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Vaja Also Hints at iPhone Nano?

Ok.... I really need to voice out here:

I see no point of having an iPhone Nano coming out. I mean, there will probably be less features with it- and I don't think any features are needed to be taken away from the iPhone.
Additionally, I can picture that iPhone Nano being shorter and smaller (of course). But, if you think about it, with a shorter phone how the heck is it going to reach our mouth to pick up our voice? Say the iPhone Nano was an inch shorter, it doesn't even reach my mouth, and just covers my ear!

I can see it coming out to be a cheap alternative for people who do not want to spend the money for a full blown iPhone.

But I don't know- I just can't see it happening for some reason.

The next update for the iPhone I see is just it being bumped up to 32GB.

Sorry if I made anyone mad about my rant. :eek: It's out of my system.
 
Tallest Skil said:
A higher DPI screen means the same resolution, but smaller physical dimensions, MEANS THE KEYBOARD BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE TO TYPE ON.
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Depends - if it was the same width but just not as tall, then the keyboard would be the same size (vertically).
 
QCassidy352 said:
The only practical way to shrink the iphone, IMO, is to cut down on the black space on the top and bottom, not to shrink the screen. Shrink the screen and you lose so much in terms of video, games, typing ability, etc.
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Exactly. Anyone with photoshopping skills please make a little mock-up of this design and post.

They could possibly keep the same screen size, cut down a bit on the home button area and earpiece area maybe making each a bit smaller.

I do not have a current iphone in front of me (or even own one yet for the matter...yes STILL waiting) but people look at your iphones right now. Look how much room there still is to work with between the top and bottom of your screen towards the top and bottom edges of the phone itself. I've played with the phone in store enough and studied this visually time and time again. Looks to me like apple could maybe figure out a way to shorten the phone length wise maybe even keeping the earpiece the same size and maybe changing the "round" shaped home button to, i dunno, a small bar of sorts or maybe even ovalize it somehow. :cool:

The same method, only backwards, I believe would work for the next version of the uh...normal iphone, hehe. Make that screen a slight bit bigger, downsizing the 'home' and 'earpiece' and keep the same overall size as the current 3g.

Imagine this and I think it makes sense. Does to me anyhow. :D
 
randomusername said:
An iPhone Nano will have 3G. I don't know people are thinking otherwise. EVERY feature phone has 3G now. The only ones with it are basic phones. And it'll obviously have WiFi because of the iTunes music store. I can imagine GPS getting the boot but I wouldn't be surprised if it's included.
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Why wouldn't the iPhone nano be a basic phone? The iPhone is hardly a smartphone (and it's not supposed to be one). A basic phone should be able to do call, SMS, basic calendar and address book. And maybe a camera.

The iPhone 3G and the iPod touch are selling pretty well. Having an iPhone nano with basically the same functionality would only cannibalize sales.

I can imagine a smaller iPhone without WIFI, no app store, no safari, landscape-only keyboard and basic phone functionaliy. For, you know, people that need a cell phone and not a big expensive high tech toy. Most non-geek people over 40 are kinda scared of complicated phones with many features. Here's a demographic (an ever growing one actually) Apple has problems selling the iPhone to. So basic features is the way to go. Make a pre-paid version and you can get the kids too because parents can control how much they spend on calls and such.
 
The ''iPhone Nano rip-off'' in Spain isn't really an iPhone Nano rip-off, it's an mp4-player and they've been selling it for months at my local toys store in the Netherlands.
 
Let me follow up my previous post by saying It doesn't make sense to me that apple would release a brand new iphone nearly 1 week after christmas holidays when they know a lot of folks got that 'iphone3g gift card' under the tree and rushed out to buy one the next day. Wouldn't that sort of kill sells of any new device a week later and piss a bunch of iphone newlyweds off?

So, they would release a brand new phone 1 week later after people not in "the know" (as far as following apples every move) purchased the current iphone 3g. If the iphone was a less capable device as the current iphone 3G then it may be 'cheaper' correct? Could this rival the $200 price drop from original iphone owners in '07?

