I left Verizon for the iPhone goodness...Verizon has a great network and good customer service...but their phones suck something fierce...
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Verizon asks customers who left --> Would an iPhone have kept you around?
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The obvious answer is... both.
CDMA 3G is widespread. Over 450 million potential 3G customers.
Don't forget, Apple wanted to go CDMA with Verizon. (Since all of Verizon's smartphones have used EVDO for years, the first iPhone would've been 3G to start with if it had been a Verizon model. No EDGE junk.)
As for worldwide sales, the number of potential GSM users has not mattered much. GSM might be in more third world countries, but their population might not be rich enough or have computers or have 3G available.
About half the iPhone sales are in the USA. About eight million, say. If Apple released a CDMA version, don't you think that they could double their US sales? I do. And then CDMA models would account for 1/3 of worldwide sales. That's pretty big.
I left Verizon for the iPhone, and ONLY for that reason. So did my wife. I bet a lot of people did. I agonized over the decision for a year. That year also gave AT&T time to improve their network in my area (Sacramento, CA) enough that the switch wasn't as painful. But make no mistake - Verizon rules CA when it comes to coverage. AT&T is definitely catching up though.
I still miss VZW coverage when traveling in fringe areas, but I do like having a phone that works around the world.
I still miss VZW coverage when traveling in fringe areas, but I do like having a phone that works around the world.
I left Verizon the day my 2 year contract was up (August 28th 2008) and ran to an AT&T store for the iPhone! I cant tell you how long I was counting down the days.
Same here i loved Verizon and all my friends and family are still on it... but i still made the switch. As with the choice not to carry the iphone, Verizon is always lagging on "new" phones. I had enough of waiting.
I can say I was pretty surprised with the new AT&T. I had both AT&T and Cingular prior to the merge but the coverage was not nearly as good as Verizons. I am pretty satisfied with my decision, i also got my wife to jump the V ship too
I can say I was pretty surprised with the new AT&T. I had both AT&T and Cingular prior to the merge but the coverage was not nearly as good as Verizons. I am pretty satisfied with my decision, i also got my wife to jump the V ship too
i agree 3g speeds in NYC SUCK!!!!! and i get tons of dropped calls. AT&T one of your biggest markets needs more towers!!!
I know, if only Verizon would be able to catch up with their phones compared to other providers.
Well at least they added that option in their survey
Apple doesn't need Verizon's business. They are fixing to sell China 10 times the iphones than Verizon has customers. The whole world is GSM. Verizon is CDMA. This is not rocket science.
The main reason for exclusivity is so that Apple can bargain for a larger payment from some carriers.
That seems to be a shortsighted plan to skim off the top. Instead of gaining as many long term customers as possible at the beginning by selling to everyone, it has caused other carriers and manufacturers to create competition... and astonishingly given them the time to do so... and thus allow market share to slip away.
Skimming might work with computers and MP3 players, but people are locked into phones for years at a time, and it's much more difficult to get those customers back again.
I currently have Alltel. My contract, coincidentally enough, ends in June. Verizon/Alltel has a better network where I live than anyone else. But when the new phone is announced, it doesn't matter who has it, I will be getting it. If it's still ATT only, see you later Alltel/Verizon, and I'll bring my wife with me when her contract expires a year later. However, if Verizon can get the iPhone by then, I'll stick with them.
The ball is in their court, and I think it's that way with a good number of customers.
The ball is in their court, and I think it's that way with a good number of customers.
I would probably still be on Verizon if it weren't for the iPhone. I wanted a phone that did more than just make calls and didn't have that horrible Verizon GUI. I tried the blackberry storm but it just wasn't as good.
I've been quite happy with AT&T' s service so far though, no noticeable difference between verizon's in my area.
I've been quite happy with AT&T' s service so far though, no noticeable difference between verizon's in my area.
No, but your math is way off.
Apple is in talks with China Unicom. CU has 168 million subscribers. Verizon and Sprint together have 134 million customers, with much more disposable income.
You're thinking of the far larger China Mobile, which uses a TD-SCDMA 3G network that's incompatible with the current iPhone unless people want to stay 2G. However, China Mobile and Apple don't see eye to eye over the App Store, so no deal there.
i for one was hoping they would. as much as i think verizon customer service sucks. unfort. mosr my family and friends are on verizon....now im going thru minutes like water.
but i do have to say it is well worth it....i LOVE my IPhone!
but i do have to say it is well worth it....i LOVE my IPhone!
Thanks for linking that. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that CDMA is used only in the US, and that's simply not true. I'm using CDMA now, despite not being in the US
Thanks for linking that. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that CDMA is used only in the US, and that's simply not true. I'm using CDMA now, despite not being in the US
Here's a CDMA world map, where you can dig down and see countries and 3G coverage.
baha good personal experience story. and like many other VZW customers, the iPhone should definitely be available for us, it's too bad Apple has a contract with AT&T because the Verizon company would be so much better off if they said yes to Apple.
A little premature... He said ONLY 50-100 million CDMA subscribers? Lets say 5 million pick up an iPhone. Multiply that by around 100 a month, its a considerable amount of money. You don't think that Apple, a for profit buisness, wants a slice of that pie? Im willing to bet they can develop the CDMA iPhone for a small amount compared to the money they would bring in.
If its about dominating the entire market, CDMA shouldn't be ignored. I have been on both CDMA and GSM networks, bottom line is that most people don't care what kind of network it is as long as they can make reliable calls. Verizon uses CDMA, and their customer service and network were the best ive used. There are also a bunch of us who have reasons (family etc) for staying with our CDMA networks, and would love an iPhone where we are at.
Some people act like GSM fanboys, as if they would be personally offended if Apple made a CDMA iPhone.
I had CDMA in the past and the signal wasn't as good as what I have now GSM plus no roll over. Now thats in my area and that's the key, the area your in. Having said that I wish every carrier sold the iphone. It would only bring down the cost to the consumers. That's why I say the iphone will stay with at&t because they (apple & at&t) can control the price which is not good for the consumer. Apple gets to keep it's premium price for the iphone and at&t can keep it's monthly rates high. As long as there is a huge demand for the iphone it will stay with one carrier. You know, when there's more than one retailer selling the same product you can haggle over the price.