Vancouver, The New Amsterdam?


DeSnousa

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That's a great idea. Here in Queensland it is also legal however it is not operated by the government. It is privately owned by nearly any one who wants to operate a brothel. (There are laws that prevent certain People). But in my essay I came to a conclusion that there was still high amounts of drugs, rape and etc in these buildings. Really terrible stuff. Hopefully seeing that it is operated by the city it will decrease or eliminate this kind of unwanted behaviour.

Its also good for the worker as the law now recognises their rights in the workplace. Eg, Health, harassment, compensation, annual leave and etc. Something that I believe is very important.

I would be very interested in how these new laws affect the industry.
 

Abstract

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I think its a good idea for the local government to own and run these brothels if it does become legalized. Having random homes in a neighbourhood as brothels is a bit unnerving for some. Its good to have designated, easy to locate places where this happens, and that's why government run brothels might be better than having any girl open up a brothel in her own unmarked home.
 

DeSnousa

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Abstract said:
I think its a good idea for the local government to own and run these brothels if it does become legalized. Having random homes in a neighbourhood as brothels is a bit unnerving for some. Its good to have designated, easy to locate places where this happens, and that's why government run brothels might be better than having any girl open up a brothel in her own unmarked home.
There would be a system like my above post, that prohibits brothels within residential areas and place them into business areas. Although it has been found that having awkward places results in lower demand as illegal prostitutes working on the streets in these residential areas find more work.
 

Leareth

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As a Vancouverite I appreciate they are finally doing something about the Sex trade and those working in it ...
80+ downtown eastside sex workers go missing... and nobody gave a damn... but the high class hookers went indoors and lost alot of business...
its about time people realized that the sex trade is not going away...so make it easier for them
However recruiting on campus for escort agencies is wrong in my books, i know a few of my classmates pay their tuition that way:confused:
 

Hoef

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It should really be, Canada, the New Holland ...

Amsterdam is not a sort of island within the Netherlands (though I admit, it really is different) ... What is allowed in Amsterdam is allowed in all of the Netherlands.
 

Abstract

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Hoef said:
It should really be, Canada, the New Holland ...

Amsterdam is not a sort of island within the Netherlands (though I admit, it really is different) ... What is allowed in Amsterdam is allowed in all of the Netherlands.
If you're going to be picky, Holland isn't the country's name, either. The Netherlands consists of many parts, and one of those parts is called Holland. Holland is a part of The Netherlands, and doesn't refer to the entire country, although people refer to it that way.
 

Duff-Man

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Duff-Man says...already this person's idea is causing a bit of an uproar, not surprisingly. What those people that object to the idea don't realize (or choose to ignore) is that Vancouver already has "licensed brothels" - in the name of "massage parlours." Anyone that thinks there is just a massage happening in those places is fooling themself. Sure , it is not 100% legal in this case but from what I understand (and I am not an expert by any means - never been in one!) the police pretty much leave them alone unless they get reports of underage girls, illegal immigrants (usually forced into the business) or drugs. They may as well just acknowledge it, tax it, and use the money to help the other people on the street....oh yeah!
 

shadowmoses

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DeSnousa said:
Here is my essay I did on the topic, it's a good read if your interested. I thought I did a good job on it anyway.
Very good essay and very interesting, thanks for sharing,

Shadow
 

Hoef

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Abstract said:
If you're going to be picky, Holland isn't the country's name, either. The Netherlands consists of many parts, and one of those parts is called Holland. Holland is a part of The Netherlands, and doesn't refer to the entire country, although people refer to it that way.

Ah right, I thought nobody had heard from Royal Kingdom of the Netherlands. I am from Holland by the way :D
 

Blue Velvet

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Hoef said:
Ah right, I thought nobody had heard from Royal Kingdom of the Netherlands. I am from Holland by the way :D

I lived there for a while.

Am half-Dutch and still remember een kleine beetje Nederlands... but remind me again, is the football team called 'Holland' or 'Nederland'? :D
 

Hoef

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Blue Velvet said:
I lived there for a while.

