Valve Demonstrates New Handheld Gaming Controller, Will Be Compatible With Steam for Mac

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Valve has released a video demonstrating its Steam Controller, a handheld gaming controller that will eventually be compatible with many Steam games, including popular titles like Portal, Counterstrike and Team Fortress.

The Steam Controller is designed to work with all the games on Steam: past, present, and future. Even the older titles in the catalog and the ones which were not built with controller support. (We've fooled those older games into thinking they're being played with a keyboard and mouse, but we've designed a gamepad that's nothing like either one of those devices.) We think you'll agree that we're onto something with the Steam Controller
The Steam Controller includes a touch screen in the center of the device with a pair of trackpads around the outside using "super-precise" haptic feedback and "dual linear resonant actuators" to deliver a range of force and vibration feedback sensations.

The Steam Controller is currently in beta and is designed to work primarily with the Steam Machine set-top box. It will also work with any PC version of Steam, including Steam for Mac.

Article Link: Valve Demonstrates New Handheld Gaming Controller, Will Be Compatible With Steam for Mac
 

Michael Goff

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So... this is like a combination of a keyboard/mouse and a controller that isn't actually as good as either.

Gotcha.
 

fiveainone

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It'll probably work for most games, but for competitive FPS, mouse is still going to win. This is essentially turning mobile phone control back onto a controller..
 

xxcysxx

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The idea of the gamepad was the feel of the physical joystick and it's resistive feedback. This hybrid will not likely do well.
 

HiRez

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I really thought this wasn't going to work very well but after watching the video, I'm intrigued. It's got possibilities and is capable of some things that just aren't practical on a standard dual stick controller.
 

SPNarwhal

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So... this is like a combination of a keyboard/mouse and a controller that isn't actually as good as either.

Gotcha.
Works better than a controller for keyboard and mouse games, so it does have a purpose. Plus, it being inferior to a standard controller is opinionated.
 

Renzatic

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It'll probably work for most games, but for competitive FPS, mouse is still going to win. This is essentially turning mobile phone control back onto a controller..
This has something touchscreens currently don't: haptics. Playing games on your iPhone is just you sliding your thumb across a perfectly flat piece of glass. There's no feedback whatsoever. This controller? Some way, some how, it manages to give you what you expect despite being perfectly flat. I bet something's clicky in it.

Don't believe me? Just listen to what the Team Meat guy has to say about it. If you can play Super Meat Boy on this thing without any issues, it's a good controller.
 

Michael Goff

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Works better than a controller for keyboard and mouse games, so it does have a purpose. Plus, it being inferior to a standard controller is opinionated.
I didn't say it doesn't have a purpose. I'm just pointing out that it's a combo that isn't quite as good as either of the combo. That is generally how things tend to be.

Also, looking at the demo? Yeah, anyone who takes that long to get a headshot in CS:S is not going to be doing so well in the game. And he even missed! This isn't even talking about games where you would want tactile feedback (which you won't be getting here).
 

bungiefan89

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Just write some better drivers for the PS3 six axis.
Then Valve would be relying on other manufacturers for their controller support... and that's not what they want.

More importantly, this new controller can trick a computer game into thinking it's just another keyboard and mouse setup. So you don't have to bother with drivers at all, just plug it in, map the buttons to keyboard and mouse functions, and a game made years before anybody even thought of a Sixaxis can now work on a controller! :)
 

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Then Valve would be relying on other manufacturers for their controller support... and that's not what they want.

More importantly, this new controller can trick a computer game into thinking it's just another keyboard and mouse setup. So you don't have to bother with drivers at all, just plug it in, map the buttons to keyboard and mouse functions, and a game made years before anybody even thought of a Sixaxis can now work on a controller! :)
The Six Axis already works pretty good out of the box in OSX, better than in windows. I actually haven't been able to use it in windows at all. I also have GamePad Companion that I can use to remap all the keys. That was only $5 so that's better than having to go out and buy another gamepad when I already have a perfectly somewhat already working one.
 

bungiefan89

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So... this is like a combination of a keyboard/mouse and a controller that isn't actually as good as either.

Gotcha.
Oh dear, we need to sit down for a talk... #SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet

This isn't by any means a replacement for the keyboard and mouse; it's an option for PC gamers who want to play on the couch in front of their big-screen TV instead of on their computer monitors. It's also for people like me who prefer to use a mouse and keyboard for some PC games (Deus Ex: Human Revolution, StarCraft 2, PlanetSide 2) and prefer to use a controller for other games (Crysis 2, Skyrim, Dishonored).

