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Vaja Also Hints at iPhone Nano?

I smell the iPhone Nano...and I also smell Ballmer and his ZunePhone!

Since cases are obviously already being designed (maybe even manufactured), I bet the iPhone Nano will come out shortly after MacWorld. I know it doesn't make sense for a product to come out right after Christmas, but I bet it will happen.

Games for the iPod Touch and current iPhone will probably be able to run on the iPhone Nano. If the screen size was the same shape but just smaller, I bet the same apps would be able to run. I also think that the iPhone Nano will take on a similar shape to the iPod Nano, but just without the click wheel. The screen sizes are the same shape, so it makes sense to happen.
 
IndyJonez said:
That's true.

And if it doesn't have the same capabilities of the current iphone then it would cater to a whole other crowd as well, agree?
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It ABSOLUTELY won't have all of the capabilities of the current iphone. Otherwise, it would cannibalize the sales of the existing iphone. No chance that Apple does anything stupid like that.
 
Why?! The iPhone is already small enough in the first place, how are they going to decrease the size and still let the keyboard be enough to type on? I really hope they don't make a shorter, fatter version of the regular iPhone!
 
skythefly13 said:
Why?! The iPhone is already small enough in the first place, how are they going to decrease the size and still let the keyboard be enough to type on? I really hope they don't make a shorter, fatter version of the regular iPhone!
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It probably won't have a full-sized keyboard. I bet it will just have the number keys like on a regular phone but on a touch screen.
 
For all the people complaining about the keyboard being too small, have you ever used other touch screen phones?

Most of them require you to turn the device in landscape in order to type, yet they still have Full QWERTY keyboards.
 
mr.stinki said:
For all the people complaining about the keyboard being too small, have you ever used other touch screen phones?

Most of them require you to turn the device in landscape in order to type, yet they still have Full QWERTY keyboards.
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You just have to look at the new Nokia smart phone with physical qwerty keys and you'll get the idea of small. In fact the virtual qwerty keys on the iPhone are slightly bigger. As for small I think if an iPhone nano is on the cards then it will likely be aimed at the discerning consumer who like well designed products in smaller form factor. My page 2 remark was not intended to be sexist in anyway. My wife is keen on the idea of their being an iPhone nano and she is certainly keen on getting one too. She tells me my iPhone 3G is too big. She's very complimentary that way. Hehe.
 
alexbates said:
I know it doesn't make sense for a product to come out right after Christmas, but I bet it will happen.
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Remember, not everyone celebrates christmas. And disappointed people all over the world who do celebrate it and didn't receive their brand new shinny 3G will have something to look forward to.
 
rish said:
My wife is keen on the idea of their being an iPhone nano and she is certainly keen on getting one too. She tells me my iPhone 3G is too big.
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Yes I still think this is key. The iphone is svelte and all that but it's still too big and masculine for most females. The thick and fast morphing of the 5 generations of nano (if you include the mini, which I am because of size category and cuteness factor) point to a fashion conscious image. Apple is constantly refining the look to penetrate this market further, recently exploring further into the cuteness factor (multicoloured and even thinner).

Getting back on topic, to make an iPhone compatible phone smaller, it would have to not only come with a higher dpi screen, but also considerably altered software to force landscape typing, and I don't think this would be compatible with many apps that only support the portrait keyboard, although that is only a guess.

Making it a non-smart phone (no appstore) solves this problem. But this leads to a different problem from a marketing perspective. I'm not talking about cannibalization of iPhone sales. I don't think this is a problem because the differentiation in both price (dataplan) and features (app store etc) is huge. The problem is dilution of the established iPhone brand position. Simply put, a non-smart iPhone is not an iPhone.
 
Sounds good.

If I had to guess, it wouldn't be smaller, it'd only have less memory and be thinner.
 
alphaod said:
Sounds good.

If I had to guess, it wouldn't be smaller, it'd only have less memory and be thinner.
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Then it really wouldn't deserve the name "Nano". If Apple wanted to release the same product in a thinner sculpture or smaller store capacity, they'd just do that with the existing iPhone.

