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Sony prohibits multiplayer with other consoles. There is no technical reason to do that and some games actually had cross-console multiplayer enabled "by accident" before it got blocked: it's entirely an anti-competitive measure.

Actually was not aware of that. But I don’t play multiplayer online either, I’m all about the campaign and exclusive titles. But for those who do play multiplayer, I can see the inconvenience.
 
I thought Valve said they had removed it? If they didn’t then no wonder Apple rejected it.
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I buy bus/train passes inside of an app, it doesn’t look like Apple is getting a cut of these. It uses stored credit cards rather than Apple Pay.

Uber and Lyft are also inside of an app.

I don’t see how this is any different.
I’ve seen some suggest Apple should be taking a cut of every Uber/Lyft transaction. I’m actually surprised they haven’t tried to. Eddy Cue once said Uber wouldn’t exist if not for Apple.
 
So is every other remote desktop app. Or a browser, when surfing paysites. In a way even Bootcamp. It's understandable Apple didn't allow third party appstore inside an app, but that would be IMO very stupid reason to deny it.

It's an understandable yet stupid reason?
 
Sony prohibits multiplayer with other consoles. There is no technical reason to do that and some games actually had cross-console multiplayer enabled "by accident" before it got blocked: it's entirely an anti-competitive measure.

For Sony, it's more of a (admittedly childish) retaliatory measure. When Microsoft was winning the console war last generation with XB360, Microsoft refused to allow cross-platform play with PS3. Now that Sony is the console leader, Microsoft is all for crossplay, but Sony is holding the same line Microsoft set.

It's to everyone's detriment, of course. But it's slightly more than JUST an anti-competitive measure.
 
You can also buy games from the Xbox app, weird how that got let through

Yes but the difference here is that you don’t play the games directly on your iOS or Apple TV.

You can have either one or the other: purchase or stream. If you want both, I’m guessing Valve would have to pay a percentage cut for every game sold to Apple through the Steam Link app.
 
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You should be able to buy from any web browser, not just from a PC or MAC.
The same issue happens with VUDU; if you want to purchase on an iOS device, just go to the website and purchase it.
No Computer required.
 
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Like it or not, Apple has been pretty clear about linking to non-apple-store purchases from inside an app. It's likely Valve knew better, but wanted to see if they could sneak it in.

No, they’ve been pretty clear you can do it so let no as Apple gets 30% of every sale made.

And this is a none story it was. reported Valve did not have any purchase link in the app.
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Sony prohibits multiplayer with other consoles. There is no technical reason to do that and some games actually had cross-console multiplayer enabled "by accident" before it got blocked: it's entirely an anti-competitive measure.

And one that’s hurting them, it’s been reported in the news about their anti competitive behaviour on Fortnite because it’s now on the Switch too, Sony are the ONLY ones not to allow cross platform accounts and multiplayer, if you first play Fortnite on a PlayStation, Sony will not allow you to then carry on with the same player account on any other platform, you have to start from scratch!
 
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It's to everyone's detriment, of course. But it's slightly more than JUST an anti-competitive measure.
Sony does not allow cross-multiplayer with the Switch either. Furthermore, Microsoft has actually taken some very player-friendly decisions this gen, like implementing Xbox backward compatibility and Play Anywhere.
 
Like it or not, Apple has been pretty clear about linking to non-apple-store purchases from inside an app. It's likely Valve knew better, but wanted to see if they could sneak it in.


Agreed but Apple should have never approved the version that they were about to release (and then yank it away).
 
Every time I’m playing on tvOS and want to buy a game from Steam, I’m going to open Teamviewer on my iPad or iPhone sitting right next to me and take a short video of this process. Then Im going to tweet it to apple and Phil Schiller to remind them of how dumb this whole thing is
 
I can’t wait for this. I own and love my Steam Link, but the hardware chokes on decodibg anything beyond roughly 35Mbit. This is basically why you can’t do 1080p 60fps without streaming to some more powerful device. My AppleTV really wants to be that device.
 
This whole thing is a little surreal. I remember the federal case made out of Microsoft pre-installing Internet Explorer and not offering their competitors free internet browsers on their OS. The idea of the biggest computer company in the world selling billions of computers inviting everyone to write apps for them, but then specifically not allowing their competitors sell their games on it... how is this not a giant antitrust goldmine? But then maybe at this stage we're just past all notions of that. Amazon can sell Kindles where the only way to buy books is through them, your ISP can buy movie studios and decide the only way you can watch movies is if you watch their content and advertising. Everyones local news can be owned by a single political extremist filling it with his ideological propaganda. And on and on it goes. If the people allow it, they will have it.

