Apple better be in the lab making sure that the iPhone 6s is hot stuff. Because it's not just Samsung; its the Chinese releasing $125 iPhone 6 plus clones running Android. Head over to phonearena.com to see what I'm talking about.
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USPTO Invalidates One of Apple's iPhone Design Patents in Apple vs. Samsung Lawsuit
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http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/samsung/samsung-ativ-s-new1.jpg - released in 2012
and please, don't act like apple invented, say, fingerprint sensors or touchscreens. they just refined old tech and made it more popular, but talk about them and patent them as if they invented it.
It's not Apple that has to worry, it's Samsung, htc, Motorola. Of course getting critical support might be an issue, but for then price buy another phone.
FYI
You just defined what a patent is. 99.99% of all patents are refinements or improvements over existing patents, ideas and technology. In fact, nearly all of patent applications include known similar technology as background information at the very beginning and then describe how their implementation is novel. Therefore, there can be millions of novel ways to implement fingerprint sensors or touch screens, and rightfully be granted a patent.
The concpet people normally have of an invention is impossible to implement (nor would make sense) into a system written in law.
Apple v Samsung? I still just don't care. Sure I'd buy an iPhone over a Samsung phone any day, I still don't care. Sure I like Apple and I've been a fan since the early 90s and I still don't care.
This is such a non-issue.
This is such a non-issue.
Design patents like this are an example of IP legislation gone overboard. I'm all for protecting copyrights for creative works, trademarks for brands, and patents for useful inventions, but this stuff gets ridiculous.
Why does this comment feel like a bot that reads headlines and posts this same thing evervywhere without reading the story?
REinvention and creating the spark in the market that establishes the consumer demand for technology is just as valid as the invention of technology itself. Technology is nothing without a product and a purpose. Apple invents PRODUCTS, not necessarily technology. That's probably the biggest misunderstanding people have about Apple. Developing compelling uses of technology that causes consumer lust, and also making it ACCESSIBLE price-wise to the consumer market, is not exactly easy. Otherwise finger print sensors, capacitive multitouch handhelds, etc would have been established consumer market features long before Apple got involved. The raw technology for these things existed years before Apple contributed. Apple took these things, brought the prices down for mass market scale, reinvented the technology to make it BETTER and scalable, and turned them into finished products.
So many people in technology don't understand the difference between technology and products. They think technology IS the product. Larry Ellison said it well in his D conference tribute to Steve Jobs. Ideas and products are two completely different things. Apple/Steve Jobs assembled puzzles of ideas into finished, brilliant consumer products.
How patentable is an entire picture rather than the individual components? Well Apple clearly believes that the entire puzzle should be considered, and not just the individual technology components.
Agree. The system is a mess; the law should be changed. The legal standard will now be: "Yojimbo007 says 'any idiot can see you copied and now you owe Apple $X million dollars.' So you now owe Apple $X million."
I'm sure you will faithfully apply that same standard to Apple the next time they are sued in E.D. Texas.
FOSS Patents reported tonight that the Central Reexamination Division of the United States Patent and Trademark Office has reexamined one of the key iPhone design patents in the Apple vs. Samsung lawsuit. The validity of one of the patents (618,677) has received a non-final rejection: Apple was originally awarded over $1 billion from the original lawsuit, but that amount has been reduced substantially to about $548 million in damages. Aside from this particular design patent, Apple still has other claims that have not been reduced or invalidated from the previous decision.
Samsung was most recently denied their latest appeal attempt, leaving them with the only option of turning to the U.S. Supreme Court. It appears this invalidation has no direct impact on the current standing of the lawsuit, but may help Samsung in their appeal to the Supreme Court.
Article Link: USPTO Invalidates One of Apple's iPhone Design Patents in Apple vs. Samsung Lawsuit
Of course the patent system is broken, but there is a different philosophy between Apple and Samsung. Apple has a long history of buying small companies to gain patents and designs. People get usually paid for their work. That doesn't mean they've always done that, but certainly more than Samsung. Samsung is HQ'd in South Korea and can easily just steal similar designs and hide behind their government's loose laws, which are nowhere near as strict as ours and then turn it over to the lawyers who usually put the small companies out of business or settle for pennies on the dollar. That is their M.O. from day 1 unlike Apple. I don't think Apple deserves a billion dollars here, nor does hardly anybody, but they should get a victory of some kind. Making so many parts for the iPhone makes it way too easy for Samsung to not steal some things. It's just too easy.
Wait! So when Samsung, HTC and Motorola are replaced by Chinese OEM'S making $150 flagships your telling me that Apple has nothing to worry about?
Like it or not Apple needs Samsung alive to make $600 to $1000 flagships. The number one reason why the Moto X Pure is the talk of the town is because it's a $400 flagship. My gut feeling is that Apple rather have competitor flagships at $600 vs $150. Can't see how Apple is rooting for cheap Chinese phones.
As a Android user it's a win win situation.
My toes sure would love rounded corners on my bed frame, but I couldn't round them of because of Apple.
.... It appears this invalidation has no direct impact on the current standing of the lawsuit, but may help Samsung in their appeal to the Supreme Court.
Article Link: USPTO Invalidates One of Apple's iPhone Design Patents in Apple vs. Samsung Lawsuit
When you take a case to the Supreme Court, you cannot introduce new evidence into the argument. They only rule on the prior case or procedure in lower courts, not introduction of new material. That is not the Supreme Court process.
Apple should pay up considering iPhone 6 Plus and upcoming iOS 9 split view and PiP is a half ass copy with half the DRAM, no precision pen, no SAMOLED, no background multitasking, etc. of the Galaxy Note II from 2012.
Apple is not motivated by Samsung to create a better iPhone. They are motivated by their drive to create the best device for consumers. Period.
I don't think apples target market will be affected by this but you never know.
Nonsense. Apple has stepped up their development of the OS in many ways when Android started becoming a real competitor. iOS would be nowhere near the point where it is now if it wouldn't have neem for the pressure that others are exerting on Apple. Many functions that are in iOS now were introduced on Android first.
Best hardware example: iPhone 6plus
Best software example: notification center
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Like what? HealthKit, home kit, continuity, handoff and FaceTime. Ok iMessage is a rip-off of sms.