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Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile Won't Support eSIM Until Later This Year
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^ This
I love how everyone is blaming it on Apple. Where I live (Qatar) both Ooredoo and Vodafone kickstarted insane offers to those switching to e-SIM with each giving insane amount of data to make everyone get on the new tech while US carrier work on sucking in more cash!
T-Mobile US should have been ready with eSIM since they tested out in other countries like Czech and Germany and they was successful in implementing the eSIM.
https://www.t-press.cz/en/press-rel...e-succeeded-in-activating-the-first-esim.html
https://www.t-press.cz/en/press-rel...e-succeeded-in-activating-the-first-esim.html
Just wish Apple would setup an MVNO like Google did. Relegate these carriers to utility providers.
It seems like AT&T’s problem is simple, just a voicemail issue which could have easily been overlooked when getting everything set up, Verizon though is a total failure, they had months to figure out their network didn’t work with it and do testing to make sure everything would be in working order.
AT&T told me that the fix will occur before the end of November. We will see.
Apple today released iOS 12.1 with support for the digital eSIM that will allow for dual-SIM functionality on the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, but eSIM support isn't going to be immediately available from U.S. carriers.
AT&T, for example, is telling customers that eSIM activations are being delayed until later in the year due to technical issues in part related to Visual Voicemail.
According to one AT&T store manager who spoke to MacRumors, retail outlets have been told that AT&T is not supporting dual-SIM or eSIM at the current time, with stores advised not to sell eSIM cards to customers.
Verizon and T-Mobile will also not be supporting the eSIM at the current time, according to company spokespeople who talked to PCMag. T-Mobile said that eSIM support is in the works and will be available "when its software is ready" with no timeline provided. Verizon, meanwhile, said that eSIMs will be available after some kinks are worked out.
It's also worth noting that Verizon customers should not activate eSIMs from other companies at this time because of performance issues. As outlined by PCMag, when a physical Verizon SIM is relegated into a "secondary" position by an eSIM from another company, the Verizon connection gets downgraded to the 2G CDMA network.
Verizon says it is working with Apple to resolve this issue to allow its customers to use eSIM without a performance hit.
The fourth major carrier in the United States, Sprint, is not on Apple's list of carriers that are going to be implementing eSIM support, but Sprint has said it will add support at some point.
The eSIM, or digital SIM, is a non-physical SIM card slot that pairs with the physical SIM card in the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR to enable dual-SIM dual-standby, a feature that lets iPhone users have two phone numbers available at once.
With dual-SIM support, iPhone users are supposed to be able to swap between the two phone numbers readily, alleviating the need for a second phone or SIM swapping for work and travel.
While eSIM support will not be available from the major carriers in the United States at this time, it is available in other countries around the world. Apple has a list of all the carriers supporting eSIM functionality on its website.
On Apple's site, eSIM support for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile says "coming later this year," suggesting the three carriers are aiming to launch the feature before the end of 2018.
Article Link: Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile Won't Support eSIM Until Later This Year
I've had no issues at all with VVM. Maybe it's because both my eSIM (personal line) and physical SIM (work) are both AT&T, but something just seems disingenuous about this all. AT&T sends all the eSIMs to the stores and then suddenly there are "issues" being discovered?
Aside from failing to train employees, since almost all of the reports here seem to say most reps at the carriers don't even know what an eSIM even is, I just think they are trying to find a way to monetize this. But it's not as if the carriers aren't getting paid for both plans, so I dunno....
I’m curious if the carrier updates that came with 12.1.1 today fixes the esim issues.
Hoping this works with prepaid plans. Will be great to open a send line just for a month when I go on vacation and native T-Mobile coverage isn't really there despite the coverage map saying so. Unless band 71 is rolled out before then.
I went to the T-Mobile office during lunch. They are always helpful there. The guy "switched" my number to an eSIM, then my phone came up with a QR code reader. But he does not have any QR code cards or anything on the screen to read.
He did more research in the T-mobile site and he saw the official statement of eSIM's not being available yet. So he had to transfer my number to another physical SIM.
This and the AW 4 ECG. It's almost like apple is turning into a kickstarter project, or a Tesla car. Promised features that can be factors in a purchase, but no one knows when the features will be released.
