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Verizon CEO: We Expected iPhone 5 in Early Summer, Now Planning For Fall
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LTE doesn't drain the battery. The HTC thunderbolt in general drains the battery. The droid charge can last all day with LTE on. THe TBOLT is a huge disappointment for me battery wise...but for tethering its amazing (plus minus the battery the phone is amazing)
unless the current agreement covers it they will need to sign a contract specifying the subsidy terms, features, etc. the legal people and finance will have to go over it and run the numbers through their financial modeling software.
even during testing he'll have to know the state of the critical issues, non-critical, etc. he must have some idea when the phone is going to be released
Not from what I've read... battery life seems to be an issue on many of the 4G Android based phones. The Thunderbolt just seems to be the worst.
Glad to hear you live in a 4G area... not here yet.
BTW... the other poster is right about the Droid Charge... it seems to do very well with battery life in 3G or 4G mode.... so maybe it's not the 4G but just the others are poorly built phones????? Don't know?
1. Fewer apps - you probably don't have 200 million apps on your phone, am I correct? Every single app I own on iPhone is on android and just as good in quality.
2. Poor battery on SOME phones, not all. The TBOLT is horrible, but the charge is actually very good.
3. Retina is great, but go check out the super amoled plus displays.
4. Abandoned - not really. 3 year old android phones were updated to gingerbread. Thats the latest and greatest OS for phones... Some manufacturers are bad, but then again you wouldn't buy a phone from them right?
5. Fragmentation - solved by rooting your phone and a custom rom, but yes, I agree here.
6. Google has its own cloud. Apple just put a spiffy name on something that already exists.
7. Malware apps only appeared when you side loaded apps from OUTSIDE the market - which you can't even do on Apple without jailbreak... In this case you run the EXACT same risk.
8. Google Music
9. Not yet, but this is a phone discussion. No tablet compliments your phone, they compliment your computer.
10. Settings are saved at google so if you need to restore, all your settings return. Also, all of the apps you HAD on your phone will restore back to your phone. Individual app preferences and data will not.. which yes is good for the iPhone if thats what you really want it to do.
11. Most of it (all but 2) are on android. I think you should check out the Galaxy SII when it comes out in the US (or if its out where you live).
There are currently 3 LTE phones. TBolt has horrible battery - I own it. The droid charge my coworker uses - battery is fantastic. The LG one I never saw.
Not everyone reads Macrumors. Ask a regular joe schmoe iphone owner what Macrumors is and they'll give you a weird look.
Draconian data caps have destroyed any interest I have in any of the new '4G' technologies.
and unless AT&T does something drastic happens with my grandfathered unlimited plan I will never switch to Verizon who has proven they can beat AT&T in the petty charge-decrease in service department.
and unless AT&T does something drastic happens with my grandfathered unlimited plan I will never switch to Verizon who has proven they can beat AT&T in the petty charge-decrease in service department.
What tide?
I am all Apple but just worried about below:
activating 550,000 Android smartphones per day
there are 135 million Android devices activated in total around the world, up from 100 million two months ago.
Read more: Google activating 550,000 Android phones per day - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...0-android-phones-day/2011-07-14#ixzz1SraxLoTb
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Nuts
How crazy is it this?!
The head of Verizon doesn't know what's up?! Don't they actually talk to Apple?! How hard would it be for you to ask your business partner about future plans? Apple can be secretive but I'm sure with the power that a carrier has, they'd have to give Verizon (or AT&T) some sort of answer. This guy uses the word "assume" and sounds like an idiot. As the head of a huge telecom company you better do more than "assume."
How crazy is it this?!
The head of Verizon doesn't know what's up?! Don't they actually talk to Apple?! How hard would it be for you to ask your business partner about future plans? Apple can be secretive but I'm sure with the power that a carrier has, they'd have to give Verizon (or AT&T) some sort of answer. This guy uses the word "assume" and sounds like an idiot. As the head of a huge telecom company you better do more than "assume."
Instead of capping data, they should concentrate on building out their infrastructure. Cheap bastards. Seriously, it's the trend for providers to throttle bandwidth and it's going to be the bottle-neck on future development of content providers. If people have to pay for content, then pay a premium to get that content to their devices, it's going to cripple innovation.
Its too bad the iPhone 5 won't have LTE
I had Verizon's 4G LTE internet access service for a while. It was OK fast, but nowhere near as fast as the FIOS service I have now.
The most important point: the service was so unreliable and buggy I dumped it for Fios. I know that I am talking about internet access, not phone data service - but if this is an example of Verizon's LTE system, I would careful about what you wish for.
Worry not
Firstly, those numbers are fishy. ("Activations?" Tell me more. And does that include those Asian Android variants that don’t even run Android Apps or use Google services? A couple of those are big movers.) But more importantly, the facts are bright for iOS:* Apple is the biggest smartphone maker by volume.
* Apple is the biggest by profit.
* Apple is the biggest by market cap, and has a huge cushion to spend if they have something that needs solving.
* Apple has the biggest mindshare, and by far the highest customer satisfaction ratings. People who try both platforms strongly trend toward preferring iOS.
* Apple is the one in control of their own destiny: hardware and software developed in unison.
* Apple has the best phone with the best OS. (Disagreement is legitimate, but this is an easy case to make!)
* Apple has the most developers, making the most money, in the most countries, delivering the most apps.
* Apple has the iPad and iPod Touch too—major iOS momentum that Android shows no signs of.
* iOS has the largest user base, and the largest share of app and web usage.
* iPhone and iPad both have record sales, and steadily climbing. Even before the new iPhone comes.
So worry for those people who may miss out on the iPhone because they think Android is “just as good.” But don’t worry for Apple, nor for Apple’s users.
Those Android activations do nothing to threaten the great iOS experience, nor its rapid ongoing improvement. All we as users have to care about are a) is the user base there to keep developers happy, and b) is the profit there to keep new devices, OS updates, and apps coming? Big “yes” to all of the above.
Remember, Apple’s business model is to make OUR experience as good as possible. WE are the customer. Google’s business model is to sell our time (reading/clicking ads) and our personal info (aggregated for our protection, and making the ad-views worth much more). We are NOT Google’s customer, we are the product being sold. Really: look where Google’s profits come from. That’s OK—it’s how I watch TV every night! But it does matter that the money is NOT coming from the satisfaction of Android users, the way Apple’s money comes from the satisfaction of iOS users.
Neither model will go away. There’s room for both.
Exactly!!! Finally somebody noticed! Let it rain profits as their technology ages, but when their archaic network needs an update, transfer entire cost onto consumers to maintain their profit margin... it's called poor financial planning and EVERY CORPORATION does this...
Because there is NO COMPETITION!