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Not so fast. The reviews don't say it doesn't work, they just describe "inconvenience" or "latency."

The first is having to make the connection each time ( still works), that's only inconvenient if you watch a movie everyday or you want to use it for every TV show, too. But it'll do for movies until AirPlay 2 comes out, then it'll most likely be fine.

The second - Gruber describes latency/lag but he only mentions a lag between voice controls and when the action occurs. He does not say a video and its sound is out of sync. Does any of the reviews describe a syncing problem where an actors spoken words don't match up with his lips moving? I haven't read that and if they're not mentioning it, it's probably not happening.

So it works, right? Start the movie, sit back and watch it with the sound coming from HomePod. How it sounds overall in this role remains to be seen(heard), but don't rule it out yet as a replacement for crappy TV speakers, and while there are great soundbars out there, lots of soundbars out there are crappy, too. We'll find out in two days.

I'm pretty sure Apple would love to enhance the Apple TV this way.

I tried this setup and it sounds great, the movie and audio were perfectly synchronized (it was IronMan on iTunes, which I know well and use for comparison). I have not tried issuing Siri commands in that setup. The bass was there but the image separation wasn't really there, I am impatient to test with 2 HomePods, and then test again 'later this year' when a software update brings the feature of using 2 HomePods as a stereo pair.
 
This same question has been haunting me as well. I’ve come up with this idea...
Use an iPod with 11.3 and hook the headphone jack up with RCA cables to the LPE side of a powered subwoofer. Boom, you’ve got your sub.
Now I ABSOLUTELY HATE WIRES, so I’ve taken it a step further but am hitting a wall.
I want two HomePods up front next to my tv, but I want at least a 5.1 like setup. I’ve got the sound bar part figured out by using the homepods and the sub is handled as well but what about the back? Well I’ve come up with this... I said I hate wired, right? I don’t feel like tearing up baseboards or crawling through my attic. Altec Lansing makes a pretty damned decent little speaker that can be paired with another of the same model. They cost a little over $100. The batteries last 50 hours. And they do pair via Bluetooth but hear me out.... I don’t mind power cords, I just don’t like running two fifty foot speaker cables to each side of the back of my room.. so each one of the Altecs would be plugged into the wall. So how to get sound to them? I’m a car stereo enthusiast. There is a device called a speak line converter. You use them if you want to keep a factory car stereo but install an amplifier and better speakers to your ride. Basically you just hook them up to the speaker output of your stereo to a line converter and it converts the output to RCA jacks. OK, now what? I’ve got my sub and homepods figured out, and two Altecs paired to each other waiting for input. Well on my home theater receiver I have my rear surround speakers outputs hooked up to a line converter but I need to get a signal to the Altecs. Well, they make these little boxes that pair via WiFi. I’m thinking about hooking them up and crossing the gap between the receiver and the Altecs. I’ll let you know how it works once they arrive. The biggest hurdle I’m seeing is having the receiver, homepods, and iPod receiving sound at the same time since the receiver isn’t airplay2 compatible.

I’d stop tinkering and if that is the priority simply go for Sonos.

Me, I chased my cables inside the walls, I hid the run back to the amp between the grip rods and carpet underlay. Totally hidden, nothing visible. Took no more than a day.
 
Was able to pause, play, skip back and forward a movie playing on the Apple TV 4K by talking to the HomePod... Or do you mean full control as in: "Hey Siri, start Netflix on the Apple TV in the living room"?
Really? Because you can’t do this using Siri on an iPhone. That’s great news! Do you need to be airplaying to the Apple TV to do this?

Yeah hopefully more advanced controls will come in future
 
Really? Because you can’t do this using Siri on an iPhone. That’s great news! Do you need to be airplaying to the Apple TV to do this?

Yeah hopefully more advanced controls will come in future

Haven't tested it without airplaying to the HomePod from the Apple TV. I'll try to do that when I get home.
 
