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Users With Multiple Monitors: Lion's Full-Screen Apps Are Not For You

Andy-V said:
Apple should give an option to support multiple screens should an app have a reason to use two, but unsurprisingly most apps wouldn't lend themselves to appearing on two screens.
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Sixtafoua said:
Well, this sucks.
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jav6454 said:
Wow, fail...
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I feared this news was coming! I have been thinking about this and wondering ever since Apple showed off Final Cut X! I am a professional video producer and I am having to rethink my whole method and system of tools. It doesn't even look like the new Final Cut Studio apps will have dual screen modes. :( That AND Lion is really meant to be used with the Magic TrackPad and I'm not sure how I feel about using that for precise editing and media work.

I'm going to have to survey all these things as they come out over the next bit and make some decisions.
 
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I think that this solution is a good one because it is true that it is confusing if you have full screen apps over multiple screens. But I hope that using projectors with full screen apps will be okay. Is it? Hope Apple fixes it if it is so.
 
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C'mon Apple. This sounds very limiting. Why can I not use one monitor for full screen work, which I really like for writing etc, and at the same time use the other one for multiple less frequently used apps like checking mail, taking notes or making calendar inputs? I don't get this?!
 
Anonymous Freak said:
I wonder if full-screen apps will have the option of utilizing more than one display? (For example, if Aperture will show allow you to see the photo full-screen on one display, and move every other interface element to a second display...)
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Aperture currently offers this feature [and has since it was at version 1.0]. I run it with 2 full screens all the time - but it is a pro app, and pro apps handle full screen modes different than the 10.7 OS-wide feature, thankfully.
 
Given that many devs at Apple must have multiple screens to work on at once, not to mention to design department guys, I don't think this will be much of a problem.
 
DarwinOSX said:
You know using the term "fail" marks you as a prepubescent teenager right? As does saying wow, just wow or using lots of exclamation points with mundane subjects.
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You know how criticising others' minor traits to suit your own view of the world marks you as a curmudgeon, right? ;)
DarwinOSX said:
Full screen mode is for people who want no distractions. It makes sense it would blank your other screens.
If you don't like this you can take the radical step of not using full screen mode. Awesome idea right?
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Indeed. And for anything other than a laptop, the difference between running full screen and maximised window has got to be pretty slim.
 
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I think the main problem is that true full screen with no strings attached is still very useful, regardless of screen configuration - so apps like iphoto, aperture, VLC and Chrome - which already have excellent full screen/multi monitor implementation are going to have to end up supporting both methods. Pretty silly, all they need is a tickbox somewhere to toggle if you want distractions or not.

Apple are usually about getting a feature right, so the devs and everyone else jump on board and the user experience is simplified or improved. If this feature doesn't evolve its just going to make apps *more* confusing.
 
Will Lion have better implementation of OpenCL? Honestly I couldn't tell in Snow Leopard. Will OpenCL / Grand Central live up to its hype?
 
The-Pro said:
LOL!!! what a fail apple :D

I dont know why apple is so excited about full screen apps. I mean come on who wants iCal on full screen, especially when you use 2x30" and 2x23" screens!!!?? whats the point, like no kidding. I want my Safari window and pages doc open next to each other. I never ever make a window go across the entire screen apart from photoshop, illustrator, imovie, iphoto and formZ (which all need a fair amount of space :D)
Full screen is a feature i will use maybe like 2 times at the most to try it out!!
My opinion is apple should not make iOS and OS X become to similar, I dont want iOS running on 30" screens!!!, if i want to use iOS ill use my iPad!!!
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I promise, nobody is going to make you use an app in Full Screen mode.
 
Oooh! An SGI 1600SW monitor. Highest DPI of its time (and quite some time after it). I used to have one of those, but never found the necessary hardware to hook it up to my Mac, so I had to sell it. :(
 
So far no one seems to get the real problem...

Which is that you can't specify which monitor is the full screen one. I actually have three monitors, and the one on my right I use for email. I LOVE the new Lion Mail App. But you can only go full screen with the primary monitor, which in my case is the center one.

I could drag the little white bar in displays and make the right one primary, but that's not ideal. I had hoped I could just hold down option or command and make it go fullscreen on the current monitor, but no dice. Seems like a small thing to ask.

The P4 update fixed Safari in a big way, btw. Safari was leaking memory like crazy before, now it's snappy!
 