I think the iPhone nano will be an iPhone - 1" on the screen - the GPS - 3G - a bit of the weight - a bit of the storage capacity.
 
fobfob said:
Yes I still think this is key. The iphone is svelte and all that but it's still too big and masculine for most females.
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I downright agree with your statement. Consumer Buyer Behaviour is important in business. The iPhone appeals to men mainly (due to its size and its shape, and generally men don't mind that). On the other hands, females like smaller and thinner items - its 'slick' and its a symbol status for females.

In order for Apple to cater for different markets - they need to expand their product offerings.
 
Opie said:
I just find it hard to believe that if there is an iphone nano that Steve would let Phil give the keynote...
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I hear you, but I think this very well *could* be the reason the let Phil give the keyenote, see how he performs with a major announcement and generating excitement, etc
 
Rumor has it the new iPhone Nano is going to feature a front-facing camera with facial recognition software to translate facial expressions to keystrokes. :p
 
Since it would be "IPhone Nano" does that mean possibly that Verizon could get it? Since it is a different product instead of just "IPhone" ??
 
dacreativeguy said:
It ABSOLUTELY won't have all of the capabilities of the current iphone. Otherwise, it would cannibalize the sales of the existing iphone. No chance that Apple does anything stupid like that.
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er - how about they make an iphone nano with (almost) all of the current features, and give the existing iphone new features (like extra hard-drive space, better camera etc).

Didn't think of that one didjya? ;)
 
andreab35 said:
if you think about it, with a shorter phone how the heck is it going to reach our mouth to pick up our voice? Say the iPhone Nano was an inch shorter, it doesn't even reach my mouth, and just covers my ear!
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so that's why bluetooth headsets don't pick up anyone's voice, too, right? I'm waiting for someone to come out with a 5" earpiece/mic boom. Yeah, that's the ticket.

:)
 
Here's a quick, 60 second mockup.

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skythefly13 said:
...how are they going to decrease the size and still let the keyboard be enough to type on? ...
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wouldn't the present size keyboard fit on the nano screen in landscape mode?

then a software update would allow the iPhone 3G keyboard to also work in landscape: it would be bigger and better than the present typing environment, for that phone's "power users", and the new nano typing experience would be the same as has been acceptable, at least, on the current phones.

can someone shoot holes in that theory?
 
Whatever it is it probably will have:

1. landscape only for keyboard purposes

2. wifi is a must because the Touch has it and it can't be inferior to the Touch

3. Apps is a must because Apple is making its money that way

What it doesn't really need is an accelerometer if its only in landscape, and it won't need 3G wireless, and perhaps the speakers. It will probably still have the camera and triangulation style mapping. And really, who cares if it might be thicker as long as the footprint is smaller. I mean, the Air is less portable than the 12" PowerBook.
 
rtdunham said:
how big a screen would be required to accommodate the current size keyboard, but in landscape mode? seems to me the nano-size would do that.

in other words, same size keyboard as the present iPhone; new software for the iPhone 3G would allow the keyboard to work in landscape mode, thus giving "power users" a better typing experience than presently exists, and nano users the same experience 3G users presently have. can someone shoot holes in that theory?
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Yeah, a landscape keyboard, even in nano size, will be bigger than a portrait keyboard on the current iPhone. I agree with you.
 
alexbates said:
...I bet it will just have the number keys like on a regular phone but on a touch screen.
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this idea, that the nano would not be a smart phone (so no safari/internet, etc) is also very plausible. contact input would be done on one's computer and sync'd to the phone, so lack of a keyboard wouldn't restrict phone functionality too much.
 
Yr Blues said:
Whatever it is it probably will have:

1. landscape only for keyboard purposes

2. wifi is a must because the Touch has it and it can't be inferior to the Touch

3. Apps is a must because Apple is making its money that way

What it doesn't really need is an accelerometer if its only in landscape, and it won't need 3G wireless, and perhaps the speakers.
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1. Won't have a keyboard if it must be used only in landscape

2. Possibly will have Wifi but what is this about being inferior to the touch? They wouldn't be comparable IMO.

3. No apps. The Touch and the iPhone already do apps, so if that is a feature you want you already have sufficient options.

Why wouldn't it have an accelerometer? The iPod Nano's have them. It would definitely have 3G as that is also used for voice, not data. IT WON'T NEED SPEAKERS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Seeing as it would be a phone it would probably need to ring...
 
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