I’d stop tinkering and if that is the priority simply go for Sonos.

Me, I chased my cables inside the walls, I hid the run back to the amp between the grip rods and carpet underlay. Totally hidden, nothing visible. Took no more than a day.
No use reinventing the wheel I guess...
 
@Jamie0003

Doesn't work when you don't airplay to the HomePod :-(
Shame. Hopefully in the next release it'll come. I can't see any other reason why Apple would all of a sudden add the Apple TV to the Home app in iOS 11.3 if they weren't going to be enabling more features for home automation/siri use...
 
For those who have the ATV and HomePod, do you now regularly use the HP as the speakers for stuff you watch on ATV?

I’m planning on using my new ATV 4K for Netflix.

Does AirPlay mirroring from my MacBook work with the HP too?
 
In 11.3 Beta 3 the Apple TV is removed again in the Home.app... Guess we'll see where this is all going...

My HomePod is too far away from my tv to use it, it's too obvious the sound is coming from somewhere else, so I don't use it. Am planning to get a 2nd HomePod when AirPlay 2 is released and I will test it it with the ATV, without a doubt.
 
I'm using my Homepod as a "soundbar" in my bedroom. It works fine with an Apple TV and everything's in sync. Apple is a pain in the ass with lack of bluetooth support so I had to go out and get an Apple TV.

Because the bass performance is so good it actually rivals a sound bar with a separate sub. I have a Samsung H-751 that has a separate 8 inch sub. It's low frequency extension is 40hz in my room. From measurements on Sound and Vision for another Samsung sound bar with a similar sub that sounds about right.

I also measured the homepod's low frequency extension to 40hz in my room. I couldn't quite believe it but it's on par with a separate sound bar sub.

80% of the sound in any movie is delivered via the center speaker (Sound Reproduction: Loudspeakers and Rooms book Ch 8 pg 122) and that'll be even higher for TV. Since the homepod is a point source it really does work well as a sound bar for a bedroom like situation. I was shocked at some of the demo clips I was playing, like the IMAX never compromise clip (on YouTube). It sounded great.

I wouldn't recommend it for anything but a bedroom/mobile use type situation though. Although 80% of the sound is from a center speaker when important things happen on screen you generally need at least stereo to expand the sound.

A good sound bar does that. A good sound bar will also let you play at much higher volumes. In a bedroom or a hotel that's not important - but at home in your living room you want something with more volume. The homepod can get loud, but in doing so it's only increasing the mid-range and the treble volume. It'll sound louder but the bass won't increase proportionally.

I'm constantly amazed by this little thing. I'm a home theater nerd and have multiple SVS subwoofers that play to 115db at 8hz - it's never going to replace that but for a bedroom sound bar and a speaker for Air b n B's it's perfect. There's no other speaker out there I can take on my carry on that gives me this performance!
 
I am finding the sound to be significantly quieter when attached to my TV, to the point that it isn’t worth it for me. Anyone else see this?
 
I am finding the sound to be significantly quieter when attached to my TV, to the point that it isn’t worth it for me. Anyone else see this?

The sound is limited to 80% when using it with Apple TV, for some reason.

I've been using mine with my apple Tv and PJ and it's working brilliantly for me. The PJ has to be brought out and set up each time I want to use it, so a permanent surround sound isn't really something I want. Really happy with what the HP is giving me, having previously used a Bose speaker for the same purpose. Just waiting for AirPlay 2 now so I can use at least two of my three homepods
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I just created a related thread to keep track of audio sync problems:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/homepod-audio-sync-when-using-airplay.2117108/

Was this really necessary? Isn't the general rule of thumb that it will work with iTunes content/Apple Hardware as it has a built in 2 second delay?
 
The sound is limited to 80% when using it with Apple TV, for some reason.