Valve wants to expand their Steam service into the livingroom instead of the seclusion of one's bedroom or laptop. And in order to do that, they have to have a controller that not only works with every PC game, (like the Steam controller does) but one that's made by them and not a third party like Microsoft or Sony or Logitech. So, they made their own controller with an incredibly bold and modular design.

But if you don't like it, you don't have to use it! ;)

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The Six Axis already works pretty good out of the box in OSX, better than in windows. I actually haven't been able to use it in windows at all. I also have GamePad Companion that I can use to remap all the keys. That was only $5 so that's better than having to go out and buy another gamepad when I already have a perfectly somewhat already working one.
Sixaxis works great in OSX? Hmmm... I should try that out.
And yeah, I hear you on your second point. I already have a perfectly functional wired Xbox 360 controller that works great when I use Windows 7 through bootcamp. So I don't have a real need for the Steam controller (which could very well cost upwards of $70 for all I know *insert joke about Steam sales here*) but I'm still excited about the fact that it's provided as an option for gamers to use. :)
 

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Oh dear, we need to sit down for a talk... #SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet

This isn't by any means a replacement for the keyboard and mouse; it's an option for PC gamers who want to play on the couch in front of their big-screen TV instead of on their computer monitors. It's also for people like me who prefer to use a mouse and keyboard for some PC games (Deus Ex: Human Revolution, StarCraft 2, PlanetSide 2) and prefer to use a controller for other games (Crysis 2, Skyrim, Dishonored).

Valve wants to expand their Steam service into the livingroom instead of the seclusion of one's bedroom or laptop. And in order to do that, they have to have a controller that not only works with every PC game, (like the Steam controller does) but one that's made by them and not a third party like Microsoft or Sony or Logitech. So, they made their own controller with an incredibly bold and modular design.

But if you don't like it, you don't have to use it! ;)

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Sixaxis works great in OSX? Hmmm... I should try that out.
And yeah, I hear you on your second point. I already have a perfectly functional wired Xbox 360 controller that works great when I use Windows 7 through bootcamp. So I don't have a real need for the Steam controller (which could very well cost upwards of $70 for all I know *insert joke about Steam sales here*) but I'm still excited about the fact that it's provided as an option for gamers to use. :)
I see why it was made, that doesn't mean that it is good. That doesn't mean that they're not trying to make a controller that can work like a mouse/keyboard as well. I didn't say that it was a replacement, I said it was a combination.

Which it is.

It's a controller that can be either a controller/mouse and keyboard. Seriously. I had been hoping that Valve would be able to do something great, but this just isn't it.

#notaValvefanboy
 

iLilana

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Dear Gabe

Send me one now pleeeze!!!! oh wait... steam hasn't worked on my mac for days. Stupid connection error... even though I'm connected just fine to the interwebs.
 

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Mid tower from Apple with a 660ti or better would be quite nice IMO. Controller is probably really nice once you get used to it.

/dreams
 
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This isn't by any means a replacement for the keyboard and mouse; it's an option for PC gamers who want to play on the couch in front of their big-screen TV instead of on their computer monitors.
Can't you just use an Xbox 360, PS3, GameCube, or... anything else controller? Unless you like the Steam controller, but I'm having doubts about the design. I don't know if trackpads can replace analog sticks, and the right analog control is where the buttons normally are on any modern controller. I don't even see any easy-to-press buttons on there.

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Said I. It's so glitchy! It's a web browser that they twisted into a game launcher with hack programming. I only used it because I was forced to for AoE II HD, and all it does is makes things more complicated. It'll be worth something if/when they let you use your PC like a regular game console when you want it to be one.

The interface also makes me feel like a spoiled brat 9-year-old who got a gaming PC for Thanksgiving. It's kinda like going to FilesTube and feeling like your IQ is dropping.
 
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Valve rules!
May i know what was the second game? New Civilization? It looks interesting.
 

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Is this the "safe bet" development they went with instead of Jeri and company's Cast AR headset?

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Valve rules!
May i know what was the second game? New Civilization? It looks interesting.
I'd like to see your opinion after working there for a while. Know a few that interviewed some ex-Valve guys. Many commented it was like a group of high school students with lots of money and a school principal passing out tardy slips.
 

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Seems pretty cool not sure if I will get one tho. I just think some games work better with keyboard and some better with controller. I dont feel like this is the best controller or keyboard out there but maybe some will?
 

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I'd like to see your opinion after working there for a while. Know a few that interviewed some ex-Valve guys. Many commented it was like a group of high school students with lots of money and a school principal passing out tardy slips.
I'm not sure if you are trying to make the work place seem good or bad? Sounds like a place I'd love to work at.