He did more research in the T-mobile site and he saw the official statement of eSIM's not being available yet. So he had to transfer my number to another physical SIM.
This and the AW 4 ECG. It's almost like apple is turning into a kickstarter project, or a Tesla car. Promised features that can be factors in a purchase, but no one knows when the features will be released.
[doublepost=1541037078][/doublepost]Where do you get your info? Should prob check your sources? I was able to walk into an AT&T store today and get a second line and a blue eSIM card without an issue on prepaid. Works like a charm including the visual voicemail.
Apple today released iOS 12.1 with support for the digital eSIM that will allow for dual-SIM functionality on the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, but eSIM support isn't going to be immediately available from U.S. carriers.
AT&T, for example, is telling customers that eSIM activations are being delayed until later in the year due to technical issues in part related to Visual Voicemail.
According to one AT&T store manager who spoke to MacRumors, retail outlets have been told that AT&T is not supporting dual-SIM or eSIM at the current time, with stores advised not to sell eSIM cards to customers.
Verizon and T-Mobile will also not be supporting the eSIM at the current time, according to company spokespeople who talked to PCMag. T-Mobile said that eSIM support is in the works and will be available "when its software is ready" with no timeline provided. Verizon, meanwhile, said that eSIMs will be available after some kinks are worked out.
It's also worth noting that Verizon customers should not activate eSIMs from other companies at this time because of performance issues. As outlined by PCMag, when a physical Verizon SIM is relegated into a "secondary" position by an eSIM from another company, the Verizon connection gets downgraded to the 2G CDMA network.
Verizon says it is working with Apple to resolve this issue to allow its customers to use eSIM without a performance hit.
The fourth major carrier in the United States, Sprint, is not on Apple's list of carriers that are going to be implementing eSIM support, but Sprint has said it will add support at some point.
The eSIM, or digital SIM, is a non-physical SIM card slot that pairs with the physical SIM card in the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR to enable dual-SIM dual-standby, a feature that lets iPhone users have two phone numbers available at once.
With dual-SIM support, iPhone users are supposed to be able to swap between the two phone numbers readily, alleviating the need for a second phone or SIM swapping for work and travel.
While eSIM support will not be available from the major carriers in the United States at this time, it is available in other countries around the world. Apple has a list of all the carriers supporting eSIM functionality on its website.
On Apple's site, eSIM support for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile says "coming later this year," suggesting the three carriers are aiming to launch the feature before the end of 2018.
Article Link: Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile Won't Support eSIM Until Later This Year
Apple today released iOS 12.1 with support for the digital eSIM that will allow for dual-SIM functionality on the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, but eSIM support isn't going to be immediately available from U.S. carriers.
AT&T, for example, is telling customers that eSIM activations are being delayed until later in the year due to technical issues in part related to Visual Voicemail.
According to one AT&T store manager who spoke to MacRumors, retail outlets have been told that AT&T is not supporting dual-SIM or eSIM at the current time, with stores advised not to sell eSIM cards to customers.
Verizon and T-Mobile will also not be supporting the eSIM at the current time, according to company spokespeople who talked to PCMag. T-Mobile said that eSIM support is in the works and will be available "when its software is ready" with no timeline provided. Verizon, meanwhile, said that eSIMs will be available after some kinks are worked out.
It's also worth noting that Verizon customers should not activate eSIMs from other companies at this time because of performance issues. As outlined by PCMag, when a physical Verizon SIM is relegated into a "secondary" position by an eSIM from another company, the Verizon connection gets downgraded to the 2G CDMA network.
Verizon says it is working with Apple to resolve this issue to allow its customers to use eSIM without a performance hit.
The fourth major carrier in the United States, Sprint, is not on Apple's list of carriers that are going to be implementing eSIM support, but Sprint has said it will add support at some point.
The eSIM, or digital SIM, is a non-physical SIM card slot that pairs with the physical SIM card in the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR to enable dual-SIM dual-standby, a feature that lets iPhone users have two phone numbers available at once.
With dual-SIM support, iPhone users are supposed to be able to swap between the two phone numbers readily, alleviating the need for a second phone or SIM swapping for work and travel.