I've been using mine with my apple Tv and PJ and it's working brilliantly for me. The PJ has to be brought out and set up each time I want to use it, so a permanent surround sound isn't really something I want. Really happy with what the HP is giving me, having previously used a Bose speaker for the same purpose. Just waiting for AirPlay 2 now so I can use at least two of my three homepods
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Was this really necessary? Isn't the general rule of thumb that it will work with iTunes content/Apple Hardware as it has a built in 2 second delay?

I wonder if I have some setting switched or need to adjust my set up, because my HomePod seemed a lot lower than 80%. I typically listen to music around 65% and it seems plenty loud, but I had trouble hearing the words on the TV even when it was up all the way. I will explore it a bit more since it sounds that might have been an anommolous experience.
 
Here's my take. I have a KEF 5.1 surround egg style speaker system.
Great, however after re-decorating I decided to see how I'd do with just the HomePod as a sound-bar. I actually didn't mind it apart from the distinct lack in volume. It does a great job and as my media is all via Apple TV it works for me.
One thing to keep in mind though. If you are accessing an app thats not using the Apple media player (like a iptv app for example) you'll experience a delay in the audio due to airplay. I very rarely use iptv so it wasn't a big deal personally.

The question is, why did I resort to setting up my KEF 5.1 again? Simply, God of War came out on the PlayStation. It was then that I remembered what I'd been missing. True surround! My HomePod in the living room has now been demoted to smart home commands and a relay for phone calls with the odd bit of Apple Music and podcast playback. Still useful but maybe not worth the money in hindsight (I have 2). I'll hold off from buying more...
 
Here's my take. I have a KEF 5.1 surround egg style speaker system.
Great, however after re-decorating I decided to see how I'd do with just the HomePod as a sound-bar. I actually didn't mind it apart from the distinct lack in volume. It does a great job and as my media is all via Apple TV it works for me.
One thing to keep in mind though. If you are accessing an app thats not using the Apple media player (like a iptv app for example) you'll experience a delay in the audio due to airplay. I very rarely use iptv so it wasn't a big deal personally.

The question is, why did I resort to setting up my KEF 5.1 again? Simply, God of War came out on the PlayStation. It was then that I remembered what I'd been missing. True surround! My HomePod in the living room has now been demoted to smart home commands and a relay for phone calls with the odd bit of Apple Music and podcast playback. Still useful but maybe not worth the money in hindsight (I have 2). I'll hold off from buying more...

Yeah, it is definitely not a replacement for a dedicated sound system. I am getting ready to go back to school for my doctorate, so I don’t want to invest in anything too bulky and don’t want to spend too much more money since I am going to cut my working time so much (so probably not worth the money for me either...). Once I finish up school I definitely want to invest in something dedicated for TV.
 
I want to get an Sony AF8 OLED, that has great sound on its own.
But I want to hook up 2 HomePods as well by using an Apple tv(when stereo is enabled).
But when I connect my Apple TV straight to the Sony OLED by hdmi, I can only choose to output sound through hdmi to the tv or I can choose to use AirPlay for the HomePod. Not both at the same time.

Is there a workaround for something like that?
 
The sound is limited to 80% when using it with Apple TV, for some reason.

I've been using mine with my apple Tv and PJ and it's working brilliantly for me. The PJ has to be brought out and set up each time I want to use it, so a permanent surround sound isn't really something I want. Really happy with what the HP is giving me, having previously used a Bose speaker for the same purpose. Just waiting for AirPlay 2 now so I can use at least two of my three homepods
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Was this really necessary? Isn't the general rule of thumb that it will work with iTunes content/Apple Hardware as it has a built in 2 second delay?

What’s a PJ?
 
I want to get an Sony AF8 OLED, that has great sound on its own.
But I want to hook up 2 HomePods as well by using an Apple tv(when stereo is enabled).
But when I connect my Apple TV straight to the Sony OLED by hdmi, I can only choose to output sound through hdmi to the tv or I can choose to use AirPlay for the HomePod. Not both at the same time.

