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Verizon and AT&T Expand LTE Coverage in Many Regions Ahead of iPhone 5 Launch

AT&T List in the Story is Way Off

Whoever put the "New AT&T LTE" list together found in the OP didn't bother to check their work. All you need to do is go to AT&T's Archived News Releases on their website to get the info directly from the source. Based on AT&T's own news releases, the ACCURATE "New AT&T LTE" list (at of the time of this reply) is as follows:

Wilmington, NC (Sept 20 Press Release)
Fayetteville, NC (Sept 20 Press Release)
Cincinnati, OH (Sept 20 Press Release)
Honolulu, HI (Sept 19 Press Release)
Seattle, WA (Sept 19 Press Release)
Pittsburgh, PA (Sept 19 Press Release)
Birmingham, AL (Sept 18 Press Release)
Memphis, TN (Sept 18 Press Release)
Sacramento, CA (Sept 17 Press Release)
Wilmington, DE (Sept 14 Press Release)
Philadelphia, PA (Sept 14 Press Release)
Rochester, NY (Sept 12 Press Release)
Albany, NY (Sept 12 Press Release)

My heart goes out to the AT&T folks in Anchorage, Detroit, and Portland for the false hopes of live LTE in their areas due to the inaccurate list in the OP.

Hopefully MR will update it quickly. But it looks like AT&T is rolling out new cities almost on a daily basis now, and that is an encouraging sign.
 
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Montana LTE

I'm amazed that Verizon is adding LTE to Helena and Billings, Montana. It's another one of those things that I figured that Montana wouldn't get LTE for another couple of years. When visited Montana a few years ago, one person remarked, "Verizon is king here", which made sense, since the only real options were Verizon and Alltel (this was a couple of months before AT&T officially took over Alltel in MT).

However, AT&T's lack of LTE (or even 3G) to the more rural areas is not surprising. I've had so many negative experiences with Verizon in the past, that I definitely avoid the company. However, if I lived in MT again, I would probably go over to Verizon due to their better support for the area.
 
kkamann said:
Whoever put the "New AT&T LTE" list together found in the OP didn't bother to check their work. All you need to do is go to AT&T's Archived News Releases on their website to get the info directly from the source. Based on AT&T's own news releases, the ACCURATE "New AT&T LTE" list (at of the time of this reply) is as follows:

My heart goes out to the AT&T folks in Anchorage, Detroit, and Portland for the false hopes of live LTE in their areas due to the inaccurate list in the OP.

Hopefully MR will update it quickly. But it looks like AT&T is rolling out new cities almost on a daily basis now, and that is an encouraging sign.
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Hi there!

According to their own news releases, AT&T launched in Portland on September 19.

And in Detroit on September 19.

And in Anchorage on September 6.
 
kkamann said:
Whoever put the "New AT&T LTE" list together found in the OP didn't bother to check their work. All you need to do is go to AT&T's Archived News Releases on their website to get the info directly from the source. Based on AT&T's own news releases, the ACCURATE "New AT&T LTE" list (at of the time of this reply) is as follows:

Wilmington, NC (Sept 20 Press Release)
Fayetteville, NC (Sept 20 Press Release)
Cincinnati, OH (Sept 20 Press Release)
Honolulu, HI (Sept 19 Press Release)
Seattle, WA (Sept 19 Press Release)
Pittsburgh, PA (Sept 19 Press Release)
Birmingham, AL (Sept 18 Press Release)
Memphis, TN (Sept 18 Press Release)
Sacramento, CA (Sept 17 Press Release)
Wilmington, DE (Sept 14 Press Release)
Philadelphia, PA (Sept 14 Press Release)
Rochester, NY (Sept 12 Press Release)
Albany, NY (Sept 12 Press Release)

My heart goes out to the AT&T folks in Anchorage, Detroit, and Portland for the false hopes of live LTE in their areas due to the inaccurate list in the OP.

Hopefully MR will update it quickly. But it looks like AT&T is rolling out new cities almost on a daily basis now, and that is an encouraging sign.
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Portland, OR (Sept 19 Press Release):

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=23373&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=35395
 
User3977 said:
Is this like the AT&T 4g lies. I have the 4s and wife has the 4. We both run a speed test and get same results but mine shows 4g hers shows 3g
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My wife and I do the same thing except my 4 on 3G is faster than her 4s on "4G".
 
STiNG Operation said:
Maybe you can help out with this one.:D:confused:

I'm so confused on what to do here. I live in Kalamazoo MI and am on AT&T. My contract is up on OCT. 11th and I was planning on switching to Verizon for their LTE coverage. But now I don't really know, any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Before deciding check AT&T on the web and see if you find any LTE info for your area. Then ask around for V users and see f you can find avg LTE speeds for them in your area. Compare them to AT&T 3G or fauxG and see what you think there. There are likely websites that probably have already compared this data for you.

I'm always partial to sticking with current stuff than changing. Change sucks LOL.
 
