Full screen apps always run on your main screen so if you full screen an app on your secondary monitor it moves across to the main screen and then goes full screen (it goes back when you revert)
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Whelp, that killed it. I intentionally leave the menu bar and dock on my secondary monitor because I use them rarely and they clutter the space. I could deal with shutting down unnecessary monitors, but don't move my stuff around.

I'm sure this will get sorted out with time, but I hope applications don't start assuming we'll be running full screen... I've already got this problem with TurboCad putting GUI elements on the primary screen and refusing to let me relocate them.

Which reminds me: don't buy TurboCad. The application hasn't been updated in years and IMSI support sucks. They claim 24 hour turn around on support requests and it takes weeks or months to respond by telling me "our developers suggest you search the internet for a solution".
 
blyan said:
... Is this serious? People are complaining that "full screen" (meaning one screen) does not work on more than one screen? Asinine.
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No, "one screen" means one screen. "Single screen" would also mean one screen. "Full screen" means using all of a screen. I don't see anything in the name implying that it would be some sort of semantic error to support a second display.

I think you may have assumed it would use a single screen, but then you know what they say happens when you assume...
 
This is a pretty big problem. Hopefully, they'll fix it. I want to be able to run two full-screen apps side by side using two monitors.
 
NG with XCode

I was just saying this to myself when this article popped up. Developing iApps with XCode, I set it to full screen, but when it comes time to run the app in the iPad simulator, that is a separate app. I want that to be on the second screen, but in full screen you can't do it. In full screen, you do get some more real estate in the window, but I can't use it because of the simulator problem.

Full screen should go full screen, but not all-screen. Let the second monitor be another desktop so you can have a second app, perhaps also full screen, on it.
 
Dang. I have two screens running off my MBP. I'm not that into the fullscreen apps anyways, I don't like being cut off from the menu bar.

However, this could change in a few years when they probably remove those options!
 
Andy-V said:
Apple should give an option to support multiple screens should an app have a reason to use two, but unsurprisingly most apps wouldn't lend themselves to appearing on two screens.
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Double-screen for one app might not often make sense, but having one app per screen would! Hard to believe Apple didn’t think of that in time to release Lion that way... but I have to believe multi-monitor support is planned. At the very least, let other non-fullscreen apps use those other screens.

Luckily, in the meantime, multi-monitor support still works as well as it always did. It just didn’t get better—and it could have!
 
Lion's Full Screen mode is obviously intended for laptop users with dinky little screens...but it's simply stupid to dim the other screens. just because it was intended for laptops (without an external screen) doesn't mean it should be useless for everyone else.
 
blyan said:
... Is this serious? People are complaining that "full screen" (meaning one screen) does not work on more than one screen? Asinine.
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I don't think people that's why people are complaining. The issue is that when putting an app into this mode, it effectively disables your additional monitors.

I'm sure someone will find a work around and there may even be some Mac app store utility that can re-enable it. I haven't had the chance to play with Lion yet, but I'm hoping they offer lots of customization options.

Anyone who has used Spaces with multiple monitors knows what I'm talking about. They aren't not exactly made for each other.
 
You know using the term "fail" marks you as a prepubescent teenager right? As does saying wow, just wow or using lots of exclamation points with mundane subjects.
Anyway.
Full screen mode is for people who want no distractions. It makes sense it would blank your other screens.
If you don't like this you can take the radical step of not using full screen mode. Awesome idea right?
 
Here's the workaround. Don't use full screen mode or make the app on your primary screen take up the whole screen with one whole click of your mouse.

Brenzo said:
I don't think people that's why people are complaining. The issue is that when putting an app into this mode, it effectively disables your additional monitors.

I'm sure someone will find a work around and there may even be some Mac app store utility that can re-enable it. I haven't had the chance to play with Lion yet, but I'm hoping they offer lots of customization options.

Anyone who has used Spaces with multiple monitors knows what I'm talking about. They aren't not exactly made for each other.
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eh, full screen hasn't seemed all to useful so far. i don't like the giant button in the upper right hand corner either. it should fade in when you mouse over.
 
Talk about a fail on Apples part.

If you are going to do full screen at least copy from someone who has been doing it for years and its works really well with multitple monitors is windows. When you full screen it goes full screen in that monitor and levels the other useful for putting references and what not. I do it all the time when I work.

One monitor will have my coding in it full screen. The other monitor contains any references and any testing I am running. For me my primary monitor is my laptop monitor but I do not work in that one. That is my external monitor that I do the work in and I dump reference stuff in the primary monitor.

nagromme said:
Double-screen for one app might not often make sense, but having one app per screen would! Hard to believe Apple didn’t think of that in time to release Lion that way... but I have to believe multi-monitor support is planned. At the very least, let other non-fullscreen apps use those other screens.

Luckily, in the meantime, multi-monitor support still works as well as it always did. It just didn’t get better—and it could have!
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depends on the App. I have seen excel be used very well across multiple monitors but you are right it is few and far between when having something span monitors is really useful. But yeah full screen multiple monitors is great.
 
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