I dunno, just doesn't make much sense to me. Someone help me understand please.

In the meantime, I still havn't purchased an iphone and love getting excited for new products, so this is still fun to me! :D
 
IndyJonez said:
I do not have a current iphone in front of me (or even own one yet for the matter...yes STILL waiting) but people look at your iphones right now. Look how much room there still is to work with between the top and bottom of your screen towards the top and bottom edges of the phone itself. I've played with the phone in store enough and studied this visually time and time again. Looks to me like apple could maybe figure out a way to shorten the phone length wise maybe even keeping the earpiece the same size and maybe changing the "round" shaped home button to, i dunno, a small bar of sorts or maybe even ovalize it somehow. :cool:
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Apple tried the whole shortening thing with the 3rd Gen iPod nano. That thing is very awkward to use because the clickwheel is too close to the bottom and it's not tall enough to fit comfortably in your hand. Lots of bigger phones with big displays tend to have tiny buttons at the very bottom which makes the whole thing very top-heavy. You basically have to balance it over your index fingers to type comfortably with your thumbs.

Small is good, but there's a limit somewhere if human interaction is involved. Thumbdrives are lost, guitar picks are gone forever, cell phones fall through sewage grilles, small kids put it all in their mouthes...
 
MrCrowbar said:
Apple tried the whole shortening thing with the 3rd Gen iPod nano. That thing is very awkward to use because the clickwheel is too close to the bottom and it's not tall enough to fit comfortably in your hand. Lots of bigger phones with big displays tend to have tiny buttons at the very bottom which makes the whole thing very top-heavy. You basically have to balance it over your index fingers to type comfortably with your thumbs.

Small is good, but there's a limit somewhere if human interaction is involved. Thumbdrives are lost, guitar picks are gone forever, cell phones fall through sewage grilles, small kids put it all in their mouthes...
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You have a point that makes sense.

I can't argue this issue as, assuming you have a current iphone, you would know first hand over me.
 
I would be quite upset if they changed the home button.

MrCrowbar said:
Why wouldn't the iPhone nano be a basic phone? The iPhone is hardly a smartphone (and it's not supposed to be one). A basic phone should be able to do call, SMS, basic calendar and address book. And maybe a camera.

The iPhone 3G and the iPod touch are selling pretty well. Having an iPhone nano with basically the same functionality would only cannibalize sales.

I can imagine a smaller iPhone without WIFI, no app store, no safari, landscape-only keyboard and basic phone functionaliy. For, you know, people that need a cell phone and not a big expensive high tech toy. Most non-geek people over 40 are kinda scared of complicated phones with many features. Here's a demographic (an ever growing one actually) Apple has problems selling the iPhone to. So basic features is the way to go. Make a pre-paid version and you can get the kids too because parents can control how much they spend on calls and such.
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Well, I expect the iPhone nano to not be watered down as much as you think.
- I believe that if it does have 3G, internet won't be effected by that so you will have to be connected to use wifi for the internet.
- Only 74 spaces for apps.
- No built in apps store.
- No GPS.
 
MrCrowbar said:
Why wouldn't the iPhone nano be a basic phone? The iPhone is hardly a smartphone (and it's not supposed to be one). A basic phone should be able to do call, SMS, basic calendar and address book. And maybe a camera.
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minus the Wi-Fi icon of course.
 
nfl46 said:
Someone posted a website where you can check domains. I believe it said 1995 though. I'll try an find it.
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This guy's had it since 2006:

# whois iphonenano.com
[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.fabulous.com]
[Querying whois.fabulous.com]
[whois.fabulous.com]

Domain iphonenano.com:

4-66 Prospekt Zhukova
Moscow, 154260 RU

Administrative contact:
Technical contact:
Billing contact:

Vlad Simonov
vlad.simv@googlemail.com
4-66 Prospekt Zhukova
Moscow, 154260 RU
Phone: +916.3267718
Fax:

Record dates:
Record created on: 2006-08-11 23:30:57 UTC
Record modified on: 2008-07-15 13:50:51 UTC
Record expires on: 2009-08-11 UTC

Nameservers:
ns1.fabulous.com:
64.15.205.211
ns2.fabulous.com:
64.15.205.212
 
mrgreen4242 said:
That would be (pardon the language for those of you who don't have the cursing filter on) ****ing horrible.