I've got two 27" ACD, and I'm also running Dev Preview 4 of OS X Lion, and to be honest I find fullscreen mode extremely useful. I always have mail open, but it can get in the road.. but if I make it fullscreen it's off on it's own and I can just swipe with two fingers across my magic mouse and boom I'm there. It's not in the road, it's looks magnificent as well.

At first it did bug me only being able to use the 1 screen, but then I relised how much easier it actually is just to have my Apps that I always use just to the side so when I need them they are there, but not in the road.
 
AFIK it is an issue in current versions of software when you go Full screen. If I go full Screen watching a video in iTunes, or editing photos in iPhoto, the other monitor simply goes black. Unless this has changed recently??
 
I agree it is a shame, however Mac users have become quite accustomed to multiple windows and swapping between them.

I am coming from a 13" MBP to a 27" iMac +24" secondary in the next week and will continue to work as I have done.:apple:
 
While full screen apps don't appeal to me at all, it would have been nice if they made it such that one could run multiple full screen apps, one on each monitor.
 
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ImageWrangler said:
The guy had me at Asteroids on the ceiling but then lost me at the creepy huge Princess Leia.
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+1 :-(
 
As a two-screen user both at home and by university I am very disappointed! :(

It's a shame that neither Apple or Microsoft can come up with a good multi-desktop strategy. At least on Windows there are good 3rd party options but on Mac OS we're left with the menubar stuck to the one screen. It would be great if the menu would follow the active application.

I've actually found lately that I will use Teleport between my MBP and my iMac - 3 screens, 2 menus, 2 docks. Looks like I'll keep doing this with Lion.
 
Truffy said:
That's either a low ceiling or a high desk. I get the feeling that I couldn't stand up without cracking my skull.
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The ceiling is about 6'3.5" from the carpeted floor. I am about 6'2" tall. It works out fine.

It's a basement room with sub-optimal ceiling height.




blakespot
 
It's just in line with the ridicilous dual monitor problems that SL (still) has. iPhoto fullscreen in second monitor, clicking on another app results in iPhoto moving out of fullscreen. I'm not working in fullscreen iPhoto for the sake of focus. I use it fullscreen to enhance the look and the use of all the pixels on my screen. But I want to browse the web in Safari at the same time.
And then there are games, always rendering the second display black. Fullscreen Quicktime movie…clicking another app and your movie is not full-screen anymore. Does Apple not use dual monitor setups at their office?
 
Sander said:
Oooh! An SGI 1600SW monitor. Highest DPI of its time (and quite some time after it). I used to have one of those, but never found the necessary hardware to hook it up to my Mac, so I had to sell it. :(
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Yea, I grabbed that SGI 1600SW new-in-box back in 2001 or so off of eBay, to go along with a SGI O2 I also grabbed.

http://blakespot.com/sgi/

I ended up shelving the O2 (there's only so much space in my basement computer room) to make room for a TRS-80 Model IV.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/2498797229/in/set-72157604743399188

I then got the 1600SW working with the Mac Pro with a GFX-1600SW Multilink Adapter.

http://www.bytecellar.com/2008/02/13/the_sgi_1600sw/

...but, have since shelved the 1600SW and setup the ACD 20 I had in my dayjob office in its place, since I quit the dayjob for TouchArcade.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/5390048495/in/set-72157604301199984

The 1600SW is, indeed, quite a dense display, or was for the day. A little too dense for my liking as compared to the ACD 20. It's a better setup now, if a little less unique. :)




blakespot
 
The full-screen mode in Lion was obviously going to be an issue with multi-display setups. Anyone who's used full-screen apps before could see this, I would thing. (Full-screen apps have been written for a long time before Lion was ever mentioned.) I'm not sure what all the outcry is about.

Just run the app in a window that's fully expanded. Yes, it's not quite as cool a wall-to-wall experience, but I'd expect things to be quite workable.




blakespot
 
Uh, IOS for POWER USERS?!!?!:confused:

Mac OS X is IOS 1.0 for the Mac, FAIL!:mad:

Full screen apps on 2x30 inch monitors?:eek:

Apple, admit it, you are dumping the Macs for IOS, iPods, iPads and iPhones..........:(

I will MISS you Apple, the way you were! Different, stable and POWERFUL!
 
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