I've always been puzzled by that, too. We could read an article about how every iPad purchase includes a free $1,000 gift card to the Apple Store and some troll would hit the negative link. Must be glass-half-empty sort of people. I don't get it.i just don't get the people voting negative, if you don't like games on mac, then don't install it but let us other TF2 fanatics enjoy these wonderful news ...
You hit the nail on the head.I've always been puzzled by that, too. We could read an article about how every iPad purchase includes a free $1,000 gift card to the Apple Store and some troll would hit the negative link. Must be glass-half-empty sort of people. I don't get it.
/yawn. People keep throwing arguments at this. You realize that I game at FULL RES/FULL SPECS on my Early 08 C2D Nvidia 8600 (OLD!) Macbook Pro on Source games? It's not like you need a Alienware to play TF2. It's not Crysis.This would have been bigger news 1-2 years ago during the Vista debacle. Windows 7 has given MS the momentum again in the gaming arena.
And just what Apple machine would one game on? For the price of a Mac Pro one can get a killer top of the line Windows gaming machine with much more advanced specifications and money left over for many games. And I'm not going to torture my all-in-one iMac with this. It might melt.
I have some interesting results to share with you. When I changed from Win to the Mac I installed Windows XP 32bit on the Snow Leopard Mac through BootCamp. I ran a couple of Benchmarks with the 32bit Version of Geekbench and OSX had significantly better results, I forgot the exact numbers but it was roughly 2900 Points under XP and the same Test in OSX was about 3500 Points. My typography class was my first contact with OSX and the school was equipped with very old 400 MHZ Macs and I was always amazed at how fast and reliable these computers ran with only 400 MHZ. So, long story short: Coded properly, native OSX Games can run significantly faster than their native Win versions.The point is to show the developers that there is a actual demand for these games on the Mac platform. That way they put more resources in to the Mac versions thereby eliminating the "3/4 framerate" you speak of. Mac games tend to be pokier than their Windows counterparts not because of OS X, but because they were afterthought ports.
I really don't get anyone here talking about this not being a great bit of news. It's like someone announced that their computer will be getting more functionality, and they're pissed.
Then what's the point in even having a Mac? If you're gaming a lot and always running Windows 7 or whatever under bootcamp...what's the point?The hardware options are still very lacking. Valve on OS X still leaves out every other Windows application you've ever encountered.
I personally refuse to play games under OS X.
And graphics is not everything. Gameplay > Graphics. Of course it's good if you can have both, but how many of new games have both? I can play Dune for days or Myth for that matter. Crysis?Then what's the point in even having a Mac? If you're gaming a lot and always running Windows 7 or whatever under bootcamp...what's the point?
I buy a Mac because I want to run OS X, NOT because of the hardware. Yes, I understand that you can run OS X on PC's with various hacks...but I don't want a hack. I want my OS to be up-to-date. I want the latest security and bug fixes. I don't want to always be 2 or 3 updates behind just because they haven't made a work-around hack yet for Hackintosh.
So I bought a Mac to run OS X...and I'll be damned if I'm going to spend this money and then turn around and run Windows when I want to just sit down to a casual game. Plus, I would hate the constant rebooting just do jump around. Screw that.
I personally refuse to run Windows when I have OS X.
That's good to know. I've heard of overheating problems on these forums with the new i7 and i5 iMacs. I haven't experienced it myself but then I haven't been gaming.That said... you wont "melt an iMac" by gaming... that's what I disagree with you on. Gaming isn't that bad on your machine. My Macbook Pro has been doing it nightly for 5+ hours just fine.
Take a look at how popular the HD 4800 and G92 based products are on Steam.You guys do all realise that "OMG uber spec" PC gaming is essentially dead, right? People play games on PS3s and 360s now, and of those that still play on PC very few have gaming rigs.
My 13" MBP will be able to handle all source games at close to max settings, because Valve realise that if they cater to the hardcore they'll be dead. Source games don't require the latest GPU to run. I played HL2 at max settings on my laptop five years ago, this MBP blows that thing out of the water.
http://source.valvesoftware.com/SourceBrochure.pdfThat means Valve ported over the source engine to Mac. Which basically means that Half life 2 has also been ported over. Even more exciting is that they are working on Episode 3, which should be released on both platforms when its ready.
Very very excited about this! The Mac has needed this for a very, very long time.
Yeah that's why I installed MYST on my iPhone and SimCity, both incredibly fun throwbacks with great gameplay and pretty much 2D graphics.And graphics is not everything. Gameplay > Graphics. Of course it's good if you can have both, but how many of new games have both? I can play Dune for days or Myth for that matter. Crysis?
Take a look at CoD:MW2 sales figure across platforms. From Infinity Ward:Take a look at how popular the HD 4800 and G92 based products are on Steam.
I believe that Modern Warfare 2 is a bad example given the negative reputation it has garnered in PC circles if not outright boycott.Take a look at CoD:MW2 sales figure across platforms. From Infinity Ward:
"Yes, PC is the smallest percentage in terms of how much sold on each platform but that hardly means anything other than the PC is just the smallest market"
By smallest percentage they mean a measly 3% of the first 1.7 million copies sold in the UK.
Now realise Steam represents a subset of that 3% PC market, saying that hardcore PC gaming is "popular" looks pretty darn silly. Valve and Blizzard, the two biggest PC devs, make engines specifically made to run on a range of machines for a reason.
Yes. I also like Myst.Yeah that's why I installed MYST on my iPhone and SimCity, both incredibly fun throwbacks with great gameplay and pretty much 2D graphics.
A creature capable of killing itself by drinking enormous amounts of Red Bull. Like in CSI.What do you define as a hardcore gamer?