Am half-Dutch and still remember een kleine beetje Nederlands... but remind me again, is the football team called 'Holland' or 'Nederland'? :D
Nice! I'd say Holland .... remember the slogan "Hup Holland Hup!!". I am sure I offended folks in the Netherlands who aren't from Holland :rolleyes: Rember that episode on Seinfeld where George & Jerry discuss... "Holland, The Netherlands and who are the Dutch again"?

Blue Velvet, I am sure you like England much better (I probably would)?
 

solvs

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See, this is one of those things that I'm personally against, but at the same time still think should be legalized. I don't like the idea of sex for money, but I don't think I should have the right to tell people they can't. Plus, if it's regulated, it will better protect everyone involved. The tax benefits are just a bonus.

And considering how much dinner cost me on my last date, I'll bet a prostitute would have been cheaper :p (still against it though).
 

Lacero

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I don't like the idea of sex for money <snip>
Ha! It's payment for dinner. :p Of course, dating is perfectly normal, yet some boys (this refers to immature guys) expect too much at the end of one.
 

yoak

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I´m all for it. Anything that can improve the lives of citizens is a pluss in my book. These are people who often live and work in great fear, and should not have to.
 

hookahco

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I think its a great idea and the rest of the world should follow The Netherlands and other countries that have those types of prostitution laws. Here in the US it is very very illegal and police often have their own cops dress up like hookers to arrest would-be customers. HIV and other STDs are rampant in the US prostitution world and something needs to be done to stop it. If the government would make it legal and make laws requiring prostitutes to get tested regularly for diseases and allow prostitution to be like any other business, this country would be a better place. I think just the fact that it is so taboo to get a hooker is one more reason why people do it.
I say if people are going to do it whether it is legal or not, at least make it legal and regulate it a bit.

Just my $.02.
 

jadekitty24

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Most definitely a great idea. It's going to happen no matter what. Legalizing it will reduce the additional strain on the justice system. I personally don't believe in selling sex. Well, maybe it's not that I don't BELIEVE in it, I just can't put myself in that scenario, for I believe sex and love go hand in hand (yeah...I'm old-fashioned). But I accept that everyone isn't like me, and it isn't hurting me for working girls (or boys) to get money for what they do, nor does it hurt me that people solicite this type of activity. Legalizing will benefit all of us in the long run. Restrictions are put on too many things that I think should be legalized and this would be a step in the right direction.
 

szark

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I'm glad to hear that other cities/countries are opening up to the possibility of legalized, regulated prostitution.

hookahco said:
Here in the US it is very very illegal <snip>
...except for certain counties in Nevada, which allow privately owned, state-regulated brothels to operate in appropriately zoned areas.
 

solvs

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Lacero said:
Ha! It's payment for dinner. :p
At this point, I'd rather have the dinner. Even if it wasn't as good as it was when I took my female friend out, still better than sex with a stranger IMO. Especially if that's all I'm paying for. It was really good food though. ;)
 

redAPPLE

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hookahco said:
If the government would make it legal and make laws requiring prostitutes to get tested regularly for diseases and allow prostitution to be like any other business, this country would be a better place.
with dubya there? good luck.

i would say canada should do a really good study on this. the problem is this, let us say the city government is liberal now (i personally don't know). if they push through, they would lose the votes of the conservatives (and politicians loves votes more than their wives or husbands :D).

the real solution would be for people to be open minded. for people to take care of each other. which i may add, is getting less and less seen nowadays.
 

Flynnstone

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One problem with legalizing it in the US is ... litigation.
I think we are all concerned about worker safety. We also know about the risks associated with the sex trade.
So .. people going into the legalized sex trade and say get AIDS ...
because its legalized ... there will be lawsuits.
 

AoWolf

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Great to see that the city of my birth is a pillar of upright morals and goodness...

I think I am just gonna say I am from seattle now.