Thing about what you're saying for a minute. Combine handwriting recognition, which is spotty at best, with an unnatural writing gesture (you don't write with your finger, you right with a stick held in your hand/palm).
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Not with a smooth screen, it's not that hard to write with your finger.


nfl46 said:
Apple had this domain since 1995.
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The whois database was down at the time that I posted this comment, but they possibly bought it out recently.

Unless, how did you figure out that they were the ones who bought it in 1995? - just curious.


UPDATE: IPHONENANO.COM IS NOT REGISTERED BY APPLE.COM
 
MrCrowbar said:
Why wouldn't the iPhone nano be a basic phone? The iPhone is hardly a smartphone (and it's not supposed to be one). A basic phone should be able to do call, SMS, basic calendar and address book. And maybe a camera.

The iPhone 3G and the iPod touch are selling pretty well. Having an iPhone nano with basically the same functionality would only cannibalize sales.

I can imagine a smaller iPhone without WIFI, no app store, no safari, landscape-only keyboard and basic phone functionaliy. For, you know, people that need a cell phone and not a big expensive high tech toy. Most non-geek people over 40 are kinda scared of complicated phones with many features. Here's a demographic (an ever growing one actually) Apple has problems selling the iPhone to. So basic features is the way to go. Make a pre-paid version and you can get the kids too because parents can control how much they spend on calls and such.
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They could do a basic iPhone, but only if it doesn't have a touch screen. Apple has stated that they are against physical navigation keys (like a D-Pad, physical keyboard) when they announced the iPhone at Macworld '07.

I could see the lack of an App Store but WiFi is a must. The iPhone Nano will still be an iPod, so WiFi would be needed for mobile music download because they can't use a cellular network. There will definitely be a Safari, though it will probably be a watered down version of what you see on the iPhone 3G. Name a touchscreen phone without a web browser.

And I'm going to paraphrase from a post about the iPhone Nano cannibalizing iPhone 3G and iPod Touch sales. First, you don't need to worry about it affecting the iPod Touch sale. The iPhone has done little to the iPod sales so far so nothing to worry about there. And here's where I use something from another poster: Say you sell 10 Mac Pros and then introduce an iMac. You then sell 10 iMacs but only 3 Mac Pros, but in the end you've sold 13 computers, 3 more than you had originally sold.

And an iPhone Nano won't be to compete with the iPhone 3G, it will simply expand the iPhone line-up to target more demographics.

And who says that the iPhone Nano can't be a smartphone? I see them going with that. Look at the HTC Touch Diamond and the HTC Touch HD. Both are smart phones but are different sizes and appeal to different demographics and aren't made to compete with each other, but to expand HTC sales. Also, Apple is pretty happy with how it's doing in the smartphone market and an iPhone Nano will help improve their market share.

I think that the iPhone Nano will simply be a smaller version of the iPhone 3G with a few less features. I think it will still be in the smartphone category but will be targeted more towards smartphone beginners and people wanting a smaller iPhone (many complain about the iPhone 3G's tall and wide form factor). The iPhone Nano will add more features to appeal to that demographic and then those features will be added to the iPhone 3G and it's later models. The iPhone 3G will still be Apple's favorite and the iPhone Nano will just help bring people over to the 3G.
 
Anyone here work for Wal-Mart?

Have you been trained on the new nano coming out next week? Or are you still learning the 3G you just got last Sunday...?

:D [sarcasm]
 
Prof. said:
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minus the Wi-Fi icon of course.
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There you go. I'd swap around the icons but you can do that yourself anyway (wiggle, wiggle). I'd have phone, calendar and SMS in the dock, those things i need immediate access to. Double-tap to get to the iPod works nicely too.

I think we have a winner here. I bet the real deal will be very close to that. It might even have WIFI, but only so you can download songs directly to it.
 
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