Is there a workaround for something like that?

If you’re trying to output audio from the TV and HomePods at the same time, then this is a case where less is more.
 
Hey everyone,

For years I have wanted to build my own home cinema, and when I moved out of my parent’s place and into my own, I finally decided to take the plunge. So in my living room I have a full 7.1 setup, and while not the most high end speakers you can buy, they look and sound great. I have a Q acoustics 3000 setup with the big front tower speakers.

However, over time I have realised just how much of a detriment to my living room they are. They really do take over the room, and I have the space for it but there’s not much room for anything else.

I have been thinking of downsizing to a soundbar, or I could go for smaller speakers, but I am also very curious about the homepod. I have been an apple person for years, all my stuff is Apple so it will fit me perfectly, and I could easily sell what I have and buy a couple homepods for my living room, maybe more.

Bear in mind I know homepod is never going to sound as good as a home theatre setup, and may not even be able to do 2.1 ch audio, but maybe the space savings would be worth it to me.

However, I have some questions on this kind of setup, and I’m sure they will get answered as we get nearer to the release this week. So here they are;

First and foremost, I know that you can pair a homepod with an Apple TV, and if you were to turn off airplay on this particular speaker, you could realistically have it connected at all times (Instead airplaying to the Apple TV). However, the obvious limitation here is the fact that it’ll only work with an Apple TV, and not other sources connected to the TV.

Will the Apple TV be able to passthru the audio via ARC? Or would you be able to do this via a receiver? This is obviously no good if I have to use my TV’s speakers for every other source.

I understand the homepod isn’t designed to be used as a soundbar, but if you think about it, it could be possible, obviously providing Apple add the software support for it. It has multiple speakers, and if you placed one directly under your TV, I would imagine it would fill the room better than a home theatre speaker can? Since those speakers generally only point towards the listener and the Homepod can direct sound all around the room. I doubt it would be able to do 2.1 channel audio, even with two of them, but I also wonder whether Atmos is possible too? I’m not sure whether the homepod can direct audio at the celling however. Again, this would require Apple providing the software to work in this setup, which I don’t think it can currently do, but would be awesome if it could.

Another advantage of having it connected to an Apple TV would be instead of having a homepod off to the side of the room, it would be right in the centre, ready to take commands, and if you were to speak to it, I’m pretty sure it’s capable of pausing your movie while it listens to you for example, and again if Apple added in the software support, it would be able to control Apple TV too. Hopefully this stuff is coming at WWDC. I would love to be able to walk into my living room and tell Siri to start playing a TV show instantly, or maybe load up Youtube for example.

Anyway, just thought I would get a discussion going and see what you all think! I’m no audiophile, and I do understand quite a bit about home theatre but my setup has become very cumbersome, and some simplification would be nice.

I have a 5.1 setup and I am watching the Bourne ultimatum and although it sounds great for the sound effects, the dialog isn't that great. I am now using HomePods in a stereo pair configuration, the same movie, the dialog is very clear and the sound effects are just as good. I barely notice the difference. It sounds great! So I am convinced that the HomePod pairs make for a great sound system for watching movies. I already knew it was great for music. I am now planning to get rid of my 5.1 system. The bass on the pair of home pods are pretty good compared to a separate sub. I am using it with AppleTV (not the 4K) and I have set the Audio to be the AppleTV and HomePod. I don't have a problem with it. When I turn off the TV, I just tell Hey Siri, stop!
 
I want to get an Sony AF8 OLED, that has great sound on its own.
But I want to hook up 2 HomePods as well by using an Apple tv(when stereo is enabled).
But when I connect my Apple TV straight to the Sony OLED by hdmi, I can only choose to output sound through hdmi to the tv or I can choose to use AirPlay for the HomePod. Not both at the same time.

Is there a workaround for something like that?
You have to do it from an iPhone or iPad. In the iOS Control center, you can choose to have the sound simultaneously go to both the TV and the HomePod(s).
 