Glad i'm on Verizon. There is LTE all around me

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STiNG Operation said:
Man I'll tell you, I'm so confused on what to do here. I live in Kalamazoo MI and am on AT&T. My contract is up on OCT. 11th and I was planning on switching to Verizon for their LTE coverage. But now I don't really know, any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Here is what you do man. Switch. You get EDGE at work, f that lol. And you are in an LTE area so you should be good.
 
Verizon needs to step it up in Ventura.

I still don't have 4g in my area. :confused::eek: They should step it up. I don't feel like traveling 20 min just to get 4g. Coffee anyone? haha:apple::apple:
 
edenwaith said:
I'm amazed that Verizon is adding LTE to Helena and Billings, Montana. It's another one of those things that I figured that Montana wouldn't get LTE for another couple of years. When visited Montana a few years ago, one person remarked, "Verizon is king here", which made sense, since the only real options were Verizon and Alltel (this was a couple of months before AT&T officially took over Alltel in MT).

However, AT&T's lack of LTE (or even 3G) to the more rural areas is not surprising. I've had so many negative experiences with Verizon in the past, that I definitely avoid the company. However, if I lived in MT again, I would probably go over to Verizon due to their better support for the area.
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I live in Montana. According to their maps, Verizon has LTE in Kalispell, Whitefish, Columbia Falls, Polson (partial, never announced), Missoula, Lolo, Stevensville, Hamilton, Helena, Bozeman, Belgrade, and Billings (attempting to go north to south west to east there). Bizarrely missing are Bigfork (rich), Lakeside and West Glacier (touristy), Great Falls (military), and Butte (umm... there's gotta be a reason Butte matters).

I have AT&T and strongly recommend it. Why? AT&T has HSPA+ practically statewide, which is fast enough for any realistic use on today's heavily capped data plans - much faster than Verizon EVDO. Also, AT&T has far better COVERAGE. Knowing there are places NEAR you with LTE is totally useless when your phone says "no service" while an AT&T phone works in the same spot :)
 
Well, I had Cingular a LONG, LONG time ago because of some other feature Cingular offered with Apple...I can't even remember what it was! I think it had something to do with my vintage Motorola phone and it's ability to share contact info, ringtones or maybe music with my Mac. Whatever it was, I remember it required me to have Cingular in order to work, so I used Cingular. Does anyone remember what that feature was?

Anyway, when they announced the original iPhone in 2007, I was so excited that I had Cingular already, and my Palm Treo at the time was getting kind of old and heavy, and I was due for an upgrade anyway!!! So, I stuck with Cingular, which later became AT&T, and I've been upgrading and signing 2 year renewal contracts ever since!

So, here we are again. Time for iPhone 5, but since I live in the Detroit area which did NOT have 4G LTE coverage, I was seriously considering jumping ship to Verizon. But then this news comes out and Detroit has the coverage!!

So, since I've been happy with my unlimited data coverage, and I don't really want to lose it (certainly not for facetime over cellular service), I'm sticking with what I know. And that, my friends, is how AT&T manages to keep their customers. Suck us into contracts and make us too complacent and lazy to switch. :D
 
im not on the list of verizon expanded but i do live very close to lte and for the last 2 days my mifi has been connecting to lte but falling back to rev. a so hopeing they working on it
 
Mundty said:
Verizon almost seems like a sure bet, until you factor the monthly costs for a single user on their shared data plans. You realize not only are they forcing you to pay for features you don't need (unlimited voice/text), but they charge more money for less data. Let's not forget unlimited customers have to pay full retail to keep grandfathered plans.

You couldn't pay me to switch to Verizon, I don't care how good their coverage is, it's not worth worrying what kind of anti-consumer policies they'll enact next. I've learned one thing watching these news updates, Verizon is one of the most dishonest and greedy providers in the business.

When someone asks me where to go to for an iPhone, I tell me AT&T for better coverage and speed, and Sprint for better value and policies. Verizon doesn't even enter the conversation anymore.
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I've been crunching the numbers all day just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'm a current Verizon customer with two iPhone 4's on an unlimited data plan. With 250 texts per line each month and 700 shared minutes, plus Verizon's insurance, we currently pay about $155/month.

Cost Breakdown for New Shared Data Plan:

$165 (tax included) - 8 GB shared data plan (with employer discount) and no insurance
$875 (tax included) - Two 64 GB iPhone 5's (two-yr contract price)
$188 - 2-yr SquareTrade Warranty

Over 24 months, the grand total is $5,023, for an average monthly cost of $209.29.

Cost Breakdown for Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan:

$132 (tax included) - Current unlimited data plan and drop insurance
$1862 (tax included) - Two 64 GB iPhone 5's (full price)
$188 - 2-yr SquareTrade Warranty
-$200 - Minimum trade-in value for two 32 GB excellent condition iPhone 4's.

Over 24 months, the grand total is $5,018, for an average monthly cost of $209.08.

Conclusion:

It would be cheaper for me, by about 21 cents per month, to buy two 64 GB iPhone 5's at full price and keep my unlimited data than to upgrade at the subsidized two-year contract price.

Down Side?