Careful, regardless of how much sense you make, this still won't be approved by Apple apologists.
 
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The same issue happens with VUDU; if you want to purchase on an iOS device, just go to the website and purchase it.
No Computer required.
Or the steam app that’s already on iOS and has been for years. It already does the store stuff and the chat stuff. (And the secure login stuff..) I buy games using it all the time, it even lets you start the install process on your remote machines, lol.

I actually think the fact that the steam app exists as it does might change how Apple deal with this Steamlink app.. I can’t really think of other cases where 2 apps would work together in this way. Between these 2 apps you bypass any control Apple are trying to implement.

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Can use PayPal, credit/debit from right within the app.
 
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I was under the impression that this is how the app behaved from the beginning, that’s what all the articles said.

Or at the very least the buy button was there but it said "continue on your PC to complete the purchase"
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Or the steam app that’s already on iOS and has been for years. It already does the store stuff and the chat stuff. (And the secure login stuff..) I buy games using it all the time, it even lets you start the install process on your remote machines, lol.

I actually think the fact that the steam app exists as it does might change how Apple deal with this Steamlink app.. I can’t really think of other cases where 2 apps would work together in this way. Between these 2 apps you bypass any control Apple are trying to implement.

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Can use PayPal, credit/debit from right within the app.
The Steam app hasn't been updated in years, perhaps it slipped by unnoticed before Apple started cracking down on this sort of thing. There's also something to be said for the fact that you can't consume the content on the device (or app) you're buying it from.
 
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Like it or not, Apple has been pretty clear about linking to non-apple-store purchases from inside an app. It's likely Valve knew better, but wanted to see if they could sneak it in.

Nope, this is a screen mirroring app. The only thing it does is show my PC screen on my iOS device. Just like VNC, Team Viewer and a ton of other iOS apps. I can buy anything I want (on the screen of my app on my PC) in those apps INCLUDING STEAM GAMES. The hard part I have is with Apple making arbitrary decisions after software has been developed to change the rules. Well, that and the fact that they are doing it to the detriment of their customers. They were ok with those other apps because the lag time was not good enough to actually play games.
 
It's an understandable yet stupid reason?

How about he understands their reasoning, yet finds it stupid?

How did we get to a point as a society where many people believe they are forbidden from understanding a viewpoint they disagree with?
 
From the screenshot, it looks like the desktop's display, so the same as buying within a web browser.
 
This whole thing is a little surreal. I remember the federal case made out of Microsoft pre-installing Internet Explorer and not offering their competitors free internet browsers on their OS. The idea of the biggest computer company in the world selling billions of computers inviting everyone to write apps for them, but then specifically not allowing their competitors sell their games on it... how is this not a giant antitrust goldmine? But then maybe at this stage we're just past all notions of that. Amazon can sell Kindles where the only way to buy books is through them, your ISP can buy movie studios and decide the only way you can watch movies is if you watch their content and advertising. Everyones local news can be owned by a single political extremist filling it with his ideological propaganda. And on and on it goes. If the people allow it, they will have it.


Couldn't agree more, And Telcos buying more Telcos - there can be only one! capitalism out of control.
 
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I have to believe that someone is eventually going to take Apple to court over this, as they are using their platform to be anti-competetive. I don't know who would win, but that would be the argument.
 
From the screenshot, it looks like the desktop's display, so the same as buying within a web browser.
It is pretty much the mobile site layout yeah, but a slightly outdated one. It could all easily be web based but it’s still pretty slick with Skype-ish text messaging. Authenticator code generator, and a pop out sidebar with .. stuff in it. Some of this is only in the app and not on the site. I can totally see Apple beginning to have a problem with this app when used in conjunction with the new one.

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I wonder if valve will pull it? Like ersan said it hasn’t been updated in years, but hmm.. Steam is just getting a full *nice* voice chat/lobby system a lot like discord, Valve will probably want to update the steam app to support that.
 
The 30% fee applies only to content and features that are delivered as an in-app purchase

The games bought through the Steam app aren't in-app content or features as they're tied to the machine that's running them (i.e. your PC) not the iOS device and not the Steam Link. The purchased software is two steps removed from the hardware it's running on, unless I'm missing something.
 
Because I've lost track of this issue.

This decision pertains to mobile software Apple creates and not their computer based software, right? Valve can have their software on Apple's app store for computers and do whatever purchase thing they want or do they have to ship out a product that's installed outside the app store?
 
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