Hey everyone,

For years I have wanted to build my own home cinema, and when I moved out of my parent’s place and into my own, I finally decided to take the plunge. So in my living room I have a full 7.1 setup, and while not the most high end speakers you can buy, they look and sound great. I have a Q acoustics 3000 setup with the big front tower speakers.

However, over time I have realised just how much of a detriment to my living room they are. They really do take over the room, and I have the space for it but there’s not much room for anything else.

I have been thinking of downsizing to a soundbar, or I could go for smaller speakers, but I am also very curious about the homepod. I have been an apple person for years, all my stuff is Apple so it will fit me perfectly, and I could easily sell what I have and buy a couple homepods for my living room, maybe more.

Bear in mind I know homepod is never going to sound as good as a home theatre setup, and may not even be able to do 2.1 ch audio, but maybe the space savings would be worth it to me.

However, I have some questions on this kind of setup, and I’m sure they will get answered as we get nearer to the release this week. So here they are;

First and foremost, I know that you can pair a homepod with an Apple TV, and if you were to turn off airplay on this particular speaker, you could realistically have it connected at all times (Instead airplaying to the Apple TV). However, the obvious limitation here is the fact that it’ll only work with an Apple TV, and not other sources connected to the TV.

Will the Apple TV be able to passthru the audio via ARC? Or would you be able to do this via a receiver? This is obviously no good if I have to use my TV’s speakers for every other source.

I understand the homepod isn’t designed to be used as a soundbar, but if you think about it, it could be possible, obviously providing Apple add the software support for it. It has multiple speakers, and if you placed one directly under your TV, I would imagine it would fill the room better than a home theatre speaker can? Since those speakers generally only point towards the listener and the Homepod can direct sound all around the room. I doubt it would be able to do 2.1 channel audio, even with two of them, but I also wonder whether Atmos is possible too? I’m not sure whether the homepod can direct audio at the celling however. Again, this would require Apple providing the software to work in this setup, which I don’t think it can currently do, but would be awesome if it could.

Another advantage of having it connected to an Apple TV would be instead of having a homepod off to the side of the room, it would be right in the centre, ready to take commands, and if you were to speak to it, I’m pretty sure it’s capable of pausing your movie while it listens to you for example, and again if Apple added in the software support, it would be able to control Apple TV too. Hopefully this stuff is coming at WWDC. I would love to be able to walk into my living room and tell Siri to start playing a TV show instantly, or maybe load up Youtube for example.

Anyway, just thought I would get a discussion going and see what you all think! I’m no audiophile, and I do understand quite a bit about home theatre but my setup has become very cumbersome, and some simplification would be nice.

Bottom line. Only your ears can answer your question.

I guess home cinema can mean different things to different people. Personally a HomePod or two or three, cannot complete with a decent home theater system. At least not with one that has room correction like Audyssey and a processor, amp, and sub. Even then it still comes down to personal preference.
 
For home cinema you will always need a dedicated sub in my opinion

The Sub and Center Channel are glaring shortcomings on the device. No one is comparing HomePod to a sound bar, but I'm almost certain it cannot compete with even a $200-$300 sound bar for television applications.

I disagree about the sub comments. I've done some tests with deep bass. Bruno Mars' "Just the Way you are" has a low repeating bass note that goes down to 50 Hz. I have some theater organ music which shakes the pictures off my neighbors walls if I crank it up on my 5.1 system. The HomePod stereo pair does a very decent job on all of the deep bass tracks I've played on it, given that its price is a fraction of what I paid for my main speakers. Right now I'm listening to some theater organ music on the HomePods because I don't want to fire up my entire 5.1 system (apple TV, receiver, TV, Oppo DAC, speakers) and I'm just doing background listening. It's just so much easier to use.

But there are a lot of other issues using HomePods as home theater speakers, as mentioned above.
 
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