While eSIM support will not be available from the major carriers in the United States at this time, it is available in other countries around the world. Apple has a list of all the carriers supporting eSIM functionality on its website.
On Apple's site, eSIM support for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile says "coming later this year," suggesting the three carriers are aiming to launch the feature before the end of 2018.
Article Link: Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile Won't Support eSIM Until Later This Year
What difference does it make since at present no U.S. carrier supports eSIM?
In Sprint’s defense, they have more important things to spend their money on. Such as making sure that phones with one SIM actually work on their network
[doublepost=1541152833][/doublepost]Try the MyTruphone App. Probably not for everyone but if you ever travel that seems to be the ideal solution and while not the cheapest it works today and they don't call you to a shop
Apple today released iOS 12.1 with support for the digital eSIM that will allow for dual-SIM functionality on the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, but eSIM support isn't going to be immediately available from U.S. carriers.
AT&T, for example, is telling customers that eSIM activations are being delayed until later in the year due to technical issues in part related to Visual Voicemail.
According to one AT&T store manager who spoke to MacRumors, retail outlets have been told that AT&T is not supporting dual-SIM or eSIM at the current time, with stores advised not to sell eSIM cards to customers.
Verizon and T-Mobile will also not be supporting the eSIM at the current time, according to company spokespeople who talked to PCMag. T-Mobile said that eSIM support is in the works and will be available "when its software is ready" with no timeline provided. Verizon, meanwhile, said that eSIMs will be available after some kinks are worked out.
It's also worth noting that Verizon customers should not activate eSIMs from other companies at this time because of performance issues. As outlined by PCMag, when a physical Verizon SIM is relegated into a "secondary" position by an eSIM from another company, the Verizon connection gets downgraded to the 2G CDMA network.
Verizon says it is working with Apple to resolve this issue to allow its customers to use eSIM without a performance hit.
The fourth major carrier in the United States, Sprint, is not on Apple's list of carriers that are going to be implementing eSIM support, but Sprint has said it will add support at some point.
The eSIM, or digital SIM, is a non-physical SIM card slot that pairs with the physical SIM card in the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR to enable dual-SIM dual-standby, a feature that lets iPhone users have two phone numbers available at once.
With dual-SIM support, iPhone users are supposed to be able to swap between the two phone numbers readily, alleviating the need for a second phone or SIM swapping for work and travel.
While eSIM support will not be available from the major carriers in the United States at this time, it is available in other countries around the world. Apple has a list of all the carriers supporting eSIM functionality on its website.
On Apple's site, eSIM support for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile says "coming later this year," suggesting the three carriers are aiming to launch the feature before the end of 2018.
Article Link: Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile Won't Support eSIM Until Later This Year
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You were ahead of yourself the moment you made a purchase of a product that wasn't/isn't able to do what you expected out of the box. Apple never mis-stepped this at all. They have advertised "later this year" right from the keynote. It is still this year and it isn't "later" yet. You should have waited until support for your carrier(s) was announced as being available before jumping in if it was so critical to you.
Does the blue eSIM card have the QR code?
[doublepost=1541037078][/doublepost]Where do you get your info? Should prob check your sources? I was able to walk into an AT&T store today and get a second line and a blue eSIM card without an issue on prepaid. Works like a charm including the visual voicemail.
So I went to 3 stores today, 2 told me esim doesn't exist in US and 1 said they aren't allowed to sell it, the one that told me can't sell it was an authorized reseller.
I honestly can't deal with total clowns, however I then spoke to tier 3 tech support (whatever that means), but he said an update is coming on the 17th and esim will be live then.
He seemed to know what's going on, but a Saturday launch seems unlikely to me. He was saying reason why its delayed is because VVM, data drop outs, call drops.
I honestly can't deal with total clowns, however I then spoke to tier 3 tech support (whatever that means), but he said an update is coming on the 17th and esim will be live then.
He seemed to know what's going on, but a Saturday launch seems unlikely to me. He was saying reason why its delayed is because VVM, data drop outs, call drops.
When I talked to AT&T tier 3 tech support, they told me it would be available well before the end of November.