700 shared minutes and no unlimited texting :rolleyes:

I know this will not apply to everyone, but it at least shows you how ridiculous the new shared data plans actually are (if you didn't know already), and I thought this might help other people decide on what to do about their current unlimited data plan. For now, we're going to keep ours.

One other thing, I realize that Verizon can at any time end unlimited data plans, even for those that are grandfathered in. As long as they don't do that within the next two years, we should be good.

:apple:
 
JoeHemi said:
Didn't know I needed data for a subjective term. But yes, many of my co-workers with AT&T at my job in Seattle switched to Verizon. I switched from Sprint to Verizon vs AT&T because AT&T didn't have a market here. I have friends that also switched. So based on that, yes I know many people that have switched from AT&T. Don't know anyone that switched to them. Maybe you have the data that says otherwise. :rolleyes:
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I do it's called reality and it supersedes what your "coworkers" did.
 
This is taken on AT&T in Buffalo at 8:50am
http://www.speedtest.net/iphone/328451647.png

****ing awesome att!! :D
 
In AT&Ts launch markets, they are upgrading only few towers in the launch markets and creating "macrocells" by upping their output power. So the tower you normally get service from may not have LTE at all. You'll see your LTEservice at 2 bars, but when you make a call and it switched to the 3Gnetwork for call your signal will automatically go up since its connecting to the closer tower. AT&T sucks
 
jtrenda33 said:
I've been crunching the numbers all day just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'm a current Verizon customer with two iPhone 4's on an unlimited data plan. With 250 texts per line each month and 700 shared minutes, plus Verizon's insurance, we currently pay about $155/month.

Cost Breakdown for New Shared Data Plan:

$165 (tax included) - 8 GB shared data plan (with employer discount) and no insurance
$875 (tax included) - Two 64 GB iPhone 5's (two-yr contract price)
$188 - 2-yr SquareTrade Warranty

Over 24 months, the grand total is $5,023, for an average monthly cost of $209.29.

Cost Breakdown for Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan:

$132 (tax included) - Current unlimited data plan and drop insurance
$1862 (tax included) - Two 64 GB iPhone 5's (full price)
$188 - 2-yr SquareTrade Warranty
-$200 - Minimum trade-in value for two 32 GB excellent condition iPhone 4's.

Over 24 months, the grand total is $5,018, for an average monthly cost of $209.08.

Conclusion:

It would be cheaper for me, by about 21 cents per month, to buy two 64 GB iPhone 5's at full price and keep my unlimited data than to upgrade at the subsidized two-year contract price.

Down Side?

700 shared minutes and no unlimited texting :rolleyes:

I know this will not apply to everyone, but it at least shows you how ridiculous the new shared data plans actually are (if you didn't know already), and I thought this might help other people decide on what to do about their current unlimited data plan. For now, we're going to keep ours.

One other thing, I realize that Verizon can at any time end unlimited data plans, even for those that are grandfathered in. As long as they don't do that within the next two years, we should be good.

:apple:
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You bring up a very good point about the subsidized pricing. All of the carriers not just Verizon, are very good at claiming that they subsidize the device for you, but when it comes bringing your own contract free phone you'll notice your monthly rates don't drop at all... not by a dime.

If they force you out of your unlimited data plan within the next two years, I believe you have every right to tell them you want out of your contract immediately without penalty. They can't break the contract anymore than you can, so the same rules apply.

At that point, you'd just have to sell your iPhone 5 and use that money to buy a Sprint or other carrier iPhone. As an AT&T customer, Sprint looks more and more appealing every time I look at their policies and prices. AT&T hasn't done enough to make me cancel service just yet, but if they try to *$%& with me I'm gone... it's really that simple.
 
With this expansion, Verizon has 390 markets live with LTE. That's close to 80% of their nationwide footprint. Their goal for this year is 400 markets. They're sooo gonna exceed it.
AT&T has about 70 markets now.
 
swordfish5736 said:
they did. Here's the current list for the rest of the year:

The additional markets:

Albany, N.Y.
Albuquerque, N.M.
Allentown, Pa.
Birmingham, Ala.
Boise, Idaho
Charleston, S.C.
Cincinnati, Ohio
Columbia, S.C.
Columbus, Ohio
Denver-Boulder, Colo.
Detroit, Mich.
El Paso, Texas
Fayetteville, N.C.
Ft. Myers, Fla.
Gary, Ind.
Grand Rapids, Mich.
Green Bay, Wis.
Harrisburg, Pa.
Hartford, Conn.
Hawaii
Knoxville, Tenn.
Lancaster, Pa.
Little Rock, Ark.
Louisville, Ky.
Memphis, Tenn.
Milwaukee, Wis.
Nashua, N.H.
New Haven, Conn.
Philadelphia, Pa.
Pittsburgh, Pa.
Portland, Ore.
Providence, R.I.
Reading, Pa.
Rochester, N.Y.
Sacramento, Calif.
Salinas-Seaside-Monterey, Calif.
Seattle, Wash.
Springfield, Mass.
Toledo, Ohio
Tucson, Ariz.
Tulsa, Okla.
Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
Wilmington, Del.
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Is this list for AT&T LTE or Verizon LTE?
 
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